Any trades brewing?

[Sunday QB]

I see the packers traded for a RB, wonder if they called the Ravens. If the Ravens were in the market for a trade who would you want? And for what price?

[PurpleCity5]

Pass Rushers are rarely available, I don't think we'll be making any trades at the moment. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Trades seldom happen in the nfl. 

 

But something interesting I've been thinking of is that the Jets might be having a fire-sale soon to acquire more picks since they appear to be in full on tank mode. They need pretty much everything except for WRs, Dlinemen, and...well that's it.

 

Doubt anything will come of it for us though. 

[rmcjacket23]

Positions we need? Pass rushers and corners.

Positions that teams practically never trade away good players at? Pass rushers and corners.

Agreeing with most that trades rarely happen, I suppose getting some offensive line depth for a late round pick could be a possibility, depending on how long guys like Stanley and Yanda will be out.

Doubt anything happens, though.

Edited October 18, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[Jacquouille]

A french Raven told me Webb has been horrible against the Giants and he would like us to get a Bethea for example, he believes he would fit righ in here.

[rmw10]

If anything does materialize, expect another Chris Givens or Will Davis type trade where you get someone at the bottom of the depth chart that doesn't have a future with the current team.

[rmw10]

17 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

A french Raven told me Webb has been horrible against the Giants and he would like us to get a Bethea for example, he believes he would fit righ in here.

Nah.  Bethea is more of an in the box type and Weddle is playing that role for us now.

[Sunday QB]

It was just a thought, when I saw that packers trade. I hope to see more of Judon  and KC.

[Dfence4champs2052]

Would love to see an aggressive trade to upgrade our secondary for starters or get a dynamic playmaker. Problem is teams aren't in the business of helping us (or anyone) and those two possibilities are hard to come by.

[Rav'n Maniac]

I, as well, don't expect any trades to happen. Even if there were a willing trade partner, I doubt it would be someone worthwhile that can affect the teams performance in a positive manner. We certainly can't afford a big salaried player because we don't have the cap space for it. IRC per Brian McFarland, I think we're sitting somewhere around 2.4m at present which won't buy much.

[ALPHA]

The way we're playing maybe we should be making moves to secure more draft picks.

[PurpleHorseman]

Don't think it would happen. But if we acquired Kiko Alonso from Miami it would give us a game changer. I know he has his injuries but hopefully it's all behind him now. I think he is one of the most underrated defensive players in the NFL. If you watch him play you don't see much difference in him and Kuechly. I actually think Alonso plays more physical and hits harder.  When Alonso hits somebody he stops. Players very rarely get any yac when Alonso touches him. He has very natural instincts and athleticism.

His injuries are the culprit behind him being underrated. Because he is criminally underrated. It is very surprising he is not mentioned with the best LB's in the NFL. If he were not injured he would neck and neck with Kuechly. If we ever switched to the 4-3 he, Mosley and Orr would be an intimidating group with instincts and athleticism to cover better than any in the NFL as a group. Which in turn would massively help the secondary. Just an idea because he could be acquired for a minimal draft pick because of how underrated he is.

[JoeyFlex5]

trade harbaugh and flacco for chip and kaepernick. 

[Jacquouille]

On 18/10/2016 at 11:21 PM, rmw10 said:

Nah.  Bethea is more of an in the box type and Weddle is playing that role for us now.

Weddle could slide to FS though. That was the plan before Hill screwed up.

[Bandwagon]

36 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Weddle could slide to FS though. That was the plan before Hill screwed up.

Man...How upset I got as soon as we sign Weddle, will hill gets cut cause of his mistake...

Edited October 21, 2016 by Bandwagon

[JoeyFlex5]

8 minutes ago, Bandwagon said:

Man...How upset I got as soon as we sign Weddle, will hill gets cut cause of his mistake...

ehh, will hill was a bonehead on the field as well. he thought he was smarter than he was, he got torched often trying to anticipate the wrong things. had no discipline. it paid off at times but the success rate of his gambling was quite low. i think he would only work out with an elite secondary.

[rmw10]

2 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Weddle could slide to FS though. That was the plan before Hill screwed up.

I wouldn't say that at all.  We signed Weddle knowing Hill screwed up.  Weddle was always targeted as an in the box type.  He can play deep of course, but he's been so valuable diagnosing plays at the LOS.

[trevorsteadman]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

I wouldn't say that at all.  We signed Weddle knowing Hill screwed up.  Weddle was always targeted as an in the box type.  He can play deep of course, but he's been so valuable diagnosing plays at the LOS.

Why can't we just have 11 Steve Smiths on offense and 11 Eric Weddles on defense. 

[Rav'n Maniac]

5 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

trade harbaugh and flacco for chip and kaepernick. 

Nah, that would just make Kaeps' fro swell bigger.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Well, as many have said, these things rarely happen - especially at the positions we need, and for the caliber player that would make it worth while or that would be an obvious upgrade.

I guess I'll bite a little and play the IF game... so, if something like this were to happen in a perfect world, you'd want to look at the teams who are one or more of these things:

• whose season is already over, have no shot at the playoffs 
• dont have roster resembling anything close to a playoff contender 
• have a GM/FO who philosophically wants to build through the draft instead of FA 
• have a logjam at a particular position where a quality player (maybe in a contract year) is stuck getting little or no minutes 
• or have a good, veteran player who likely wont be around to be a part of the rebuild and therefore may want to recoup assets for said player now.

And, for it to make sense on our end I think it'd have to be:

• a player that is an immediate upgrade 
• an established veteran who is a known commodity, or a guy with upside thats worth the risk. Otherwise, in a season like this its too much risk and id rather just keep the asset and draft a guy
• someone with a couple years left on a deal, or the trade price is slow low (cond. 7th type) that its ok for a 1 year rental
• done soon so we actually have a chance to get the player up to speed and contributing while we still have the playoffs in sight. So, next 3 weeks or so.

Browns obviously fit that mold.

• Could Haden be available for the right price? I personally think he's been overrated in his career, particularly a couple years ago when he was regularly considered a top corner, but he is a very good player, fits a need, and is locked up through 2019 i believe. I havent looked at the #'s but i doubt his salary fits into our current cap situation anyways.... so likely not.

If we beat the Jets they're probably cooked, if not already.

• Does a guy like Buster Skrine move the needle at all? Is he even an upgrade?
• Revis would be the piece to poach, who they'd probably be willing to get something for if the price is right since he seems to be declining and they cant compete.... but obviously his cap hit wont work. 

49ers would be a good target. Chips known to move on quickly from guys that dont fit his "culture." Definitely in rebuild mode. But, no one really jumps off the page as a target - younger, high upside guy lacking a role or quality vet on his last/2nd to last contract that wont be part of the future.

• Prob cant afford a guy like Staley, and what do you do with Stanley then?
• Tramaine Brock as CB depth?
• Does a guy like Tank Carradine give you anything as a pass rusher? Had a good rookie year under Jim, but has fallen off the past 2. 3 sacks in his first 9 games, 1 since. 
• Aaron Lynch i like a lot, but hes a piece they probably see as part of the future. 12 sacks through his first 2 years. But, we've seen Chip move talent in the past if they dont "fit." Maybe, but doubtful. 
• Zane Beadles would be great to solidify the interior line, but cap hit, and asking price prob eliminate a guy like him.

Dolphins might fit the mold of the partner.

• I cant remember what Byron Maxwell's remaining contract looks like after the trade; what guarantees the Eagles ate, and what follows him... but i think he can be a good player as long as he's not asked to be the #1 guy. Put him across from Jimmy with Tavon in the slot and you've got something. They might be willing to try and recoup some of what they gave up to get him, but his salary/cap hit is likely prohibitive.

The Chargers may not be giving up yet, but another loss and they could be getting close.

• This is my favorite, and most likely fit so far - Brandon Flowers. Hasnt been playing as well; Verrett and Hayward are obviously the future though Hayward is better in the nickle. But theyve got some other young CBs they like. They may be willing to move him for a 4th/5th type pick. And i dont believe hes owed that much money. 

Colts  are nearing season ending territory.

• They really need to reload their defense, so could be open to the idea of trading Robert Mathis. If we're desperate for pass rush, and either Suggs/Doom are expected to miss significant time - this could be a good pick up. Likely can get him on the cheap, and gives you a great veteran option to provide a spark in a rotational role.

The Saints could fit the bill - but there just isnt much on the roster I like or that would improve us. 

• Jairus Byrd is intriguing as we could use a FS upgrade, a true ball hawk, but Byrd hasnt been that in years. But, a guy that talented maybe just needs a change in scenery, and with Vonn Bell waiting in the wings I imagine the Saints would pounce on the opportunity to move on from Byrd and his bloated salary - and therein lies the problem. Cost. Unless a lot of these guys are willing to restructure or something, it just wont happen.

I know the Panthers are too proud to give up on their season yet, but another 2 losses and they might not have a choice. But, there arent any fits here.

The Bears probably fit the most of the criteria. Season over, building through draft, overhauling personnel, and need to find a QB... so probably looking to deal and get some assets. 

• Tracey Porter isnt getting any younger. Only established quality corner on the team, but is he a part of their future? If not, maybe theyd entertain a trade. Cost might be prohibitive though.

 

So, yea... not a whole lot out there. Most anyone who could actually help us in the present either costs too much or wont be available. There's a couple I would consider, and that might be feasible, but the likelihood is so slim its almost not worth even discussing.

 

 

[Sunday QB]

On ‎10‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 6:16 AM, ALPHA said:

The way we're playing maybe we should be making moves to secure more draft picks.

more draft picks would be good if there were in rounds 1,2 3. I was just asking who we have drafted since 2008 when Ozzie and team drafted Joe, who else has been a standout.

[Sunday QB]

1 hour ago, Sunday QB said:

more draft picks would be good if there were in rounds 1,2 3. I was just asking who we have drafted since 2008 when Ozzie and team drafted Joe, who else has been a standout.

CJ Mosley.

[VermontRaven]

 

1 hour ago, Sunday QB said:

more draft picks would be good if there were in rounds 1,2 3. I was just asking who we have drafted since 2008 when Ozzie and team drafted Joe, who else has been a standout.

Pitta, Jimmy Smith, Torrey Smith, Osemele, Brandon Williams, Wagner, Mosley, Jernigan, Stanley, Tavon Young

Plus, I still have high hopes for Perriman, Correa, Dixon, etc.

[redlobster]

i hope lots of trades happen, they make the nfl more exciting. whens the deadline again?

[JoeyFlex5]

Boldpurpnblack if we could get tank carradine in a trade id be ecstatic. I think he would get used very well in a pees defense.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

13 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Boldpurpnblack if we could get tank carradine in a trade id be ecstatic. I think he would get used very well in a pees defense.

Yea, I'd take Tank, Flowers and/or Mathis.

I think of all that i listed, those 3 could work under our limited cap, wouldnt cost much in terms of trade value, and give us something immediately. Now, whether or not any of those teams parts with them is a question...

Tank especially considering he's only going into his 3rd year, but with having drafted the Oregon boys the past 2 years, he may just not have a spot on that team.

[jazz1988]

38 minutes ago, redlobster said:

i hope lots of trades happen, they make the nfl more exciting. whens the deadline again?

week 8 to my understanding.

Edited October 21, 2016 by jazz1988

[VermontRaven]

44 minutes ago, redlobster said:

i hope lots of trades happen, they make the nfl more exciting. whens the deadline again?

Nov 1 at 4:00 pm Eastern time

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[jazz1988]

I always had interest in Datone Jones as a potential trade options for The Ravens .

[Steve0x]

Trade Flacco to the Jets for 1st and second round picks. He needs to go back to Jersey. and Ravens will pick this guy.

Seth Russell – Baylor I like this guy. He's the next Peyton Manning

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B181TjRH7ko