[News] Late For Work 10/20: Joe Flacco's Injury Not Surprising Behind Banged-Up Line, But Good News Ahead

[Purple Dawg 96]

Mallet needs to start Im sick and tired of hearing it's the O line fault every week! The O line not missing wide open WRs and under and over throwing them as well! The Jets D Line will chew up Joe because he needs the wall of china to be effective! Big ben O line must be bad as ours he hurt! Smh Tyrod running and throwing and his record better than ours! Mobile QBs are the future even brady runs but we got a pocket QB that needs the wall of China! Wow! If Joe starts Sunday I can already here the finger pointing blaming the O line again and again!

[ThatssoRaven1990]

Mallet needs to start Im sick and tired of hearing it's the O line fault every week! The O line not missing wide open WRs and under and over throwing them as well! The Jets D Line will chew up Joe because he needs the wall of china to be effective! Big ben O line must be bad as ours he hurt! Smh Tyrod running and throwing and his record better than ours! Mobile QBs are the future even brady runs but we got a pocket QB that needs the wall of China! Wow! If Joe starts Sunday I can already here the finger pointing blaming the O line again and again!

Joe isn't the problem

[OriolesMagicPlease]

56 minutes ago, araveninwaconc said:

Somebody help me! I am about to turn into a patriot? Help me I am trying to hang on! Never thought this could happen to me thought it only happen to other people? Catch me Iam falling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lmao. Go ahead. I'm sure they would welcome a bandwagoner such as yourself.

[thecommish]

2016 Stanley, Kameli Corea, Kafusi, Chris Moore, W Henry, K Dixon, Judon, Reynolds, Cannaday.. I am worried about our draft class (we have Stanley and A Lewis and even Tavon playing but need to take the next step).

2015 Periman, Maxx, Carl Davis, Nick Boyle Darren Waller,Buck, Z Smith and Robert Myers)... we have some contribution but it is looking like a bust right now. Perriman and Z and hoepfully Waller can step up and take the next step but right now it is looking bad

2014 CJ, Jernigan, Crocket, Urban, Urschel all contributing and at least a couple of them are playing at a high level....would love to see Urban and Urschel (even Campanaro) take the next step

2013 Elam, Arthur Borwn, Brandon Williams, John Simon, Juice , Wagner, KLM, Jensen, Mallette, andMarc Anthony. Elam and Arthur brown looks like busts... Brandon Williams was a steal in round three- Simon looks great in Houston, Wagner was a steal as a 5th rounder, and Jensen has at least been a quality back up

Over the past 5 years we have landed 4 Quality starters- Wagner, Brandon Williams, CJ, Timmy, and Ronnie Stanley

a handful of role players Juice, Crocket,Henry, Urban, Alex lewis, Tavon and Urschel

and some quality back ups
Maxx, Dixon, Carl Davis, Jensen etc.

IDK we really seemed to miss on 2 of the last 4 draft classes. Hope some of these guys step up and prove us wrong but so far.... it is not looking good!

[ThatssoRaven1990]

Somebody help me! I am about to turn into a patriot? Help me I am trying to hang on! Never thought this could happen to me thought it only happen to other people? Catch me Iam falling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

c-ya! go be a band wagon somewhere else

[bioLarzen]

The moral of ther week: if you have a 120-mil QB, but try to guard him with an O-line so shallow in depth that one or two injuries happen and it ceases to be an O-line, is like buying the newest Ferrari and then parking it on the street in a bad neighborhood...

[bioLarzen]

Before many more of you bite on the bait: this  araveninwaconc guy has little over 30 posts on this site, almost exclusively negative... I'm not saying he's a troll, because apparently on this site you are not always allowed to call a duck a duck - but he's doing his best to appear like one, that's for sure.

[Crusader]

What the heck is band wagon? Someone smart enough not to watch a train wreak? I just wish Ravens were 1/2 the organization the Patriot are. Never heard them complaining about injuries last year to the O-line.

[Crusader]

The problem I have with the Ravens is there is no one like the old days that would step up and make THAT PLAY to win the game.

[OriolesMagicPlease]

1 minute ago, Crusader said:

What the heck is band wagon? Someone smart enough not to watch a train wreak? I just wish Ravens were 1/2 the organization the Patriot are. Never heard them complaining about injuries last year to the O-line.

A bandwagon fan is one who cheers for a team only when doing well and has no loyalty. A real fan is one who sticks by their team even when they suck.

[OriolesMagicPlease]

And I don't mean that a real fan can't get frustrated or complain.

[OriolesMagicPlease]

5 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Before many more of you bite on the bait: this  araveninwaconc guy has little over 30 posts on this site, almost exclusively negative... I'm not saying he's a troll, because apparently on this site you are not always allowed to call a duck a duck - but he's doing his best to appear like one, that's for sure.

Possibly a troll but a good discussion to have right now anyway.

[robbie29]

  21 minutes ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Mallet needs to start Im sick and tired of hearing it's the O line fault every week! The O line not missing wide open WRs and under and over throwing them as well! The Jets D Line will chew up Joe because he needs the wall of china to be effective! Big ben O line must be bad as ours he hurt! Smh Tyrod running and throwing and his record better than ours! Mobile QBs are the future even brady runs but we got a pocket QB that needs the wall of China! Wow! If Joe starts Sunday I can already here the finger pointing blaming the O line again and again!

Joe isn't the problem

Please stop defending the guy. His lack of production is as big a part of the team's problem as the Ravens' inability to keep players healthy, and their inability to draft playmakers for the last 5 years. Since he signed that $126 million dollar contract, the highest he's finished as a QB is 16th in the league (2014). The other two years, he finished 30th and 32nd, and is again ranked near the bottom this year at 27th. That's terrible. He may not be THE problem, but he is a BIG problem.

[craymonham]

Oh dont let me start on Perriman! I thought we had something in him since his Father was a quality receiver? He sucks! You would think after all that down time he would have taken notes and learned something? He is a joke no hands no get open skills where is the speed? A complete joke he is! First round. I must admit that I am jealous of players like cooper and other rookie wide out who have shown flashes of their abilities. Perriman hasent torched any one or even come close? Man what a waste! 4.4 Haaaaaa Haaaaa We waited all this time for what?

to be honest I like what I see out of perriman, Atleast hes making those hard catches. Prior to that I thought he couldn't catch at all!

[Minionhunter]

Mallet needs to start Im sick and tired of hearing it's the O line fault every week! The O line not missing wide open WRs and under and over throwing them as well! The Jets D Line will chew up Joe because he needs the wall of china to be effective! Big ben O line must be bad as ours he hurt! Smh Tyrod running and throwing and his record better than ours! Mobile QBs are the future even brady runs but we got a pocket QB that needs the wall of China! Wow! If Joe starts Sunday I can already here the finger pointing blaming the O line again and again!

Ummm.... Brady doesn't run. There is even a quote from Belichick saying "he [Brady] can't run". The is also a quote from Belichick where he is talking about Joe and said that "he is deceptively athletic, once every game he will run for 10-20 yards on you without you realizing it."

Joe is more mobile than Mallet. Ryan won't do much with the O-line the way it is either, plus the preseason indicates he will consistently toss picks.

Even the anti-Raven commenters realize the Ravens O-line is terrible right now, I'm not sure why you can't seem to understand that.

I'm in favor of starting Mallet if Joe can't perform well due to the injury and giving him two weeks of rest (Bye week next week too) will help him recover to his old self.

[Halshayeji]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

They shouldn't be telling the fans anything about injuries. They have no impact on whether players play or not, and it doesn't benefit the team at all to tell us anything.

I hate it when the coaching staff gives no timeline or sais week to week. Sure maybe it's to keep the opposing team off guard but often times the pressure just shifts to the players when in reality they shouldn't even be on this field.

lets use Doomerville as an example. Harbs keeps making it seem like he's ready but really he's not. And all the fans are now pushing for doom to play and some even go as fast as to question his motor.

[JD08]

Jimmy is really underrated, he doesn't get beat much, it's the other side that's the problem...I don't get why coaches don't put more coverage on that side knowing it's weaker

[craymonham]

Hello everyone? I have been a Baltimore fan since the Colts! When the Ravens came to town I was soooo ecstatic! Winning two Superbowls great. However, what I don't understand is why so many problems now? The Patriots always seem to step up with or without injuries? This is becoming a real issue with me? If John is such a good coach then the time for him to show is now. His antics and political like speeches aren't cutting it! One excuses after another from him> Iam beginning to suspect it might be time for a head coach change? I look at New England year after year moving winning playoffs. With average players? Football has gotten weak nothing like the years past. This is a sport for Pre- Madonnas? Com on guys lets play ball. Ravens I realize that there are good years and there are bad years but damn it has to end sometimes! Joe you got all that money? And now you suck? it could be blamed on lots of things but there was a time when we got the ball last and needed to score touchdown or field goal we were sure to win. So the superbowl run was a fluke? Joe you throw like some damn rookie who dosent have a clue you have regressed! Now we look like the damn Jaguars? SSS comes back for this? Oh wow what memories he will have, It is not fun watching footbal when you are use to winning and your team is a complete joke and totally disrespected. However, the sports writers claimed the Ravens were crap even when they were 3-0? There was a time when we relished the moment to prove them wrong! We are just out there taking up space, no energy or hype? Thanks for the years Ray and Reed It is times like these that helps me understand just how good you guys were! Thanks for those precious memories because now we are a joke and the NFL writers love burying us deep.

I've been a raven fan since day one and everywhere ive lived Baltimore gets no respect! No matter what we go through ill forever be a ravens fan, Times like this are difficult but its all part of the journey.

[craymonham]

Personally, I think the problem with the Ravens occurs during the offseason and not during the time they are actually playing. We knew when we moved Webb to safety he was too slow to play in the secondary anymore but we ignored the facts and moved him there anyway. He was too slow to even react to Beckham as he flew by him even though he caught the pass 15 yards in front of him. We knew Shareece Wright isnt a starting NFL cornerback but yet we ignored it and stuck him out there. After being shocked the first week, he is what we knew he was. Drafting a rookie at left tackle and then turning around and dismissing your backup. We knew when we let Monroe go that our backup was Hurst and yet we did it anyway because Harbaugh didn't like his stance on things that have nothing to do with football. We knew SSS, Suggs, Yanda, etc... were long in the teeth, but we still put the load on them to carry the team and now we are short players because we are relying too much on old players. We could have had Ramsey which would have shored up our secondary and since Stanley has missed half his games and Kaufusi hasn't even played in one, we should have known. Once again, we have 2nd and 3rd round draft picks that just aren't producing. You should be able to plan on starting your first and second rounders and outside of Jernigan, I can't think of a second rounder that has amounted to anything in recent drafts.

I am sure if they polled the front office people like they have in the past, the Ravens FO which usually ranks in the top 2 or 3 would be a lot lower considering the results of the last 5 years of off season activity.

Ya know what harbaugh seems like he is taking the job personally instead of a win first approach.

[ThatssoRaven1990]

  56 minutes ago, ThatssoRaven1990 said:

  1 hour ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Mallet needs to start Im sick and tired of hearing it's the O line fault every week! The O line not missing wide open WRs and under and over throwing them as well! The Jets D Line will chew up Joe because he needs the wall of china to be effective! Big ben O line must be bad as ours he hurt! Smh Tyrod running and throwing and his record better than ours! Mobile QBs are the future even brady runs but we got a pocket QB that needs the wall of China! Wow! If Joe starts Sunday I can already here the finger pointing blaming the O line again and again!

Joe isn't the problem

Please stop defending the guy. His lack of production is as big a part of the team's problem as the Ravens' inability to keep players healthy, and their inability to draft playmakers for the last 5 years. Since he signed that $126 million dollar contract, the highest he's finished as a QB is 16th in the league (2014). The other two years, he finished 30th and 32nd, and is again ranked near the bottom this year at 27th. That's terrible. He may not be THE problem, but he is a BIG problem.

I think it is arrogant to pin the majority on him when it's a collection of issues attributing to his poor performance. Oline, dropped passes, Game plan for example.

[OUravensfan]

1 hour ago, araveninwaconc said:

# 10 sucks too every pass thrown to him he has dropped but they say he can stretch the field are you serious fellas comon! He cant even stretch his arms to catch the ball. And why is Wallace going cross the middle? Something are just hard to understand for the ravens

I agree, Chris Moore has been disappointing so far dropping a TD and game winning FG setup for us. Drops and bad O line play, nothing new for Joe Flacco

[OUravensfan]

41 minutes ago, robbie29 said:

Please stop defending the guy. His lack of production is as big a part of the team's problem as the Ravens' inability to keep players healthy, and their inability to draft playmakers for the last 5 years. Since he signed that $126 million dollar contract, the highest he's finished as a QB is 16th in the league (2014). The other two years, he finished 30th and 32nd, and is again ranked near the bottom this year at 27th. That's terrible. He may not be THE problem, but he is a BIG problem.

Only looking at QB rating in your assessment of all QBs is also a problem, I'm not sure you understand how deceptive that or any stand alone statistic can truly be. According to you, Dalton is a better QB and we'd be a better team those years with Dalton, and I'd say we'd be worse.

Edited October 20, 2016 by OUravensfan

[FloridalovesRavens]

  1 hour ago, ThatssoRaven1990 said:

  1 hour ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Mallet needs to start Im sick and tired of hearing it's the O line fault every week! The O line not missing wide open WRs and under and over throwing them as well! The Jets D Line will chew up Joe because he needs the wall of china to be effective! Big ben O line must be bad as ours he hurt! Smh Tyrod running and throwing and his record better than ours! Mobile QBs are the future even brady runs but we got a pocket QB that needs the wall of China! Wow! If Joe starts Sunday I can already here the finger pointing blaming the O line again and again!

Joe isn't the problem

Please stop defending the guy. His lack of production is as big a part of the team's problem as the Ravens' inability to keep players healthy, and their inability to draft playmakers for the last 5 years. Since he signed that $126 million dollar contract, the highest he's finished as a QB is 16th in the league (2014). The other two years, he finished 30th and 32nd, and is again ranked near the bottom this year at 27th. That's terrible. He may not be THE problem, but he is a BIG problem.

Please stop attacking the guy. He is doing the best he can with the amount of injuries to our offense. Also coming off a bad injury doesn't help. He is getting his brains beat out Sunday after Sunday. Give it a rest and get behind the team and stop griping.

[FloridalovesRavens]

What the heck is band wagon? Someone smart enough not to watch a train wreak? I just wish Ravens were 1/2 the organization the Patriot are. Never heard them complaining about injuries last year to the O-line.

Go watch the cheaters if you want.

[rmcjacket23]

30 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

I hate it when the coaching staff gives no timeline or sais week to week. Sure maybe it's to keep the opposing team off guard but often times the pressure just shifts to the players when in reality they shouldn't even be on this field.

lets use Doomerville as an example. Harbs keeps making it seem like he's ready but really he's not. And all the fans are now pushing for doom to play and some even go as fast as to question his motor.

1. John hasn't said anything about Dumervil recently that suggests he's ready to play anytime soon and he hasn't practiced in quite awhile. When he's back on the practice field, that's when fans can start to predict when he will be back. Guys generally don't play when they don't practice, especially when they missed the prior week.

2. Who's putting pressure on the players to play? The fans? That's not pressure... that's just fanboard guys wanting their guys to play. Fans are kept in the dark about a lot of things, and rightfully so. This should be one of them in my judgment.

Fans that are questioning whether Dumervil should be out there or not are just ignorant. The information telling you that he's not available anytime soon can be widely found in various areas. They're just too lazy to go look for it.

[The Greek]

What the heck is band wagon? Someone smart enough not to watch a train wreak? I just wish Ravens were 1/2 the organization the Patriot are. Never heard them complaining about injuries last year to the O-line.

what is a wreak?

[The Greek]

2016 Stanley, Kameli Corea, Kafusi, Chris Moore, W Henry, K Dixon, Judon, Reynolds, Cannaday.. I am worried about our draft class (we have Stanley and A Lewis and even Tavon playing but need to take the next step).

2015 Periman, Maxx, Carl Davis, Nick Boyle Darren Waller,Buck, Z Smith and Robert Myers)... we have some contribution but it is looking like a bust right now. Perriman and Z and hoepfully Waller can step up and take the next step but right now it is looking bad

2014 CJ, Jernigan, Crocket, Urban, Urschel all contributing and at least a couple of them are playing at a high level....would love to see Urban and Urschel (even Campanaro) take the next step

2013 Elam, Arthur Borwn, Brandon Williams, John Simon, Juice , Wagner, KLM, Jensen, Mallette, andMarc Anthony. Elam and Arthur brown looks like busts... Brandon Williams was a steal in round three- Simon looks great in Houston, Wagner was a steal as a 5th rounder, and Jensen has at least been a quality back up

Over the past 5 years we have landed 4 Quality starters- Wagner, Brandon Williams, CJ, Timmy, and Ronnie Stanley

a handful of role players Juice, Crocket,Henry, Urban, Alex lewis, Tavon and Urschel

and some quality back ups
Maxx, Dixon, Carl Davis, Jensen etc.

IDK we really seemed to miss on 2 of the last 4 draft classes. Hope some of these guys step up and prove us wrong but so far.... it is not looking good!

it takes 3 years to truly grade a draft class. but i have to agree that the front office and scouting dept must look in the mirror and do a better job. how they have continued to strikeout with receivers is beyond me. perriman deserves a few years to see if he can break the string of bad luck but they have struck out a lot lately. i still believe elam will make an impact and take webbs job hopefully sooner than later because webb and lewis have stunk thus far

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Way to go Pitta. Stay in Flacco's ear until he steps up his game. Banged up or not, if he's out there he better be ballin' out. No more excuse for missing wide open recievers.

[martyknight@yahoo.com]

I said last week, I don't care who beats us as long as it's not Beckhem. And of course that's what happened. This week, if Marshall moves he should draw a large crowd. You know Gino is going to him--let's take that away.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Time to stop bringing up injuries as a reason for not winning. Yes, we all know they contribute, but they are not the reason, even by a long shot.

Harbs, stop talking forever in your press conferences. You go on for so long it feels like your dragging your team through the dirt explaining yourself to the media. Address the point and move on and don't look back. I'm not Pats fan, but Bill at least knows when to not say much or anything. What is to gain by venting to the media? Your team is the audience that needs to your your real thoughts. Again stop talking injuries and don't use them as excuses. Why give so much time to matters you cannot control? You also inadvertently put a lot of extra pressure on injured players when you keep saying there close to being back and well see, day after day after day. Either they are ready to go or they aren't. All this does is work your fans into a frenzy and get your players thinking they gotta do whatever it takes to get back out there and rush things. That has not worked out so well as many injured players come back only to be banged up or re-injured not long after. Plus for the players currently filling in for injured players, what are they to think when your more focused on getting the injured players back rather than working with what you have. Really seems like they are being under valued by these kind of sentiments. I really feel like your spilling way too much in your press conferences, but that's my opinion. Do what you like it's your job to keep.