The good the bad and the ugly post game rant/vent week six

[x Skinner]

Just a few thoughts.

Obviously in retrospect we should have kicked the FG, but how can you not trust your team to get a 1/2 yard? Didn't like the call to run a slow developing toss play though. 

I have been the biggest Flacco supporter from day one. I think he is a very good QB, and yes the offensive line had 4 backups in, but Joe missed 2 easy trows in the final couple of minutes that could have been huge, mainly the pass to Wallace who was wide open. He played bad and got lucky, but I do understand he did not have any time to throw after the first Drive. 

I'm no longer a Jimmy Smith hater. Played great today and was a key player, that was obvious especially after he got hurt. 

I liked the aggressive shots down the field, that's Flacco's strength. I like Terrance Wests play. 

I do think if we do not make the playoffs, Harbaugh is done. He will have another HC job within 2 days but the last 2 years he has not been a good game manager at all. Sometimes it looks like our offense doesn't there is a playclock... Anyway I do think this team can make the playoffs but things need to change immediately and they need to get it together. 

 

 

 

[ravensdfan]

9 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

 

getting blown out rather then be in close game with a chance to win it.

 

We squander those chances routinely. It isn't even close anymore. We lose more of those close games than we win. Again, no difference to anyone's job stability if we continually lose close games or at least look like we're trying to make something happen.

[Edgar]

13 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

That play was more on Wallace 

What did you see that makes you say that?

[BmoreBird22]

5 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I can!

In no particular order

Antonio Brown(6th rounder. As you can see. Exception not the norm)

ODB(first rounder, no chance)

AJ Green(first rounder, no chance)

Julio Jones(first rounder, no chance)

Brandon Marshall(4th rounder who developed smoothly, had a chance but understood why we didn't take him. Was a headcase)

Larry Fitzgerald(yes. Still in my top 10. Super reliable. Also, first rounder and no chance)

Dez Bryant(cowboys screwed us over big time here. No chance thanks to them. Would be a Raven otherwise guarenteed)

Alshon Jeffery(most agreed he was a first round talent. Fell to the second. Had a chance am still mad about this one)

Deandre Hopkins(taken ahead of us. No chance)

Sammy Watkins(First rounder, not a chance in hell)

 

See what I'm saying.

In no particular order we have...

OBJ (picked before Ravens)

Fitz because he does everything well (picked before Ravens)

Bryant (picked before Ravens)

Julio (picked before Ravens)

Green (picked before Ravens)

Hopkins (picked before Ravens)

Brown (31 teams passed on him and the Steelers passed on him until the sixth)

Watkins (picked before Ravens)

Evans (picked before Ravens)

Thomas (picked before the Ravens).

Then you have some other young guns who will probably step up soon in a guy like Cooper who went fourth overall.

I mean, really, the "playmakers" are going before the Ravens pick or are a top 20 pick, with Cooks for example. I actually really wanted Cooks for the Ravens, but Mosley is a playmaker.

 

[Davesta]

Can we bench Webby for brooks yet? Oh wait...

[arnie_uk]

You cant pin the offense on any one unit. 

One play you ge perfect blocking and the WR gets open.... Flacco flat out misses him.

Next play you have a pass rusher on top of Joe immediatley.

Then on 3rd down blocking holds, flacco throws a dart and the receiver will drop it.

Every unit is so inconsistent.

[Tank 92]

Just now, RayRayRaven said:

after seeing the replay it did look like flacco threw to the wrong guy on the last play  Aiken was far more open joe didn't see him

The ball was thrown before Aiken cut outside. Just watch the guy covering him, tells you a lot.

[allblackraven]

If Suggs in his 14th season and after the second torn achilles is our by far the best (and only) pass rusher, other guys on that line should be ashamed. Looks like we might have lost him again for some time, so what do we do?

 

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, arnie_uk said:

You cant pin the offense on any one unit. 

One play you ge perfect blocking and the WR gets open.... Flacco flat out misses him.

Next play you have a pass rusher on top of Joe immediatley.

Then on 3rd down blocking holds, flacco throws a dart and the receiver will drop it.

Every unit is so inconsistent.

Offense is just a giant cluster all around.  Was hoping the early season struggles were due to the lack of chemistry in preseason, but the issue has proven to be bigger than that at this point.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, rmw10 said:

Offense is just a giant cluster all around.  Was hoping the early season struggles were due to the lack of chemistry in preseason, but the issue has proven to be bigger than that at this point.

And we also have to adjust to a new coordinator too. 

 

Might not be our year. Poor Steve.

[PoeDinkum]

It will be interesting if the powers that be use the "What You Missed" segment tomorrow to post a photo of the last play as to whether Aiken was covered when Joe lofted the ball into triple coverage.

[arnie_uk]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

In no particular order we have...

OBJ (picked before Ravens)

Fitz because he does everything well (picked before Ravens)

Bryant (picked before Ravens)

Julio (picked before Ravens)

Green (picked before Ravens)

Hopkins (picked before Ravens)

Brown (31 teams passed on him and the Steelers passed on him until the sixth)

Watkins (picked before Ravens)

Evans (picked before Ravens)

Thomas (picked before the Ravens).

Then you have some other young guns who will probably step up soon in a guy like Cooper who went fourth overall.

I mean, really, the "playmakers" are going before the Ravens pick or are a top 20 pick, with Cooks for example. I actually really wanted Cooks for the Ravens, but Mosley is a playmaker.

 

I'll counter a couple of these. If they really wanted OBJ and dez, they should have moved up 3 or 4 spots to get the playmaker.

That's my issue with the front office. Every year, except this year, they seem content to let players fall to them. Move up a spot or two and take dez, then the Cowboys wouldn't have jumped you.

If they wanted OBJ, move up 3 4 5 spots and get him.

Sometimes hoarding picks backfires.

[Tru11]

 

Just now, ravensdfan said:

We squander those chances routinely. It isn't even close anymore. We lose more of those close games than we win. Again, no difference to anyone's job stability if we continually lose close games or at least look like we're trying to make something happen.

doing what you are suggesting does not even give you the chance to squander anything which moves the team further away from winning a game.

you are supposed to come up with things that improve your chances to win , not decrease them.

getting blown out means , you will be putting even more pressure on the offense to keep track.

its already clear this offense cant score much on their own.

when you have an explosive offense that can score at will , then you can take more risk since you know the offense can make up for any mistake.

when your offense cant score then you have no choice but to try to limit the opponent as much as possible.

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, allblackraven said:

If Suggs in his 14th season and after the second torn achilles is our by far the best (and only) pass rusher, other guys on that line should be ashamed. Looks like we might have lost him again for some time, so what do we do?

 

 

btw if we pay brandon williams I'll go APE

[GrimCoconut]

I'm starting to understand and empathize with how rmcjacket thinks and I don't particularly like that--no offense to you, @rmcjacket23. A lot of us are just really spoiled and expect a little bit too much. We're down so many starters. What did anyone expect? Yes, same excuse again, I'll give anyone that argument but it's still the reality. We're a very young team now. 

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, arnie_uk said:

I'll counter a couple of these. If they really wanted OBJ and dez, they should have moved up 3 or 4 spots to get the playmaker.

That's my issue with the front office. Every year, except this year, they seem content to let players fall to them. Move up a spot or two and take dez, then the Cowboys wouldn't have jumped you.

If they wanted OBJ, move up 3 4 5 spots and get him.

Sometimes hoarding picks backfires.

This assumes that the team in front of you wants to actually trade back.

In the case of OBJ, yes, in hindsight, trading up one spot would have been the smart move, but in the case of someone like OBJ, not a guarantee a team wants to trade back.

[Tru11]

5 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

In no particular order we have...

OBJ (picked before Ravens)

Fitz because he does everything well (picked before Ravens)

Bryant (picked before Ravens)

Julio (picked before Ravens)

Green (picked before Ravens)

Hopkins (picked before Ravens)

Brown (31 teams passed on him and the Steelers passed on him until the sixth)

Watkins (picked before Ravens)

Evans (picked before Ravens)

Thomas (picked before the Ravens).

Then you have some other young guns who will probably step up soon in a guy like Cooper who went fourth overall.

I mean, really, the "playmakers" are going before the Ravens pick or are a top 20 pick, with Cooks for example. I actually really wanted Cooks for the Ravens, but Mosley is a playmaker.

 

if this keeps up we might be in prime position to have a chance at picking who we want lol.

[rmw10]

Just now, arnie_uk said:

I'll counter a couple of these. If they really wanted OBJ and dez, they should have moved up 3 or 4 spots to get the playmaker.

That's my issue with the front office. Every year, except this year, they seem content to let players fall to them. Move up a spot or two and take dez, then the Cowboys wouldn't have jumped you.

If they wanted OBJ, move up 3 4 5 spots and get him.

Sometimes hoarding picks backfires.

This is my biggest complaint.  The FO has really dropped the ball in that regard in recent years.  If you want a guy, move up to get him.  Dez and Hopkins were 2 guys we were said to have really wanted, but we didn't do it.  I hate the idea of hoarding picks.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, Tru11 said:

if this keeps up we might be in prime position to have a chance at picking who we want lol.

Mike Williams would have been the guy I wanted last year, but if they fall into the teens, Williams will be my top player.

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

This assumes that the team in front of you wants to actually trade back.

In the case of OBJ, yes, in hindsight, trading up one spot would have been the smart move, but in the case of someone like OBJ, not a guarantee a team wants to trade back.

In some cases, it sounds like we just weren't willing to pay the price.  Teams were willing to move, at least.

[Sami84]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

This assumes that the team in front of you wants to actually trade back.

In the case of OBJ, yes, in hindsight, trading up one spot would have been the smart move, but in the case of someone like OBJ, not a guarantee a team wants to trade back.

 

eric and ozzie are more about quantity and hoping they'll get lucky  then trading up to get a better prospect.

 

i still cant believe with all the excellent players in the 2nd round we chose correa..

[arnie_uk]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

This assumes that the team in front of you wants to actually trade back.

In the case of OBJ, yes, in hindsight, trading up one spot would have been the smart move, but in the case of someone like OBJ, not a guarantee a team wants to trade back.

Of course not, just merely pointing out we are bit gun shy at times. Even this year, if they really loved ramsey. They should just go get him. They didn't and it may work out for the best, it may not.

But I couldn't criticise them for being agressive. I wish they'd be agressive in the future. Go get your guy

[BmoreBird22]

2 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I'm starting to understand and empathize with how rmcjacket thinks and I don't particularly like that--no offense to you, @rmcjacket23. A lot of us are just really spoiled and expect a little bit too much. We're down so many starters. What did anyone expect? Yes, same excuse again, I'll give anyone that argument but it's still the reality. We're a very young team now. 

Yeah, I mean, fans are getting exactly what they asked for.

Jimmy goes out (they wanted him benched) and Young is pretty much given the start (I do think he started, correct?) and what happens? In about two quarters and three or four minutes, Manning gets almost three hundred yards and three touchdowns thanks to those moves that fans wanted.

There is a huge reason fans don't run the teams.

[RayRayRaven]

3 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

The ball was thrown before Aiken cut outside. Just watch the guy covering him, tells you a lot.

I watched it a lot the jam was inside.  right endzone it was one on one at best would need a different angle from Sunday Ticket but I think he was open.  Flacco was high late. The line didn't let him look for long.

we still in the playoffs at 3-3? that's all that mattrrs, but we cant beat the pats or chargers fur sure. correa not playin

we are gonna play a lot of close games against bad teams

 

[ratedr]

I expect to hear that Suggs will be placed on IR. Designated to return, if we're lucky.

[BmoreBird22]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

This is my biggest complaint.  The FO has really dropped the ball in that regard in recent years.  If you want a guy, move up to get him.  Dez and Hopkins were 2 guys we were said to have really wanted, but we didn't do it.  I hate the idea of hoarding picks.

Hopkins was my number one player and everyone and their mother knew that the Texans were gonna take him. Really wish they had gone up and gotten him.

[arnie_uk]

1 minute ago, ratedr said:

I expect to hear that Suggs will be placed on IR. Designated to return, if we're lucky.

Torn bicep? May hang the cleats up if that's the case

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, arnie_uk said:

Of course not, just merely pointing out we are bit gun shy at times. Even this year, if they really loved ramsey. They should just go get him. They didn't and it may work out for the best, it may not.

But I couldn't criticise them for being agressive. I wish they'd be agressive in the future. Go get your guy

No, I totally agree, but I'm just saying I really don't think they end up with OBJ, but I truly do believe they could have had Hopkins if they had wanted him and obviously could have had Ramsey.

I'm much more about quality over quantity, but I'm just a guy.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Yeah, I mean, fans are getting exactly what they asked for.

Jimmy goes out (they wanted him benched) and Young is pretty much given the start (I do think he started, correct?) and what happens? In about two quarters and three or four minutes, Manning gets almost three hundred yards and three touchdowns thanks to those moves that fans wanted.

There is a huge reason fans don't run the teams.

Hey, that's my line

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

In some cases, it sounds like we just weren't willing to pay the price.  Teams were willing to move, at least.

Yeah, I know that in some cases it's the Ravens being stingy, like with Ramsey this year. 

They also could have had Hopkins if they wanted him.