Past Predictions we've all made!

[JoeyFlex5]

there was a discussion on another thread about posters predicting a player in the draft and being wrong and bla bla, so i figured this would be a fun thread idea. some players you went out of your way to predict would be good or bad, some unpopular opinions you had that turned out to be right, or if you were dead wrong about a specific player.. 

some of the notables ones that i was right about... i said jordan matthews was gonna be the 2nd or 3rd best WR in his class after watkins and/or ODB, i got lit up for putting him above marqise lee, these boards laid into me so badly for that one that i actually went against my gut feeling because i thought "maybe theres something special there that im missing?" and started pulling for lee and mainly because everyone raved about his explosiveness. deep down i always knew matthews was the man. 

i thought eric ebron would be a bust and while he hasnt been "bad" he certainly hasnt lived up to 10th overall on an extremely pass happy offense. was an unpopular opinion around here as well. 

i saw cyrus kouandjio as a massive bust and considered him a 4th or 5th rounder. wasnt really an unpopular one as a lot of people agreed, which makes me wonder how the pro scouts didnt see it... 

i saw an average/below average safety in kenny vaccaro.  

now for the WRONG ones... 

i thought matt elam was gonna win DROY and then eventually win DROY within his rookie deal. also was certain that arthur brown was the next bowman. 

i thought cordarelle patterson, justin hunter, kevin minter, jonathan bostic, and margus hunt were future stars in 2013. 

i thought sammy watkins was the most exciting wr prospect i had ever seen. 

i thought mike evans was gonna be horrible, very wrong there.

i was scared of anthony barr, didnt think he was ever gonna be a 3 down defender. 

i was really pissed about the mosley pick because i just knew we were drafting HHCD and i was really pissed that we drafted another ILB after brown and let our safeties go on being trash for another year... i knew mosley was the better player but thought HHCD was the better choice... thats probably wrong. 

i thought deone bucannon would be worthless 

i thought kelvin benjamin would be out of the league in a few years because his arm and body catching and complete lack of route running would have the panthers quit on him early... still dont know how hes playing so well in the nfl but good on him. 

thought jimmy ward was the next big time ballhawk and a perennial pro bowler. 

i thought allen robinson would be a bust. 

i wanted terrence brooks in the 2nd round and was pissed when we didnt take him. 

 

what are some good calls or really bad calls you all have made in previous drafts? i tried to stick to recent ones but not too recent because its too early to tell in case you didnt notice.

 

[MTRavensFan]

I was in love with Kelvin Benjamin after watching him at the combine, but was too afraid to voice that opinion with how he was bashed around here.

However, I think that was the same year I picked Jacoby Jones for breakout player of the year, LOL ? 

[Cillmatic]

I'm the guy who said it would be cool if we drafted JOHNNY FOOTBALL and had him learn behind Joe. I was a young and dumb football fan back then.

Edited October 15, 2016 by Cillmatic

[JoeyFlex5]

4 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

I'm the guy who said it would be cool if we drafted JOHNNY FOOTBALL and had him learn behind Joe. I was a young and dumb football fan back then.

oh god. thats a bad one.

[darklight1216]

I don't follow college football, consequently I take a wait and see approach to draft picks.

However, I wanted Baltimore to draft Jimmy Graham so badly. They took 2 tight ends that year, but not him.

I also liked Eric Reid, but I don't know what he's doing these days.

[JoeyFlex5]

34 minutes ago, darklight1216 said:

I don't follow college football, consequently I take a wait and see approach to draft picks.

However, I wanted Baltimore to draft Jimmy Graham so badly. They took 2 tight ends that year, but not him.

I also liked Eric Reid, but I don't know what he's doing these days.

eric reid has been pretty decent. his production may lag a bit behind his draft slot but hes been a first round safety. definitely the best safety from his class.

[Edgar]

I started a " let's draft CJ Mosley ", thread that was roundly and soundly bashed. Even suggested we should draft Jernigan once he failed a test and it looked like he might fall.

Also called for us to draft Stanley.

 Was ecstatic when we drafted Arthur Brown and Maxx Williams....liked both of them a lot.

Also loved Robert Woods. 

Edited October 17, 2016 by Edgar

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Wrong: 

Elam 

Brown

Thought Brandon Williams would suck(this was before I seriously watched tape).

Tandon Doss

Most recently Myles Jack. But he fell due to injury concerns. 

 

Right:

Ronnie Stanley. Was on his train since the beginning. He's looked good. 

Anthony Barr

Jimmy Smith

Kelechi Osemele

Courtney Upshaw sucking at rushing the passer

[RaineV1]

I thought Jay Ajayi would be a top ten running back in the NFL. Granted, he did just have a two hundred some yard game, but that's how I expected him to play on a regular basis. Also, I loved Agholor but he's been pretty underwhelming in the NFL.

[hn68wb4]

Off the top of my head:

Loved Brian Quick and he never completely panned out

Didn't like Tavon Austin and it seems I was right mostly on that one, not that I didn't think he'd be an ok player, I thought top 10 was a massive reach. He's an alright player I guess.

Thought Jarvis Landry would be better than Beckham - to be fair both are #1 WRs and Landry hasn't had consistent QB play.

Was right on David Johnson, thought he'd be a great RB.

Thought Trent Richardson would be a good RB, though to be fair I didn't think he was worth #3 overall. In that same vein of Alabama RBs I hated Lacey.

I'll claim Russell Wilson being a starting quality QB in the NFL, though I feel like a lot of people liked him.

I predicting we'd take CJ Mosley, some random guy on here bet me something that we'd go with Clinton-Dix or Martin hands down.

Hated Mike Evans that draft, thought he'd be a bust and a half - and I don't think I'm the only one that should be coming clean about this one...

I really didn't like Jimmie Ward, I never got the hype.

It's early but I didn't like Melvin Gordon, I loved his tape the year before he came out but his last year at Wisconsin it looked like he put on muscle and as a result he lost quickness and I really didn't want him, and we were getting tied to him at the end of the first. So far he's been underwhelming.

Justin Hunter was another WR that I really liked, and he looks to be a whiff.

Edited October 18, 2016 by hn68wb4

[BmoreBird22]

2011, we all know who my favorite player in that class was. Not really surprised that one turned out. I actually thought Jimmy was a better pick than Peterson and so far the only thing standing between the two has been health, really.

Two guys I really loved from the 2012 draft were Alshon Jeffrey and Cordy Glenn. Wanted both for the Ravens. Was really disappointed that both got passed over, but I really did like Upshaw. I knew he'd be an elite run defender, but I expected more in the way of sacks... say 6-8. I was also totally right on RGIII. I had friends at school (mostly Redskins fans) saying RGIII was gonna be the future of the NFL and now he can hardly find a job.

In 2013, the four guys I REALLY wanted were Desmond Trufant, Tyler Eifert, DeAndre Hopkins, and Keenan Allen. I think the only one who wasn't highly heralded was Trufant, but I thought he was the second best corner in that draft class behind only Morris Claiborne. Really, really missed on Claiborne. I was also not a fan of Reid because I felt that he had down production away from Peterson and Claiborne. I was also really wrong on Frederick. I thought that he would be a reach, but it turns out he may not have been taken high enough.

In 2014, I was really high on Kyle Fuller and really low on Darqueze Dennard when a lot of people loved Dennard. Fuller is a weird one because for 10 weeks he'll play like a top 10 corner, but for the other six, he'll play poorly. He's so up and down. He's like an early Jimmy in that if he could find consistency, he'd be an excellent corner in this league. Loved the Mosley pick. In the second, I really wanted Allen Robinson and that was only heightened by me not knowing who Jernigan was. Right now, I'd be happy with either. I was not high on HHCD because I felt like Mosley made him better, but so far, HHCD is actually showing to be a pretty damn good corner. And I think this was Lacy's draft, but I hated him as a prospect. Hated Alabama running backs, but so far, if you take away his overweight season, he's done really well in the NFL. Will totally admit to being 10000% wrong on Marqise Lee. He's kinda made me sour on USC receivers.

In 2015, I really wanted DGB. I can't decide whether that's a miss or not. He's got such physical gifts, but he just seems like a real dense one. If he could ever get his head on straight, I think he could be great, but we'll see. I was also one of the very first ones calling for Byron Jones. I was very, very high on him and saw him as maybe a fourth or fifth rounder before he hit the combine and became a first rounder. That is one I pride myself on for picking out before anyone else on this board. I was also super high on Darby and thought he was a top 15 talent. If you saw him at FSU, he got challenged a lot with PJ Williams on the other side, but he rarely gave up receptions. He always found a way to contest. I was also one of the few around here that liked Fowler more than Vic Beasley. Gonna wait until the end of the season to see how that one plays out. I also said Beasley would be best as a 4-3 OLB, which wasn't met with much praise, but it seems Atlanta took notice.

Edited October 18, 2016 by BmoreBird22

[Edgar]

Everybody loved Jarvis Landry

[BmoreBird22]

Another one I want to throw out is Ezekiel Elliot. I was super high on Elliot and wanted him at 6 for the Ravens. 

He would have been a dynamite pick.

[JoeyFlex5]

On 10/16/2016 at 11:06 PM, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Wrong: 

Elam 

Brown

Thought Brandon Williams would suck(this was before I seriously watched tape).

Tandon Doss

Most recently Myles Jack. But he fell due to injury concerns. 

 

Right:

Ronnie Stanley. Was on his train since the beginning. He's looked good. 

Anthony Barr

Jimmy Smith

Kelechi Osemele

Courtney Upshaw sucking at rushing the passer

I too was right about Jimmy. He was my favorite target that year. I also hated the Upshaw pick and didn't see much pass rush potential either and I also didn't think we needed an olb at the time

[JoeyFlex5]

On 10/17/2016 at 0:24 AM, RaineV1 said:

I thought Jay Ajayi would be a top ten running back in the NFL. Granted, he did just have a two hundred some yard game, but that's how I expected him to play on a regular basis. Also, I loved Agholor but he's been pretty underwhelming in the NFL.

Oh man agholor looked amazing in college. I was a big time fan. What a disappointment he's been

[JoeyFlex5]

On 10/19/2016 at 8:32 AM, BmoreBird22 said:

Another one I want to throw out is Ezekiel Elliot. I was super high on Elliot and wanted him at 6 for the Ravens. 

He would have been a dynamite pick.

I was touting that one too. I was a big zeke fan but we definitely made the right move. I actually think we would've strongly considered him if he was there.

I also think we were going with Stanley even without the bong vid but we'll never know. 

[BmoreBird22]

4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I was touting that one too. I was a big zeke fan but we definitely made the right move. I actually think we would've strongly considered him if he was there.

I also think we were going with Stanley even without the bong vid but we'll never know. 

I honestly think Elliot is the pick if he were there. The Ravens want to remain committed to the run and he was probably the top ranked offensive player. Should have been if he wasn't. 

I'm really happy with Stanley, though 

[Jacquouille]

31 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I honestly think Elliot is the pick if he were there. The Ravens want to remain committed to the run and he was probably the top ranked offensive player. Should have been if he wasn't. 

I'm really happy with Stanley, though 

I mocked Zeke to us once and got like 10 negs. But I still think Stanley would have been the pick, 1) because elite OTs are extremely rare, 2) because we badly needed it even though we (the fans) didn't realize it at the time, 3) because worst case the 2017 RB class is coming.

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

I mocked Zeke to us once and got like 10 negs. But I still think Stanley would have been the pick, 1) because elite OTs are extremely rare, 2) because we badly needed it even though we (the fans) didn't realize it at the time, 3) because worst case the 2017 RB class is coming.

The Ravens are notorious for BPA at a position of need, so if they felt like Zeke was better than Stanley, they'd take him. Honestly, I feel like Zeke was a better prospect.

Remember, they tried to trade up for Ramsey, so they weren't deadset on a LT

[Clmraven]

Off the top of my head

worst: thought agholor would be a beast, so far not so great. Think I might be done with USC receivers for good.

 

Best: Allen Robinson, had him ranked as my #4 receiver in 2014, but he was my personal favorite in the whole class. Really saw him as a Dez Bryant type player, as much as I like Jernigan it still stings that we passed on Robinson.

[RaineV1]

On 10/17/2016 at 0:24 AM, RaineV1 said:

I thought Jay Ajayi would be a top ten running back in the NFL. Granted, he did just have a two hundred some yard game, but that's how I expected him to play on a regular basis. Also, I loved Agholor but he's been pretty underwhelming in the NFL.

I might have to take back my second thoughts on Ajayi. two 200 yard games in a row is pretty damn good.

[ravensnick]

On ‎10‎/‎21‎/‎2016 at 1:52 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

Oh man agholor looked amazing in college. I was a big time fan. What a disappointment he's been

 

By the time Agholor had come out, I'd already seen what Woods and Lee had done (not mention Lee looked much better than him in college). I was fully expecting a bust. He did look superb, but I mean cmon, USC WR curse.

[BmoreBird22]

On 10/24/2016 at 0:06 AM, RaineV1 said:

I might have to take back my second thoughts on Ajayi. two 200 yard games in a row is pretty damn good.

Two games doesn't make a career, or season.

[JoeyFlex5]

On 10/25/2016 at 8:37 PM, ravensnick said:

 

By the time Agholor had come out, I'd already seen what Woods and Lee had done (not mention Lee looked much better than him in college). I was fully expecting a bust. He did look superb, but I mean cmon, USC WR curse.

I always try to stick to "scout the player not the helmet". The only time I don't follow that is with Bama db's. 

[allblackraven]

39 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I always try to stick to "scout the player not the helmet". The only time I don't follow that is with Bama db's. 

HaHa and Collins aren't doing too bad

[Italian Raven]

Correct (for now):
2012
RGIII - always had the feeling he would bust, although I have to admit I'm really not in love with watching QBs tapes and didn't do much research back then
Dont'a Hightower - it was sad watching him go to NE
2013
Sharrif Floyd
Kiko Alonso (I don't really know if this is a good pick.. certainly not a bad one, talent-wise) - I always loved watching him shooting the gaps and making splash plays in the backfield
2014
Dee Ford - always thought he was a massive reach
Timmy Jernigan - one of my fav Ravens picks since I watch college  
Jarvis Landry - was very high on him.. I had some struggles saying who I liked better between him and OBJ.. maybe I liked the first one a tad better
DaQuan Jones - always loved his versatility alond the Dline.. thought he'd be a great 2 gapper and so far he played pretty good imo

Wrong:
2012
M.Kalil - I thought he would have close to no problem making the jump to the pros
Upshaw - thought he'd be a much better pass-rusher
Frank Alexander - sure, you can't expect much from a 4th rounder but I would have overdrafted him.. let's say by one good round
2013
Jarvis Jones - I had always seen him as a Clowney kind of player and thought he'd make a much bigger impact
Matt Elam - watching tapes he even desplayed some good man coverage skills.. I thought he'd be by far the best S in the draft because of his all-around versatility 
Kevin Minter - I had much higher expectations for him
DJ Swearinger - I was in love with his competitiveness.. the guy was naaasty in SC
Damontre Moore and Sam Montgomery - like Alexander, I thought they'd be some day 2/early3 steals
Alex Okafor - with Swearinger, probably my favourite player in the draft
2014
Anthony Barr - I wasn't 100% sold on him.. I thought he was more likely to bust than burst
Dominique Easley - I thought he'd be the ultimate DT.. like with Alonso I can't decide whether to seriously list him between my misses or not
Xavier Su'a Filo
Jaylen Watkins, Ka'deem Carey and TJ Jones were my favourite mid-late picks.. none showed up

[usmccharles]

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 4:47 AM, BmoreBird22 said:

I honestly think Elliot is the pick if he were there. The Ravens want to remain committed to the run and he was probably the top ranked offensive player. Should have been if he wasn't. 

I'm really happy with Stanley, though 

I would of been more than  OK with zeke at 6, but it's scary to think about how bad our line would be without Stanley, we'll we are seeing that.  

I'm pretty sure I started the laqaun treadwell thing with my whole 'judge tread' campaign.  In all fairness,  this the first year I've been into the college prospects.  

was big on ngakoue and jakeem grant.  Didn't like Bosa.  

[BmoreBird22]

7 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I would of been more than  OK with zeke at 6, but it's scary to think about how bad our line would be without Stanley, we'll we are seeing that.  

I'm pretty sure I started the laqaun treadwell thing with my whole 'judge tread' campaign.  In all fairness,  this the first year I've been into the college prospects.  

was big on ngakoue and jakeem grant.  Didn't like Bosa.  

To be fair on Treadwell, EVERYONE was high on him before the draft and combine rolled around. There were few people who didn't think he'd go top 10 during the season.

I was not big on Ngakoue and with Bosa, I thought he had a low ceiling, but thought he'd be an awesome pro, just not this 15 sack type guy.

[ravefan52]

Bosa was easily my no. 1 player last year. Had Gurley and Marcus Peters top 5. If you knew what Manziel was like off the field at A&M you knew he'd never be able to lead an NFL team. I didn't like him on the field either. 

Had Gabe Jackson as a top 32 player. Also liked Trufant and Tuitt more than most. I know it's very early and everyone knew he was going to need development, but I thought Correa was more of a 4th rounder.

I missed pretty bad on Jarvis Jones, Cordarrelle Patterson, Marqise Lee, Arthur Brown and Elam (maybe).

I think I struggle most with scouting WR's, just so hit or miss. I thought Kevin White and Devante Parker would be immediate playmakers, though we'll see how they develop. Didn't think Mike Evans would be that good, but he did have a ton of drops last season. Not sure if he's cleaned that up this year. My biggest strength is easily DL, then CB.

[rmw10]

1 hour ago, ravefan52 said:

Bosa was easily my no. 1 player last year. Had Gurley and Marcus Peters top 5. If you knew what Manziel was like off the field at A&M you knew he'd never be able to lead an NFL team. I didn't like him on the field either. 

Had Gabe Jackson as a top 32 player. Also liked Trufant and Tuitt more than most. I know it's very early and everyone knew he was going to need development, but I thought Correa was more of a 4th rounder.

I missed pretty bad on Jarvis Jones, Cordarrelle Patterson, Marqise Lee, Arthur Brown and Elam (maybe).

I think I struggle most with scouting WR's, just so hit or miss. I thought Kevin White and Devante Parker would be immediate playmakers, though we'll see how they develop. Didn't think Mike Evans would be that good, but he did have a ton of drops last season. Not sure if he's cleaned that up this year. My biggest strength is easily DL, then CB.

I'm with you here.  I was all aboard the Odell Beckham train in 2014, having him as my #1 WR over Watkins at a point, after a steady climb.  However, in the same draft, I thought Marqise Lee and Cody Latimer were going to be good, while I wasn't sold on Allen Robinson or Kelvin Benjamin, both of whom are doing pretty well overall, at least compared to what I thought they were going to be.  WR is definitely an area of struggle for me.