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[jazz1988]

So Kendrick Lewis is now on i.r. I'm guess for sure Matt Elam will definitely be playing this season once week 9 comes around. 

 

 

[RavensFanMania]

4 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

So Kendrick Lewis is now on i.r. I'm guess for sure Matt Elam will definitely be playing this season once week 9 comes around. 

 

 

I'm looking forward to see how he does.  

[jazz1988]

3 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:

I'm looking forward to see how he does.  

Me too. I honestly think he could potential  be more of a playmaker than Lewis.

Edited October 22, 2016 by jazz1988

[RavensFanMania]

6 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

Me too. I honestly think he could potential  be more of a playmaker than Lewis.

Lol, This is not hard to do.  Should set his sights a bit hire. I get your point though.

[Rav'n Maniac]

48 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

Me too. I honestly think he could potential  be more of a playmaker than Lewis.

...and Webb. (finished it for you)

Edited October 22, 2016 by Rav'n Maniac

[PurpleCity5]

1 hour ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

...and Webb. (finished it for you)

I don't agree with the crap Webb has been getting this year. He's not elite but he's okay. We don't have the money to go out there and get a free safety given the hole at CB, OLB and OL. 

[Maryland]

4 hours ago, K-Dog said:

I guess we should go with

" It would be in your best interest to win"

( doesn't exactly flow off the tongue though)

Haha, so true. 

3 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

So Kendrick Lewis is now on i.r. I'm guess for sure Matt Elam will definitely be playing this season once week 9 comes around. 

I think having Elam return off of IR was the plan all along. The only factor that might change this is if we sustain several major injuries at NT or 3-tech and suddenly need Carl Davis.

3 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

...and Webb. (finished it for you)

Might actually be true. For the first time in a long time, I can honestly say I look forward to seeing what Elam does at safety. If he can tackle effectively (big 'if'), he could be an improvement over Webb. Webb will have some OK games and then follow it up with some stinkers where he seems late on multiple plays. 

[Davesta]

2 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't agree with the crap Webb has been getting this year. He's not elite but he's okay. We don't have the money to go out there and get a free safety given the hole at CB, OLB and OL. 

We should draft and develop one. Oh wait, we did. And we cut him for Lewis. 

[RavensFan34950]

20 hours ago, DomMcRaven said:

Please don't jinx us....

Lol last 3 weeks I predicted we'd lose those games and we lost. So I'm trying something new this week. THE POWER OF POSITIVITY

[harfordravenfan]

4 hours ago, RavensFanMania said:

Lol, This is not hard to do.  Should set his sights a bit hire. I get your point though.

Beat me to it, I was thinking the same thing as I was going through the comments

[Rav'n Maniac]

4 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't agree with the crap Webb has been getting this year. He's not elite but he's okay. We don't have the money to go out there and get a free safety given the hole at CB, OLB and OL. 

OK you are entitled to your opinion and I'm not trying to rag on you, just explaining my position. I base mine on what he has or hasn't done.

So far this season he has 1 pass defensed, has made 16 tackles and given up 1 TD where he was the primary cover. As you said not elite but ok.

As a free safety, he is suppose to be the last line of defense and to assist our corners deep. There have been 11 other passing TD's against us and only one of those where he wasn't on the field. Of those 10 he was on the field, 9 he was out of position to help on.  Take the last game as example; after watching the film, there were 2 touchdowns in the right corner. 1 against Young and 1 against Davis. Both plays he was in the middle of the field covering no one and he didn't slide to help those guys or at least until it was too late. That's the kind of piss poor play we've been getting and in my opinion, he's not much better than Kendrick Lewis.

And that 9.5m we could save could go towards that CB, OLB and OL you mentioned.

Edited October 22, 2016 by Rav'n Maniac

[Somerset Ravens]

37 minutes ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

OK you are entitled to your opinion and I'm not trying to rag on you, just explaining my position. I base mine on what he has or hasn't done.

So far this season he has 1 pass defensed, has made 16 tackles and given up 1 TD where he was the primary cover. As you said not elite but ok.

As a free safety, he is suppose to be the last line of defense and to assist our corners deep. There have been 11 other passing TD's against us and only one of those where he wasn't on the field. Of those 10 he was on the field, 9 he was out of position to help on.  Take the last game as example; after watching the film, there were 2 touchdowns in the right corner. 1 against Young and 1 against Davis. Both plays he was in the middle of the field covering no one and he didn't slide to help those guys. That's the kind of piss poor play we've been getting and in my opinion, he's not much better than Kendrick Lewis.

And that 9.5m we could save could go towards that CB, OLB and OL you mentioned.

I certainly agree with your assessment. Webb's performance this season has been adequate at best. With a 2017 salary of $5,500,000 this should be his last year with the Ravens unless he is willing to renegotiate and take a significant salary reduction.

[DomMcRaven]

Even though Eli had 2 INTs, he should've had 4 if it wasn't for dropped INTs by the BFFs (Webb and Wright).

*sighs*

[RavensFan34950]

47 minutes ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

OK you are entitled to your opinion and I'm not trying to rag on you, just explaining my position. I base mine on what he has or hasn't done.

So far this season he has 1 pass defensed, has made 16 tackles and given up 1 TD where he was the primary cover. As you said not elite but ok.

As a free safety, he is suppose to be the last line of defense and to assist our corners deep. There have been 11 other passing TD's against us and only one of those where he wasn't on the field. Of those 10 he was on the field, 9 he was out of position to help on.  Take the last game as example; after watching the film, there were 2 touchdowns in the right corner. 1 against Young and 1 against Davis. Both plays he was in the middle of the field covering no one and he didn't slide to help those guys. That's the kind of piss poor play we've been getting and in my opinion, he's not much better than Kendrick Lewis.

And that 9.5m we could save could go towards that CB, OLB and OL you mentioned.

Just wondering, do you know how a cover 3 works? I feel you're giving the corners a complete pass when they're the ones getting toasted for the TD. From what I've seen, Webb is only responsible for 2 maybe 3 tds so far. Wright has given up 5 alone, but Webb is the problem? I agree he is not worth the money he's making, but he is far from the problem on defense.

[Rav'n Maniac]

59 minutes ago, RavensFan34950 said:

Just wondering, do you know how a cover 3 works? I feel you're giving the corners a complete pass when they're the ones getting toasted for the TD. From what I've seen, Webb is only responsible for 2 maybe 3 tds so far. Wright has given up 5 alone, but Webb is the problem? I agree he is not worth the money he's making, but he is far from the problem on defense.

I never said Webb was "the problem" as you put it. What I said is "9 he was out of position to help on".

Of course I know what a cover 3 zone is lol. Unfortunately, on the two plays I described,  they weren't in a cover 3. Let me pose the same question to you. Do you know how a single high, man under works? That's what they were in, both corners up at the line in man with 1 safety deep. Webb is exactly what I expected him to be at safety, the same as he was at corner the last couple years. It really doesn't matter at this point, he's ours for the remainder of this season at least. I will root for him to play well as I would any player on the team.

I agree with you on Wright, or anyone else on that side. they all need help over the top.

[ravens rule]

Is anyone really surprised that Webb and Wright are struggling. Love how they were just given their starting gigs. If Will Hill wasn't doing you know what he would be forming the best safety tandem with Weddle. 

[DThomp]

Jingas!  Can we win this one?!!!  I am sick of this losing streak...Jingas!!  What's it's gonna take?!!!!!!!!  Jingas!!!!

[JO_75]

Flacco to start against the Jets. Hopefully we try to take advantage of a bad Jets defense and air it out. Just don't want another nail biter.

[PurpleCity5]

10 hours ago, Davesta said:

We should draft and develop one. Oh wait, we did. And we cut him for Lewis. 

When has Terrance Brooks ever looked elite? Why are people so fascinated with him? Has he ever made an interception? Forced fumble? Brooks couldn't even beat out Kendrick Lewis and is doing nothing in Philadelphia. I'm sorry but Brooks is just not there. 

[PurpleCity5]

8 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

OK you are entitled to your opinion and I'm not trying to rag on you, just explaining my position. I base mine on what he has or hasn't done.

So far this season he has 1 pass defensed, has made 16 tackles and given up 1 TD where he was the primary cover. As you said not elite but ok.

As a free safety, he is suppose to be the last line of defense and to assist our corners deep. There have been 11 other passing TD's against us and only one of those where he wasn't on the field. Of those 10 he was on the field, 9 he was out of position to help on.  Take the last game as example; after watching the film, there were 2 touchdowns in the right corner. 1 against Young and 1 against Davis. Both plays he was in the middle of the field covering no one and he didn't slide to help those guys or at least until it was too late. That's the kind of piss poor play we've been getting and in my opinion, he's not much better than Kendrick Lewis.

And that 9.5m we could save could go towards that CB, OLB and OL you mentioned.

Did you see the defense when Lewis subbed in for Webb? Just how awful it looked? I don't think Webb is great by any means and would love an upgrade but at the moment he's serviceable for what we are lacking and that's a pass rush and another cover CB. As far as the TD against Odell Beckham Jr., I have to say that Webb did not take the best angle and got shook, again, not saying Webb is great. 

In a cover 2 or 3, Webb responsibility on many defensive coverage plays is two things. Make sure we don't get beat deep(Which in many situations we have not) and to cover the deep middle to cover TEs(which he has been serviceable at). When he is in the middle of the field, I would say most of the time he's covering the deep middle sticking a TE, not covering no one as you said. One Beckham's first TD you see Webb stick on Fells(Donnell?) showing his coverage assignment. I don't know what you mean by the idea that he was late to cover on Davis TD, he was no where near the area considering his coverage assignment wasn't there. Looks to me that Weddle had the primary deep coverage, didn't help that Will Davis made an awful play there. On the 2nd Beckham TD, I agree that it was a poor play by Webb, but it was a collectively awful play by the defense as two players completely tangled together. 

The Ravens have given up very few big plays with Webb handing deep coverage responsibilities, that fine with me given with what we have to work with right not. I look back on the big plays we given up last year and I consider him an upgrade over Lewis in a big way. 

[Desert]

On 10/16/2016 at 5:14 PM, Sami84 said:

btw..Ryan Fitzpatick when not pressured can play as good as anyone in this league..

 

Unfortunately I have to agree with this statement. Fitzpatrick has always played well when he is supposed to lose badly.

 

Desert

[rmcjacket23]

12 hours ago, Somerset Ravens said:

I certainly agree with your assessment. Webb's performance this season has been adequate at best. With a 2017 salary of $5,500,000 this should be his last year with the Ravens unless he is willing to renegotiate and take a significant salary reduction.

1. Yes, adequate. I don't see what some people see which is him playing poorly. I think he's a mediocre safety, and when he teams with Weddle, I think its an above average safety unit, bordering on pretty good.

2. 2017 is the last year of his contract, so I highly doubt he plays it out all the way. Most likely, he signs another extension reflective of his position change. Realistically, he's probably a $4-5M a year type player, which is probably what we will try to get him for. He's been more durable recently, and the FO very clearly thinks highly of Webb in this organization, so I'd expect him to sign another extension.

[poescrows]

The Sun's Jeff Zrebiec scouting report for todays game: He gives the edge to Bmore in 4 of his 6 facets of the game, and "even" on the other 2. Then proceeds to predict a Jets win............huh?

[Ravensdoordie]

6 hours ago, JO_75 said:

Flacco to start against the Jets. Hopefully we try to take advantage of a bad Jets defense and air it out. Just don't want another nail biter.

And Gino for the Jets... Sorry it isn't Fitzpatrick .. Seems to me whenever a different QB comes in and especially one that everyone says we should eat up and spot out they sort of have the best game of their career against us... Seems that the Ravens in these instances have a mind set that they can just walk on the field and beat them... I hope this is not the case today... Hope pees has some different looks up his sleeve and the defense gets some pressure and sacks.... 

[VermontRaven]

1 hour ago, Desert said:

Unfortunately I have to agree with this statement. Fitzpatrick has always played well when he is supposed to lose badly.

 

Desert

 Kind of irrelevant now since Geno is starting.

[jdynamite]

Just got a notification Stanley is one of the inactive players today. 

Flacco and jimmy Smith are active. 

Really surprised I read Stanley was full practice participate all week what gives?

[January J]

33 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

Just got a notification Stanley is one of the inactive players today. 

Flacco and jimmy Smith are active. 

Really surprised I read Stanley was full practice participate all week what gives?

Unfrickinbelievable. Really expected him to be out there. That just doesn't make sense. He practiced all week and wasn't even limited correct? Unless his replacement just had a really good week of practice and they are playing it safe. Even still this is a shocker. I saw jimmy being inactive before Stanley. 

[jboy19]

11 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

Just got a notification Stanley is one of the inactive players today. 

Flacco and jimmy Smith are active. 

Really surprised I read Stanley was full practice participate all week what gives?

Yeah I was surprised too. Guess they want to be extra careful with that foot. 

[jdynamite]

I'm hoping it's wrong. It's happen before where the early announcement said one thing then it changed at game time. 

 

But i saw it on twitter as well. 

[January J]

3 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

I'm hoping it's wrong. It's happen before where the early announcement said one thing then it changed at game time. 

 

But i saw it on twitter as well. 

Nope its correct. Just saw it confirmed. Shareece is inactive as well. Smh. 

Oh well we will have to make do.