The good the bad and the ugly post game rant/vent week six

[mmcclend]

1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

You know for a seinor your college you sure act like a freshman in high school. 

 

Let's see. Perriman makes a spectacular play on his first play.. And we're heralding him to be a bust when one of his drops was when he was covered, the other "mishap" he had was a bad throw by Joe(happens), and the third one is the one that's indefensible. And you're calling him a bust after six games?

 

Oh and not only this, but give me more examples. Diggs? Most agree he was a first to second round talent marred by injuries and now he's lighting it up? Brown? Steelers WR coach. Good at developing them. Same goes for Bryant and Coates. Not too many others in our range that were considered to be elite. 

Lol personal attacks again when we are on a Ravens forum but it's expected. Honestly, if you still disagree with what I've said after what you've seen then we might as well stop arguing. You probably still think we have one of the most talented teams in league don't you? Where did I say perriman was a bust??!!?!? That's everybody else. He flashed to me again today. You're a bit immature to be about what 50 or so?

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Nobody has all their players. I've said it before ... I'm done with this excuse for losing. No more injury passes. Find a way to get the 2nd tier to play well enough to win. 

It is very true that nobody has all their players, but teams that start four new offensive lineman (or offensive lineman in four new spots), lose their top WR, their top player in the front seven, their best corner, etc. don't typically win.

[ravensdfan]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

So you're advocating quantity over quality at this point? Which guys specifically should we be sending and which guys should be in coverage?

In particular, think second half, with no Jimmy Smith and no Shareece Wright for much of it. Who's rushing and who's helping in coverage?

I think you'll see it gets kind of difficult at this point. We blitzing our safeties? Cool, single coverage on the outside where we were getting whooped. Corner blitz? Yay, our wonderful in coverage OLBs or ILBs covering WRs. Standard linebacker blitz schemes? Yes, Webb or Weddle in the box helping out on ODB (I believe we saw this on the TD).

Schemes are cool, but they need to be executed. Would absolutely kill to see somebody put together a defensive scheme with the 11 guys we had out there at the end and explain how it would actually be effective.

Dean didn't just forget how to coach overnight...

These 4th quarter fails are not anything new. He brought them with him from NE and they've been a thorn in our side since he came here. Excuses time after 5 seasons has played out.

I'd love to see someone put together a defensive scheme with those guys too - someone other than Pees.

 

[usmccharles]

This is hilarious,  just reading these posts 

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

To West you looked good and have been looking good. There I said something nice and truthful.

Now just the truthful. The Ravens seem to think things will just be handed to them on the field. How many times did we see 1 and 20+ 2nd and 20+ or 3rd and 20+ today?

I will tell you what to work on 

In the trenches WIN the line of scrimmage both sides of the ball. Stop committing STUPID penalties both sides of the ball and show some URGENCY both sides of the ball

I mean, you've got three reserves on the Oline out there, and the "starters" were easily our worst two (Lewis and Zuttah). 

 

[BmoreRavens732]

5 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Still hate Jimmy Smith, guys?!

 

Smith haters can officially shut the hell up.

Good luck with that. I deal with this every time jimmy gives up 1 catch for 2 yards lol. People are never happy.

[markwatson159]

No urgency, Joe flacco off target, dropped passes, poor game management, injury after injury, hate too say it but we SUCK,

[balfan23]

How many points did this team leave on the table? We've got the best kicker in the world and we manage to penalize ourselves out of FG position ... or get right to the edge of his range and instead of getting a few yards to get him in range, we go nowhere and then net like 20 yards off a punt (after the compulsory ST penalty) ... then all of the red zone failures.  

Last year was frustrating and these last 3 games are a page right out of that book. Gotta right this thing immediately or we're going to be out of it by the bye. 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Just now, Militant X 1 said:

The Good: The Pizza in New York (second to none) & the Crab Cakes in Maryland

The Bad: THIS TEAM!!

The Ugly: THIS TEAM!!

They are and look horrible when they play!  Their spirit is broke!  Smh!

GOOD post

[Gerry M]

We are a very undisciplined team. Not just the penalties but guys not doing their own job. How do you let Beckham get open in the middle of the field and run untouched into the end zone.

[Tank 92]

1 minute ago, usmccharles said:

This is hilarious,  just reading these posts 

lol, no kidding.  

[Tru11]

5 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

You ignored the rest of the post. Where are the blitz packages? No one is saying blitz every down but seriously, everyone can see we're blitzing form the word go when we do it. Pees is mediocre at best & calls a game scared late in the 4th.

 

do you even think about what you are saying?

you want to blitz with your top 3 CBs out having a rookie and guy who barely played since a he got injured over a year ago while they are going up against 1 of the best WRs in the NFL?

 

 

[Ravens4Real]

After a loss, don't you think any injury riddled team could sit around and say that if their team wasn't injured that they'd win the game?

[usmccharles]

Just now, Tank 92 said:

lol, no kidding.  

Just when I think I've heard it all... Kind of refreshing actually,  reminds me that I'm objective 

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, ravensdfan said:

These 4th quarter fails are not anything new. He brought them with him from NE and they've been a thorn in our side since he came here. Excuses time after 5 seasons has played out.

I'd love to see someone put together a defensive scheme with those guys too - someone other than Pees.

 

I wouldn't mind it either. Because then when whatever the next scheme is doesn't work, I don't even have to say anything. I'll just eat my popcorn.

The "scheme" excuses are five years long now too, its played out as well. You can't stay lazy forever...

[Militant X 1]

The Good: The Pizza in New York (second to none) & the Crab Cakes in Maryland

The Bad: THIS TEAM!!

The Ugly: THIS TEAM!!

These Ravens look absolutely horrible when they play!I see no sense of urgency or confidence whatsoever from them.  Their spirit is broke!  Smh!

[I AM LEGEND]

I'll be more specific.. I think just having even SSS would've won us this game. Flacco went through a long stretch in 2nd-3rd quarter where he didn't look comfortable with any WRs ...

 

Also the minute I heard Jimmy wasn't coming back I knew we were in big trouble.

 

I was screaming for them to take the 3 pts and not go for it...this offense needs all the pts they can get.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I mean, you've got three reserves on the Oline out there, and the "starters" were easily our worst two (Lewis and Zuttah). 

 

I cant argue that except the mentality is next man up and to be honest my friend last week and the week before same stuff I mean we get the lead just to lose it at the end of the game seems to be the way of the Raven this year.

[Daft Classic]

3 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

Every damn team has major injury concerns at one time or another. I'm sick of people bringing out the injuries. Yes, it may have made a difference if everyone is out there but it's the NFL. You can't count on guys playing the whole season.  Hardly anyone makes it a full year anymore in today's NFL. 

There are a couple teams out there that are in just as worse if not even worse shape than we are injury wise.

So you're gonna act like the injuries didn't make the difference for us? That the Giants pass rush would still have camped out in our backfield if we had our 1st round LT and All-Pro RG? That OBJ and the rest of that WR core would still toast us if we had our #1 or #2 CB's or our Defensive Captain ILB? 

I'd understand your point if the Giants were just as hurt as we were. Then you can't blame injuries because they're just a bad off as we are. But when the Giants are running on 100% capacity versus a team that's keeping its head above water, games like this happen. The Big names we had that were sidelined weighed too much for us to compete with the Giants

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

Can you give me your top 10 receivers in the NFL? I'll give you mine, if you want, but I'm curious to see yours.

I can!

In no particular order

Antonio Brown(6th rounder. As you can see. Exception not the norm)

ODB(first rounder, no chance)

AJ Green(first rounder, no chance)

Julio Jones(first rounder, no chance)

Brandon Marshall(4th rounder who developed smoothly, had a chance but understood why we didn't take him. Was a headcase)

Larry Fitzgerald(yes. Still in my top 10. Super reliable. Also, first rounder and no chance)

Dez Bryant(cowboys screwed us over big time here. No chance thanks to them. Would be a Raven otherwise guarenteed)

Alshon Jeffery(most agreed he was a first round talent. Fell to the second. Had a chance am still mad about this one)

Deandre Hopkins(taken ahead of us. No chance)

Sammy Watkins(First rounder, not a chance in hell)

 

See what I'm saying.

 

 

[balfan23]

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

It is very true that nobody has all their players, but teams that start four new offensive lineman (or offensive lineman in four new spots), lose their top WR, their top player in the front seven, their best corner, etc. don't typically win.

In many ways, they did much of what they needed to do to overcome these issues. All things considered, the o line didn't do that badly. The loss of Jimmy turned out to be the one that we couldn't seem to survive. I'm just saying ... they were in a position to overcome and win this game. Wasting opportunities are what cost them this game more than anything. 

[Tru11]

4 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

These 4th quarter fails are not anything new. He brought them with him from NE and they've been a thorn in our side since he came here. Excuses time after 5 seasons has played out.

I'd love to see someone put together a defensive scheme with those guys too - someone other than Pees.

 

you want to blitz leaving davis or young alone on OBJ?

Heck you want to leave either of them alone on Cruz or sheppard for that matter?

[ravensdfan]

1 minute ago, Tru11 said:

 

do you even think about what you are saying?

you want to blitz with your top 3 CBs out having a rookie and guy who barely played since a he got injured over a year ago while they are going up against 1 of the best WRs in the NFL?

 

 

Did not doing it win us the game? I mean, you guys advocate the same crap and we're LOSING games anyway. You act like Pees' style is winning us games. Got news for you, Pees got here in 2012 - when we still had defensive minded studs Lewis & Reed here - that year we win the SB - hasn't been too great after that though has it?

We're NOT WINNING PLAYING SCARED. So what is the worst that happens?

[Ravens4Real]

There are teams in our own division that are just as injured as we are. 

[Italian Raven]

man.. I never faulted Flacco for a loss, nor I will hand him the whole fault: ZERO pass-rush, sth close to no depth at CB (and lack of a true #2), Oline which keeps been devastated by injuries.. but he showed very few awarness on few occasions. He missed Dixon and Wallace totally alone in the end-zone, overthrowing by 10-15 yards, he missed Aiken on that 3rd down that would've given us around 20 sec from inside their 15; on the last rollout Pitta was totally alone in the red-zone (at least given that camera angle). Even on that first completion on Perriman, Wallace was uncovered going for a post (I believe). We were almost handed a game by dumb late penalties and still gave it away.
I guess we'll be drafting at least 2 pass-rushers next April. For our luck this class has plenty of those.

[redrum52]

4 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

lol.......Not sure what you are watching, but Aiken hadn't even made his cut when the ball was thrown. 

I was at the game.  He was wide open.  Joe left at least 2tds on the field.  Coaching didn't help and neither did Jimmy getting hurt.

[BmoreRavens732]

Lack of pass rush is really killing us on defense. BAD!!! 

Our oline is seriously killing our offense to. 90% of passing plays flacco can barely even finish his drop back without getting murdered. 

#flaccoslifematters

[Tank 92]

Just now, redrum52 said:

I was at the game.  He was wide open.  Joe left at least 2tds on the field.  Coaching didn't help and neither did Jimmy getting hurt.

Watch it again and I think you'll see it differently.

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

I cant argue that except the mentality is next man up and to be honest my friend last week and the week before same stuff I mean we get the lead just to lose it at the end of the game seems to be the way of the Raven this year.

I frankly don't have an issue with pre-game injuries. We played better than I expected on the offensive line to be honest.

What a team like ours can't overcome is having Jimmy get injured halfway through the game. Even Shareece going out, who isn't anything special, really hurt things.

We can gameplan around players we know we won't have. Having to in-game adjust to troubling injuries is a whole different animal.

[BSHU_Miami]

It baffles me how much the CB position is ignored. We turn into a damn JV squad when jimmy is hurt. We've seen it before hoe do you not load up on corners in these drafts. How Do you not load up on pass rushers when the best ones are in the mid-30s

Our team is decimated and yet again we din't have depth are positions of need.