The good the bad and the ugly post game rant/vent week six

[I AM LEGEND]

Really feel like if we had all our players we win this game. 

 

[mmcclend]

1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Antonio Brown was drafted in the 6th round because he went to a smaller school and not everyone thought the game would translate for him. So the Steelers took a shot and since they're great at developing WRs he ended up becoming maybe the best WR in football..

 

Do your research

What is your point? Soooo thats your excuse as to why we can draft a good wr? Do your research. Receivers are drafted every year in rounds 4-7 that are better than any receiver we have on the team. Homer. 

[drillem]

Suggs is getting to old to blitz   He gets hurt too many times he tries.  Not knocking Suggs.  He was the best of the best a few years back.  Dumervil is getting long in the tooth as well.  We need a player revamp, big time.

[ravensdfan]

Just now, rmw10 said:

We've tried rushing 5 numerous times and the pressure still isn't getting there, leaving the DBs even further exposed.  You can blame Pees all you want, but this team isn't going to have success on the defensive side of the ball unless they can find a way to get to the QB on a consistent basis.  It's shocking they've done as well as they have to this point, in all honesty.

You ignored the rest of the post. Where are the blitz packages? No one is saying blitz every down but seriously, everyone can see we're blitzing form the word go when we do it. Pees is mediocre at best & calls a game scared late in the 4th.

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

its time to go into operation tank. we aint getting myles garret though so stop dreaming..the browns own the 2017 draft.

This is disgusting and no self  respecting athlete nor fan would want this.  Coming from you,  it's expected

[BmoreBird22]

For anyone who wants to blame Pees, just stop. After Jimmy goes out, the top two corners are Tavon Young and Will Davis. One is a rookie and one was a healthy scratch for four weeks and didn't really play in week five. Tell me how that'll go over well?

Also take into account that the Ravens were missing Mosley for the entire game, Doom for the entire game, and lost Suggs at some point. I mean, did you all expect much?

Oh, and for those asking for Jimmy to be benched and Tavon to start, you got it. Tavon got his start and played a pretty horrendous game.

[Cillmatic]

Still hate Jimmy Smith, guys?!

 

Smith haters can officially shut the hell up.

[DomMcRaven]

2 minutes ago, BmoreRavens732 said:

2 plays you guys are blaming Joe on that he didn't screw up.

1: over throwing Wallace on the last drive. No he did not. Wallace wasn't looking at flacco at all until it was to late. Joe was trying to hit him in stride and mike was simply not payin attention.

2: Aiken was wide open. Wrong again. Aiken didn't break open til the ball was thrown and his man who was covering him followed the ball and went away from aiken to leave him by himself. But you know I guess flacco was supposed to magically act as a magnet to bring the ball back to his hands then throw it again since Aiken's man left him open when he threw it the first time huh? 

Btw jimmy receives to much hate. Gives up 1 TD all year and shuts guys down and he gets hurts and all hell breaks loose. 

People pick who to hate on.

Yep. Looked like he let up at the last moment too. 

[-Truth-]

The only positive from this week was that the AFC North was swept clean outside of our loss. Terrance West continues to look like the guy. These finishes are difficult to stomach. And I doubt that I could eat the amount I want to vomit.

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

I mean, isn't there a middle ground? You know, like perhaps occassionally rushing 5 instead of 4? Especially when the 4 isn't getting pressure at all. I've heard of these things too - oh what was the term - oh, creative blitz packages. I've heard we used to have them - that even other teams' DCs use them. Of course, they might be a myth.

So you're advocating quantity over quality at this point? Which guys specifically should we be sending and which guys should be in coverage?

In particular, think second half, with no Jimmy Smith and no Shareece Wright for much of it. Who's rushing and who's helping in coverage?

I think you'll see it gets kind of difficult at this point. We blitzing our safeties? Cool, single coverage on the outside where we were getting whooped. Corner blitz? Yay, our wonderful in coverage OLBs or ILBs covering WRs. Standard linebacker blitz schemes? Yes, Webb or Weddle in the box helping out on ODB (I believe we saw this on the TD).

Schemes are cool, but they need to be executed. Would absolutely kill to see somebody put together a defensive scheme with the 11 guys we had out there at the end and explain how it would actually be effective.

Dean didn't just forget how to coach overnight...

[balfan23]

1 minute ago, I AM LEGEND said:

Really feel like if we had all our players we win this game. 

Nobody has all their players. I've said it before ... I'm done with this excuse for losing. No more injury passes. Find a way to get the 2nd tier to play well enough to win. 

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, ravensdfan said:

You ignored the rest of the post. Where are the blitz packages? No one is saying blitz every down but seriously, everyone can see we're blitzing form the word go when we do it. Pees is mediocre at best & calls a game scared late in the 4th.

I'm not ignoring it.  The 2 go hand in hand.  Even blitzes are questionable when you don't have edge guys who can put half decent pressure.  The best plays are stunts up the middle, and yep, you guessed it... when they don't work, it leaves the secondary exposed once again.  You need standard pass rush to be able to do more.  We don't have that.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, mmcclend said:

What is your point? Soooo thats your excuse as to why we can draft a good wr? Do your research. Receivers are drafted every year in rounds 4-7 that are better than any receiver we have on the team. Homer. 

You know for a seinor your college you sure act like a freshman in high school. 

 

Let's see. Perriman makes a spectacular play on his first play.. And we're heralding him to be a bust when one of his drops was when he was covered, the other "mishap" he had was a bad throw by Joe(happens), and the third one is the one that's indefensible. And you're calling him a bust after six games?

 

Oh and not only this, but give me more examples. Diggs? Most agree he was a first to second round talent marred by injuries and now he's lighting it up? Brown? Steelers WR coach. Good at developing them. Same goes for Bryant and Coates. Not too many others in our range that were considered to be elite. 

[Ravens4Real]

5 minutes ago, Daft Classic said:

Aight so:

No Stanley, No Wagner, No Yanda, No SSS, No Jimmy, No Shareece, No CJ, No Suggs, ZDS hurt, Tavon Hurt, Zuttah hurt, AND we still only lost by 4? Honestly not bad. 

If you saw our Injury report and thought we were gonna play a clean game or even win, you're delusional. We were set up for failure right from the kickoff. 

That said, We desperately need to get healthy. The injuries are becoming too much to handle. Hopefully Stanley, Yanda, and/or Wagner can come back next week to mitigate the pain on the O-line, and SSS is good enough to give us some reliable hands. 

The offense played pretty well for all the pieces they were missing. Mornhinweg is a far better replacement from Trestman. Defense laid an egg though in the passing game. Gotta put the blame on the lack of pass rush there, because OBJ is gonna burn us when Will Davis and Tavon Young are on him

Overall, this game sucked, but really there wasn't anything too unexpected. We stopped the run, couldn't stop the pass, We started running more, the passing game saw some effectiveness. It s meh, and it gets better knowing the rest of the AFCN lost as well. 

 

And for the love of [Deity], STOP LETTING HARBAUGH GO FOR IT ON 4TH DOWN

Every damn team has major injury concerns at one time or another. I'm sick of people bringing out the injuries. Yes, it may have made a difference if everyone is out there but it's the NFL. You can't count on guys playing the whole season.  Hardly anyone makes it a full year anymore in today's NFL. 

There are a couple teams out there that are in just as worse if not even worse shape than we are injury wise.

Edited October 16, 2016 by Ravens4Real

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, ravensdfan said:

You ignored the rest of the post. Where are the blitz packages? No one is saying blitz every down but seriously, everyone can see we're blitzing form the word go when we do it. Pees is mediocre at best & calls a game scared late in the 4th.

He actually calls very multiple defenses. He may show blitz, but he's very good about confusing fronts with who is really going to come and who's not going to come.

[rafahash]

Just now, balfan23 said:

Nobody has all their players. I've said it before ... I'm done with this excuse for losing. No more injury passes. Find a way to get the 2nd tier to play well enough to win. 

I agree. Every team deals with injuries. Ours hurts us so badly because we have no depth.

[Florida Ravens Fan]

I'm tired of this team always hoarding picks.. for what? We need to trade the late rounders and move up. 

[rmcjacket23]

3 minutes ago, I AM LEGEND said:

Really feel like if we had all our players we win this game. 

 

I don't think that's even a question. A healthy Oline and no-in game injuries, and we probably win by 10. We could have won this without Dumervil and Mosley. We couldn't win it with your two best corners out and a makeshift offensive line.

I didn't come out of this game impressed by the Giants at all. They were who I thought they were.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

Good: Offensive skill players

Bad: Defense and offensive line

Ugly:

Goodbye Yellow BrickHead Coach! John will be fired and he should be fired. Apparently, he has never heard the expression "pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered. Don't be greedy. Take what the defense will give ya." He singularly cost us another game today due to his huge Harbaugh ego. This time the team could not bail him out despite a heroic effort on the part of several different players. He failed to put his team into a position to win. With one of the worst red zone offenses in the NFL, he chose to go for it on 4th down and 1 instead of kicking the FG. Coming away with no points in that situation is an absolute momentum buster for our team and provides an emotional lift to the other team. Stupid is as stupid does, Coach! Worst of all, the HC accepted zero responsibility for the loss in his post-game presser. You can say what you want but if you are not a part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.   

[BmoreRavens732]

2 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Jimmy is still showing he's one of the most indispensable players on this team. Once he went out, OBJ had a field day. 

Yes sir. People expect him to give up 0 catches every game. Dont work that way. Not for revis not for Norman not for Sherman. Not even for the great deion sanders. People need to live in reality .

[Bruce_Almty]

Pittsburgh loses...Cincinnati loses...Cleveland loses...Baltimore loses...Heck of a day for the division.

[HazDaGeneral]

20 minutes ago, drillem said:

is flacco gun-shy from the knee injury?  or just the old flacco with moments of brilliance followed by hours of wth

That knee is making him look terrible with his throws.....wallace wide open and he overthrows him with the giants corners nowhere in sight 

[DomMcRaven]

Last season, 14 out of 16 games were decided by 8 points or fewer.

This season? A perfect 6 out of 6. 

That's a WHOPPING 20 out of 22 games! Being a fan of this team isn't for the faint of heart (if that's even the proper phrase).

[Raving_Heathen]

The lack of urgency on offense with a minute and change in the game and only 1 TO was infuriating. Why does this offense always look like they're moving through molasses? ALWAYS! I just can't comprehend why. Can someone please explain this to me? Seriously.

Also the mismanagement/wasting of TOs is another thing that seems to happen game in and game out, year in and year out. I'm getting so impatient with certain aspects of this team. These aren't things you can blame on injuries or talent. I just don't understand.

[RayRayRaven]

3 minutes ago, Daft Classic said:

Aight so:

 

 

And for the love of [Deity], STOP LETTING HARBAUGH GO FOR IT ON 4TH DOWN

Harb game coaches like we are a super bowl champion and we are gonna blow out the team we are playin.  he thinks we can give away 3 points here and there because we can explode like the saints or pats.  we cant every game is gonna be close because our D plays hard but we lack a potent offense. Harb has to coach this team carefully and he is not

 

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, mmcclend said:

What is your point? Soooo thats your excuse as to why we can draft a good wr? Do your research. Receivers are drafted every year in rounds 4-7 that are better than any receiver we have on the team. Homer. 

Yes, yes they are. But its throwing darts at a dartboard. You can say that about every position on the field. If teams could consistently figure out how to evaluate players in the 4th-7th rounds, wouldn't they just become 1st rounders?

 

[BmoreBird22]

5 minutes ago, mmcclend said:

What is your point? Soooo thats your excuse as to why we can draft a good wr? Do your research. Receivers are drafted every year in rounds 4-7 that are better than any receiver we have on the team. Homer. 

Can you give me your top 10 receivers in the NFL? I'll give you mine, if you want, but I'm curious to see yours.

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

oh btw ..i fully expect suggs to be out for a long time with a torn bicep.

 

I have the same bad feeling

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

To West you looked good and have been looking good. There I said something nice and truthful.

Now just the truthful. The Ravens seem to think things will just be handed to them on the field. How many times did we see 1 and 20+ 2nd and 20+ or 3rd and 20+ today?

I will tell you what to work on 

In the trenches WIN the line of scrimmage both sides of the ball. Stop committing STUPID penalties both sides of the ball and show some URGENCY both sides of the ball

[Tank 92]

5 minutes ago, I AM LEGEND said:

Really feel like if we had all our players we win this game. 

 

I think it hurt us a lot, but if Jimmy doesn't go down we win.