[News] Ravens About To See What Their Young Pass Rushers Can Do

[BR News]

With Terrell Suggs (biceps) and Elvis Dumervil (foot) both not expected to play Sunday in New York, the Ravens will rely on Za’Darius Smith, Matthew Judon and Kamalei Correa to pick up the slack.

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[b93333]

Not much chance this year of making the play-offs this year with all the injuries, but it will be a big help going forward to see what we have in these three. It seems that both Suggs and Doom are near the end of their fine careers and next year's draft will need to reflect this void.

[Crusader]

Injuries would not be an big issues if the coach would stop being "aggressive" with a team that's not that good. Ray's NOT HEAR stop thinking your that good John.

[Crusader]

I be honest. I don't trust the "judgment of talent" from these coaches. It has a lot to be desired.

[ThatssoRaven1990]

probably not much, but the reps for them will be great for development

[Purple Dawg 96]

I like this Ravens Defense it's the Offense that leaves them hanging time and time again! Three game winning drives and the Offense came up "SHOTE"! Missed a 1st down against the raiders and a wide open Mike Wallace against the giants smh if anything the Ravens should be 5-1!!!!!

[Nick04263]

I think we are all ready to see what we actually have here. Let the young guys loose. Get the coach to ride them on the sideline when they make mental mistakes. Have Suggs out there jumping up and down on the sideline.

[ravens4life86]

Going to be drafting pass rusher next year. Theres no gamechanger in this group maybe Judon can be good but wheres the next Sizzle,Von Miller etc

Start drafting highest talent, stop drafting character low ceiling players. Noah Spence, Yannik Nkwakwe DE/OLBr UMD Terp I believe went 3rd round Jags hes got 4-5 sacks already

With Harbaughs influence Ravens are passing on superior talent for Yes Men, character guys.
Result poor product

[JayCitie]

I like this Ravens Defense it's the Offense that leaves them hanging time and time again! Three game winning drives and the Offense came up "SHOTE"! Missed a 1st down against the raiders and a wide open Mike Wallace against the giants smh if anything the Ravens should be 5-1!!!!!

If you remember correctly they came back against Oakland and Giants to take the lead, just for the Defense to give it right back the very next series. So the Defense was to partially blame in those games.

[Crusader]

I'm thinking these guys might be better than their thinking. John said J Butler should be on the team but now Ravens are playing against him Sunday.

[Wildwest Raven]

Yeah, release the Krakens!!...I want to see what they can do. It can't be any worse right?.

[eze17]

I be honest. I don't trust the "judgment of talent" from these coaches. It has a lot to be desired.

Yeah, we know if you were drafting players they'd all be pro bowlers and future hall of famers...and which coaches are you talking about? All of these players would have been picked by an NFL team, we just got them first. I think i'll wait and give them a chance to play before I decide on what their talent level is. Always good to actually give someone an opportunity before rushing to judgement. But like I said, you would only draft guys who are superstars that never get injured, so I respect your opinion.

[Dylan Griffith]

The pass rush is all they have considering the entire line backing core. Dumervil Suggs and Mosley are just too slow and can not keep up with modern offences.

[JD08]

Excited to see what the young guys can do

[SCravenfan]

I think Smith will be a solid LB for us and will only grow as a pass rusher. I think Judon will be a stud. He is a Rookie but is flashing talent. Little more experience playing against the best talent and we will see him grow into a force. He dominated lesser talent in the NCAA and has to learn the small details

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

It's time to show everyone what you got... Go out and play like Ravens.

[TheConquerorWorm]

Need to see if these young guys are legit NFL material. Judon has been hyped but he played half the defensive snaps last week against a weak Giants O-line and did squat (almost invisible). Gotta step it up young fella....

[craymonham]

We should've been turned these guys loose. What's wrong with the ravens front office....are we on something????

[craymonham]

Flacco is holding this team back with his awful decision making. I promise you if he releases the ball quicker he'll easily avoid a lot of hits and sacks. Brady line was awful last year but he released the ball that much quicker.

[FloridalovesRavens]

Injuries would not be an big issues if the coach would stop being "aggressive" with a team that's not that good. Ray's NOT HEAR stop thinking your that good John.

You mean "here" not hear or was that a play on words. You're not that good I think. The Ravens should just give up is that right? That isn't going to happen. Stop complaining.

[Minionhunter]

"Last week, Defensive Coordinator Dean Pees said, “we tried to teach him maybe too many positions and too much.”"

Guess Dean Pees didn't learn his lesson with Elam and everyone else he did that too as well. "Now Correa is honing in on just one position, and Pees said he saw “big improvement” in him." Just like Elam, but maybe the damage was halted early enough with KC for him to recover.

[omar586]

it's time for young pass rushers to step it up, especially vs the jets

[sami]

Not much chance this year of making the play-offs this year with all the injuries, but it will be a big help going forward to see what we have in these three. It seems that both Suggs and Doom are near the end of their fine careers and next year's draft will need to reflect this void.

we are one game out of 1st place with 10 more games to go. Glad the players don't give up as fast as you do

[The Greek]

I be honest. I don't trust the "judgment of talent" from these coaches. It has a lot to be desired.

"judgement" mr. non fan

[fusuymada]

My grandfather had an old saying. "Wish in one hand and poop in the other and see which fills up first." I think that says it all about putting in rookies against proven vets and expecting them to produce. After all, we stuck rookie Tavon Young on Odell Beckham and the next thing we know, Beckham is in the endzone making the entire team look like the 3 stooges as Weddle wipes out Young and Webb looked slower than my grandmother trying to react to him as he ran right by him. Someone made the comment that he looked old and slow and thats because he is old and slow.

We need quality players to rebuild and that isn't happening with 3 picks in the 5th round, 3 in the 6th and a couple in the 7th. Those late rounders need to be turned into trades to move up in the first and second round and get quality players. We are a team of late rounders and we wonder why our rookies aren't faring well in the NFL. We are asking division II players, who couldn't make college teams in division I, to come out and be superstars. It has rarely turned out that way.

If we can't replace good players then we need to figure out how we can keep them. We let McPhee walk and we look at our pass rush, it is non-existant. We let Torrey Smith walk and our wide receivers rank 28th in the league and we let KO and Monroe walk and our offensive line is pathetic. We let high quality players go, replace them with late rounders and expect a miracle to happen. Those days are long gone. This is a different NFL than it was just 5 years ago. This whole sport has been raped of quality by handcuffing the defense so that wide receivers can run up and down the field every week and score 50 points. There will never be another 2000 Ravens because the league has made it so there can't be. We have never been able to draft wide receivers and we don't have an accurate QB so we can't be one of those high scoring teams. Therefore with the NFL rules the way they are and with the way we operate, it looks like the we are going to be bad for awhile.

[Doc]

hope one or two of them have some speed!

[The Greek]

dean pees has not shown me that he can make the adjustments necessary for years now. lets see if he can be creative enough to get these guys to the qb. when smith left the game and obj began to heat up pees froze and nothing was done to slow that man down. aside from suggs lone sack eli went untouched and killed us with over 400 yards through the air. geno will look like a pro bowler if the defense applies no pressure. some of you will say well the defense is ranked #3 well i say lets see where they rank after the brutal 2nd half schedule we have. zero pass rush will catch up to us sooner than later as it slowly has these past 3 games.

[VermontRaven]

Definitely a big chance for these young guys!  I also think it will be interesting to see how the Ravens use Correa.  Does he play ILB (and Mclellan at OLB) or does he play OLB, or does he get some snaps at both?

[Ravenous_Ravens]

"Last week, Defensive Coordinator Dean Pees said, “we tried to teach him maybe too many positions and too much.”"

Guess Dean Pees didn't learn his lesson with Elam and everyone else he did that too as well. "Now Correa is honing in on just one position, and Pees said he saw “big improvement” in him." Just like Elam, but maybe the damage was halted early enough with KC for him to recover.

This really is not Pees decision. When players are drafted it is due to Oz and Eric and their team of scouts projecting a player to be a good fit in (a) certain role(s). Why anyone would think a rookie coming to the pro's can adjust to the pros and learn a new position without missing a beat is beyond me. How about some setting some reasonable expectations for young players. It takes at last a full season to learn a new position to the point where a player can play full speed and not second guess themselves.

More important than pass rush though is the secondary. The evidence is clear when J Smith left the game, the chances of winning the game went out the window as well. Pass rush and secondary work hand in hand. You do not need a sack every play. You do need to pressure the QB almost every pass play. If your not at least getting close to making him uncomfortable it should be considered a fail and go back to the drawing board. My real question is what will Pees do when he faces a team with more than 1 stout WR? Especially if J Smith cannot be on the field?

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Flacco is holding this team back with his awful decision making. I promise you if he releases the ball quicker he'll easily avoid a lot of hits and sacks. Brady line was awful last year but he released the ball that much quicker.

Been mentioning this exact point. Too bad the coaches aren't seeing this same matter or listening. It's called helping your offensive line out and not hanging them to dry. It's not like it requires brain surgery to adjust.

Who knows maybe they want the top 10 pick next spring?..