What Do The Steelers Really Bring....

[rlh445]

All media pundits aside..I would love to hear from some Ravens (and RESPECTFUL) Steeler fans on the subject. What do the Steelers bring that we should worry about the most? I agree that Whines Hard (I know, ) always seems to eat us up late in the game..it's like he's quiet for three quarters and then somehow makes four catches in a row. Everyone keep saying the key is to bring down Ben, but damnit, he's a hard ****** to bring down, and when he gets away from the pressure or a near sack, he always seems to find an open man. In my opinion, Ben is the one thing that may kill us on Sunday.

[K-Dog]

the foundation for my fear this weekend is injuries.

At the rate we are going we are going to have the Hot Dog vendor and Parking attendant dressing this weekend.

[Canes21]

its their defense thats their main weapon. if your defense keeps the opposing team from scoring alot of points you can win any game. turnovers and field position go a long way to helping your offense. if we put up 21 points we will win.

[rlh445]

[quote name='K-Dog' post='134432' date='Jan 16 2009, 07:51 PM']the foundation for my fear this weekend is injuries.

At the rate we are going we are going to have the Hot Dog vendor and Parking attendant dressing this weekend.[/quote]


Meh, we're injured. We've been injured all season. We didn't have Rolle for quite a few games, and we still found a way to win. If he can't go, we'll fill it in. If Sizzle can't go, we'll fill it in. It's what this team has done all season long. While the injuries may take it's toll in the game, I don't think that's what is going to lose it for us.

[NapaSteelerFan]

Honestly the key is Willie Parker. The Steelers dont need him to gain 100 yards, cause he aint doing that. But if he can gain POSITIVE yards that will be the difference because will be facing 3rd and shorts and Ben converts them with good hands guys like Ward and Miller. I dont want to see Willie being hit on our side of the line of scrimmage.

just my $.02

[rlh445]

[quote name='NapaSteelerFan' post='134436' date='Jan 16 2009, 07:53 PM']Honestly the key is Willie Parker. The Steelers dont need him to gain 100 yards, cause he aint doing that. But if he can gain POSITIVE yards that will be the difference because will be facing 3rd and shorts and Ben converts them with good hands guys like Ward and Miller. I dont want to see Willie being hit on our side of the line of scrimmage.

just my $.02[/quote]


Great point..I don't think Parker will have a stand out game..but I guess he doesn't really have to. Well said.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='Canes21' post='134434' date='Jan 16 2009, 07:52 PM']if we put up 21 points we will win[/quote]

in our first matchup we put up 23 points......so how can you be that confident with 21 points

[RavensIQ]

The Refs in their pocket. That's the only thing the Steelers bring to this game that the Ravens can't handle. Well they can...they'll just get flagged for doing it.

[rlh445]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='134440' date='Jan 16 2009, 07:54 PM']The Refs in their pocket. That's the only thing the Steelers bring to this game that the Ravens can't handle. Well they can...they'll just get flagged for doing it.[/quote]


LOL, IQ, I love you. Maybe not so much the refs, but the gigantic horseshoe the Steelers seem to be carrying with them every game, that positively effects the way the refs handle the game.

[Canes21]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='134439' date='Jan 16 2009, 07:54 PM']in our first matchup we put up 23 points......so how can you be that confident with 21 points[/quote]


i know i just don't think it will be that high scoring. if the steelers put up 21 theyll probly win too.

[rlh445]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='134439' date='Jan 16 2009, 07:54 PM']in our first matchup we put up 23 points......so how can you be that confident with 21 points[/quote]


HEY! Don't you go and bring logic into this thread, mister. Good point. I'll be confident if the Ravens score twenty one points, if only because that means our offense (or defense) is doing its job.

[mjccia]

I don't know if i can find them or if they are officially kept. But 3 and outs. The Ravens I know has to be one of the league leaders as I am sure the Steelers are as well. Our defense seems to sputter when our offense goes 3 and out. If the Ravens offense can put together at least 6 to 10 play drives and eliminate The Steelers D from forcing 3 and outs we will do just fine.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='mjccia' post='134446' date='Jan 16 2009, 07:59 PM']I don't know if i can find them or if they are officially kept. But 3 and outs. The Ravens I know has to be one of the league leaders as I am sure the Steelers are as well. Our defense seems to sputter when our offense goes 3 and out. If the Ravens offense can put together at least 6 to 10 play drives and eliminate The Steelers D from forcing 3 and outs we will do just fine.[/quote]

you guys have to throw better on first down.........you give flacco too many 3rd and longs

steelers dont allow alot of third and long conversions

[blackngolddigger]

Ben is going to be a big key. He'll either kill you or kill us. That's just how he plays sometimes.

Remember the game a couple years ago where he had 5 TD's in the first half. That was one of those games where he should have been sacked more than he was and turned bad plays into great plays(from a Steeler perspective ).

If Ben doesn't turn the ball over, I feel we have the slight edge as the healthier, fresher team.

It's two evenly matched teams, neither of which brings anything to the table that the other can't handle.

Both teams have a ton of heart and are extremely physical on both sides of the ball.

[Chi_Town_Raven]

Trips will kill us.

[K-Dog]

[quote name='Canes21' post='134443' date='Jan 16 2009, 07:56 PM']i know i just don't think it will be that high scoring. if the steelers put up 21 theyll probly win too.[/quote]


I like that idea

First team to 21 wins !!!!!

[5 and Counting]

I don't know if I'd say "can't handle". However, I think the key thing the Steelers bring is their ability to shut down the run and confuse young QBs. If they can force Flacco to beat them by shutting down the running game, and then confuse him with complex blitz packages, that will be a key to keeping them out of the end zone. That's pretty much the formula they used the previous two games. I hope Flacco hasn't solved Lebeau's defense yet. And hopefully Lebeau will throw in a few wrinkles in that Flacco hasn't seen before.

[rlh445]

[quote name='5 and Counting' post='134466' date='Jan 16 2009, 08:15 PM']I don't know if I'd say "can't handle". However, I think the key thing the Steelers bring is their ability to shut down the run and confuse young QBs. If they can force Flacco to beat them by shutting down the running game, and then confuse him with complex blitz packages, that will be a key to keeping them out of the end zone. That's pretty much the formula they used the previous two games. I hope Flacco hasn't solved Lebeau's defense yet. And hopefully Lebeau will throw in a few wrinkles in that Flacco hasn't seen before.[/quote]


Meh, I consider this point a wash, since the Ravens D does the same thing, . If they want to force Flacco to beat them, he will, because he's done it before. Just ask the Titans. By the same token, Ben has shown that he will do the same thing if defenses want to 'force him to beat them'. That's why I say it's a wash. I know it's Flacco's first time in the AFC Championship, but if the Steelers try and focus in on letting Flacco throw the ball around, they're going to be in a rude awakening....which is one of things I'm scared about when it comes to Roethlisburger.

[Revolution]

They have a great defense and a QB that has won a Superbowl. That is all you need to win against anyone.

Their weakness is their offensive line. If their offensive line plays well we can't win. I don't see it happening though. I am very confident we will force some QB fumbles and picks. I see us getting another 4 turnovers in this game.

It is just very hard to beat good defensive teams with such a bad offensive line, especially in the playoffs.

[shaikh015]

[quote name='Revolution' post='134480' date='Jan 16 2009, 09:25 PM']They have a great defense and a QB that has won a Superbowl. That is all you need to win against anyone.

Their weakness is their offensive line. If their offensive line plays well we can't win. I don't see it happening though. I am very confident we will force some QB fumbles and picks. I see us getting another 4 turnovers in this game.

It is just very hard to beat good defensive teams with such a bad offensive line, especially in the playoffs.[/quote]
I'm confident that our O-line is better then theirs....statistic show our ballhawking capabilities is better then theirs...

[rlh445]

[quote name='Revolution' post='134480' date='Jan 16 2009, 08:25 PM']They have a great defense and a QB that has won a Superbowl. That is all you need to win against anyone.

Their weakness is their offensive line. If their offensive line plays well we can't win. I don't see it happening though. I am very confident we will force some QB fumbles and picks. I see us getting another 4 turnovers in this game.

It is just very hard to beat good defensive teams with such a bad offensive line, especially in the playoffs.[/quote]

As to your first sentence, I concur. As to you getting four turnovers through quarterback fumbles and picks..? Good luck with that analysis, seeing as how there have been absolutely no turnovers or picks for our side for two playoff games. Thanks for your input, though!

[rlh445]

[quote name='jeff-the_painter' post='134511' date='Jan 16 2009, 08:51 PM']The Steelers bring Dick Labeau.
I think he's got some stuff up his sleeve that will make Joe Flacco look like the rookie he is.[/quote]


I probably shouldn't reply to your troll post, but I will anyway because I'm bored. One, Flacco's not a rookie. Your own coach Tomlin has admitted as much. Two, Dick LaBeau isn't exactly Rex Ryan. Just sayin', sir.

P.S., I apologize for the double post.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='rlh445' post='134513' date='Jan 16 2009, 08:55 PM']As to your first sentence, I concur. As to you getting four turnovers through quarterback fumbles and picks..? Good luck with that analysis, seeing as how there have been absolutely no turnovers or picks for our side for two playoff games. Thanks for your input, though![/quote]

hes a ravens fan........i think he was talking about us turning it over

[rlh445]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='134516' date='Jan 16 2009, 08:56 PM']hes a ravens fan........i think he was talking about us turning it over[/quote]


Is he? I just saw the avatar, saw some yellow, and posted. Perhaps I should have paid more attention. Maybe we can save that post for an actual Steelers fan who says the same thing, ? Thank you Prophet.

Ha, after reading the post again, I feel like a lummox. I should have realized it sooner. Geez..talk about going off too early. I apologize whole heartedly.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='rlh445' post='134515' date='Jan 16 2009, 08:56 PM']I probably shouldn't reply to your troll post, but I will anyway because I'm bored. One, Flacco's not a rookie. Your own coach Tomlin has admitted as much. Two, Dick LaBeau isn't exactly Rex Ryan. Just sayin', sir.

P.S., I apologize for the double post.[/quote]

ok........rex ryan is good.........but he is not better than dick.....hes the master of defense

[Ravens_fan]

Steelers bring some great pressure on opposing QB's They lead the league in sacks, or were really close. They make receivers pay when the catch the ball over the middle. Ben also has pretty good pocket presence and is elusive.

To counter that, our O-line has been improving all season. Our guys are being safe with the ball when being hit, example Heaps ability to hold onto the catch on the 3rd and 2 where his helmet gets knocked off. I think our problem with getting Ben down this year, has been they guys have been a bit overly aggressive, trying to tee-off and ending up in the dirt.

[rlh445]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='134519' date='Jan 16 2009, 08:58 PM']ok........rex ryan is good.........but he is not better than dick.....hes the master of defense[/quote]


Mmm, perhaps. I suppose it's all a matter of objectivity. To be honest, I am not the most accurate afficianado when it comes to different defensive and offensive coordinators around the league. But, you do hear their names often when they are looking to branch outside of their respective organizations and become head coaches. The first time I heard of LaBeau..he was fired from Cinci. Not exactly the greatest of accolades. But, upon finding his Wiki page, I see that he has been attributed to quite a few defensive packages. So you may have me there. Meh..perhaps it's the purple glasses, but I see the Ravens doing more with a little bit less, due to injuries.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='rlh445' post='134526' date='Jan 16 2009, 09:04 PM']Mmm, perhaps. I suppose it's all a matter of objectivity. To be honest, I am not the most accurate afficianado when it comes to different defensive and offensive coordinators around the league. But, you do hear their names often when they are looking to branch outside of their respective organizations and become head coaches. The first time I heard of LaBeau..he was fired from Cinci. Not exactly the greatest of accolades. But, upon finding his Wiki page, I see that he has been attributed to quite a few defensive packages. So you may have me there. Meh..perhaps it's the purple glasses, but I see the Ravens doing more with a little bit less, due to injuries.[/quote]

i can see where you were coming from but some of the best coaches have been fired from one team or another lol

[rlh445]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='134534' date='Jan 16 2009, 09:09 PM']i can see where you were coming from but some of the best coaches have been fired from one team or another lol[/quote]


Heh, I hear you. Everyone gets fired at some point in time, whether it's all on them or not. Either way, I'm not sure if I would attribute either Dick or Rex's game plan this week as much as the players' performances.

[LamarWoodley]

Biggest thing in my opinion is our receivers vs. your corners.....it seems whenever we can get one of our receivers in one on one coverage with one of your corners it usally turns into a big play. Nate Washington usally has couple big catches on you guys usally when in one on one with one of your corners.