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[Sami84]

7 minutes ago, January J said:

You can keep bashing the perriman pick all you want. He's 5 games into his career and although hes had a few drops hes also made some great catches. In a year or two that kid is going to be a great receiver. Mark my words.

 

can i point something out..i have said on many occasions that i WANT to be wrong on certain picks. Believe me i'd prefer to be wrong EVERY single time regarding guys who i considered to be busts in the making

 

and that includes perriman.

 

havent seen it yet though, hopefully on sunday he'll show something new.

[VermontRaven]

9 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I'm shocked people still try to debate with Sami... 

Good call.  I admit I have been guilty of this.  I shall refrain.  Maybe if we just ignore him, he will go away...or he lives up to his word and disappears for a month after we beat the Giants!

[jboy19]

Honesty there's nothing that terrible about what Sami does. He tends to overreact and be negative, but he generally has some level of reasoning behind what he says. I don't know all his predraft opinions and how much of what he says is hindsight or not. I definitely disagree with his opinions most of the time and many times they are unhelpful/based on incorrect information, but at least he's better than wizard or winchester. 

[January J]

33 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

can i point something out..i have said on many occasions that i WANT to be wrong on certain picks. Believe me i'd prefer to be wrong EVERY single time regarding guys who i considered to be busts in the making

 

and that includes perriman.

 

havent seen it yet though, hopefully on sunday he'll show something new.

I hear you. As much as i sometimes disagree with them atleast you stick by your opinions.  And like you said- atleast you WANT our guys to succeed unlike some other guys on here who would rather us fail so he can gloat about his wizardry.

Edited October 14, 2016 by January J

[BmoreBird22]

16 hours ago, flynismo said:

Oh well, that settles it then. Sami says he's going to be a bust, so that's as good as done.

The awkward thing here is twofold. 1. Kindle was off the roster before Sami joined this site, meaning he can say what ever.

2. Mercilus played two years at the same time as Kindle, but played sparingly for those two years, meaning Kindle wouldn't draw a comparison to Kindle. It'd be the other way around.

[52520Andrew]

17 hours ago, RavensFanMania said:

I have to to say I like that screen name....Lost In Ravens Mania

Too bad we don't have sigs anymore because that would be some great material

[Sami84]

15 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The awkward thing here is twofold. 1. Kindle was off the roster before Sami joined this site, meaning he can say what ever.

2. Mercilus played two years at the same time as Kindle, but played sparingly for those two years, meaning Kindle wouldn't draw a comparison to Kindle. It'd be the other way around.

 

i already explained those two points :/

[OUravensfan]

I get annoyed with Flacco bashing sometimes but I still love this forum, better than Reddit and RSR, and that includes @wizard1 and @Sami84Wizard is pretty funny honestly 

Edited October 14, 2016 by OUravensfan

[rmcjacket23]

22 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

i already explained those two points :/

Well, no, you basically just said you were having a conversation with your TV set about it. How exactly do you prove that?

That's the point. Literally anybody can say "I didn't like this player back then" when there's absolutely no way for you to verify whether it was actually said or not. 

 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

If Sami was GM given his Flacco hate he'd probably also let him go, and the only rookie the past few years I'd honestly consider over Flacco is Carr, and even then I'd honestly take Flacco over him at this current moment(maybe not in the future, I think the guy is good enough to be a good postseason QB). So we'd probably be stuck in franchise oblivion, given that it'd be 2013... And the fans would pressure him to take a QB given that he thinks the fans have power so we'd probably have Geno Smith for one year, which would suck hard. Then in 2014 he might take Derek Carr, which is okay, but that's three years in total of missing the postseason in total rebuilds during this process he most likely missed rounds 4-7 in hilarious fashion. While Flacco in turn probably goes to the cardinals who still draft John Brown and pick up Veldheer and probably win a SB and get Fitz a ring since Flacco is worlds better than Palmer is right now. In addition to this, Harbaugh probably gets a job elsewhere and does a lot better there as well. 

 

I'll stick with Ozzie thank you. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Moreover, how do we resign all these elite players? After their rookie contracts we're kind of screwed. Think about it. Only one we'd probably be able to keep is Gronk. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Further Moreover, he'd probably try to persue high name free agents in the offseason to try and fix the team when he realizes the drafting isn't going too well and as many teams have proved, you can't build a team in free agency(the Seahawks being an exception not the norm).

 

So bad drafting in the later rounds + inability to retain a significant amount of talent there + pursuing highly regarded free agents in hopes of fixing the team=.... Dan Snyder... 

 

 

Ozzie never leave

[rmcjacket23]

Decided to vet this a little bit based on what Sami has actually SAID on these boards. Here are some notables (and I stopped reading after awhile)...

2014:

Highly advocated using a 3rd round pick on CJ Fiedorowicz

Later advocated that we draft Jace Amaro or Eric Ebron, as well as having a high desire to resign both Daryl Smith and Eugene Monroe. Went as far as to guarantee that Ebron would be available for us to pick at #14 (was drafted #10). Was also very high on Arthur Brown.

Then flipped again and guaranteed that Ha Ha Clinton Dix would be our 1st round pick. 

Consistently referenced Monroe as an elite LT in 2014 and said he was "only just entering his prime". Also thought Brandon Williams was a bad pick (said this multiple times). Said he expected Kapron Lewis Moore to be significantly better than Williams.

I stopped after just that year, but I'm sure there's still plenty more bulletin board material to be had in future years.

[Sami84]

2 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Well, no, you basically just said you were having a conversation with your TV set about it. How exactly do you prove that?

That's the point. Literally anybody can say "I didn't like this player back then" when there's absolutely no way for you to verify whether it was actually said or not. 

 

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urr i said i didnt like kindle and later on the BEST way i could describe him..having being able to look back is a poor mans whitney mercilus. 

[Sami84]

40 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Decided to vet this a little bit based on what Sami has actually SAID on these boards. Here are some notables (and I stopped reading after awhile)...

2014:

Highly advocated using a 3rd round pick on CJ Fiedorowicz

Later advocated that we draft Jace Amaro or Eric Ebron, as well as having a high desire to resign both Daryl Smith and Eugene Monroe. Went as far as to guarantee that Ebron would be available for us to pick at #14 (was drafted #10). Was also very high on Arthur Brown.

Then flipped again and guaranteed that Ha Ha Clinton Dix would be our 1st round pick. 

Consistently referenced Monroe as an elite LT in 2014 and said he was "only just entering his prime". Also thought Brandon Williams was a bad pick (said this multiple times). Said he expected Kapron Lewis Moore to be significantly better than Williams.

I stopped after just that year, but I'm sure there's still plenty more bulletin board material to be had in future years.

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Monroe was an elite tackle before he got injured and never seemed to care anymore. btw im not a huge brandon williams fan still. He's a great run stuffer but might be the worst pass rushing nose tackle around. Also KLM before his 3 massive injuries, yes i think he could have amounted to something.

I was pretty sure we'd pick HA HA it didnt mean i liked him. 

[Sami84]

oh..btw..kelly greg > brandon williams

[perryhall]

Hello Board

I just signed up but i ve looked at this forum for years.  Everyone is just sharing opinions.  Without a doubt,Sami 84 has excellent insights. Right far more than wrong and looks at somethings that others don t ie one comment he made recently was about certain starting players are also on special teams and how that might affect their play. I thought the same when I saw Zach Orr ,imho,our best player on defense ,also playing on special teams.  Thoughts on that?

[rmcjacket23]

47 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

Monroe was an elite tackle before he got injured and never seemed to care anymore. btw im not a huge brandon williams fan still. He's a great run stuffer but might be the worst pass rushing nose tackle around. Also KLM before his 3 massive injuries, yes i think he could have amounted to something.

I was pretty sure we'd pick HA HA it didnt mean i liked him. 

Cool. You advocated for drafting some players that aren't very good here or elsewhere, players that had massive injury concerns and inevitably are now out of the league, and you whiffed on opinions on several players we drafted. And you guaranteed certain players would be here, and they are not.

If you don't give the FO the luxury of a free pass because somebody gets injured, you surely aren't going to get one either. Since you think you can do better, you have to own up to the bad one's too... not just mention the good one's and pray nobody calls you out on the bad one's. 

 

[Sami84]

On 3/13/2014 at 3:43 PM, fistfullwales said:

don't want steve smith

IM going to be frank here to all the newbs. Steve Smith is a better reciever than mason and boldin in all their peaks. The guy is a great route runner, great hands and the toughest (guy) ever. Think of him as the stone cold steve austin of WR's

 

On 3/12/2014 at 11:47 PM, 1/28/01 said:

How are we not a better team with JJ? Please, do tell.

my point is he isnt that good. Hes an average receiver but a great returner. guess what..they have sell by dates and its usualy 30

 

Stop being in denial. We have all complained about our receiving core being average and jones is the epitome of that

 

 

 

The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

in Ravens Talk

Posted May 9, 2014 · Edited May 9, 2014 by Sami84 · Report post

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Cj Mosely was BPA. Actualy if any of you remember daryl smith coming out of college thats who i compare him to. Smith became a coverage monster as he developed. Oh and in my eyes Daryl Smith has been a pro bowler for years. Just with the wrong team.

 

btw every team has its weakpoint. FOr us it probably will be free safety. I predict we pick up a RT or WR in this round.

 

None of the free safeties in this draft impress me much

 

 

 

 

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Cool. You advocated for drafting some players that aren't very good here or elsewhere, players that had massive injury concerns and inevitably are now out of the league, and you whiffed on opinions on several players we drafted. And you guaranteed certain players would be here, and they are not.

If you don't give the FO the luxury of a free pass because somebody gets injured, you surely aren't going to get one either. Since you think you can do better, you have to own up to the bad one's too... not just mention the good one's and pray nobody calls you out on the bad one's. 

 

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like who? Amaro and Cj the Te's? and who else? THat was if we went the TE route. Aside from that..who?

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

like who? Amaro and Cj the Te's? and who else? THat was if we went the TE route. Aside from that..who?

Well beyond the fact that you guaranteed certain players would be here, you were very much pro resigning Eugene Monroe, and very much against drafting Brandon Williams. And you were pro going the TE route. If you were the GM of this team, one or more of those guys would be on this roster, because that's who you have would taken. That's the point. 

And remember... I only looked at one year. 

The Eugene Monroe thing is particularly laughable, because there is literally nobody who could even vaguely describe any part of his career as "elite" at LT. That includes his time in Jacksonville and his time here. I remember PFF highest grade on Monroe in an individual season was never top 5 I don't believe. 

Its called tossing around the "elite" word too frequently, and using it in places it doesn't belong in order to make your decision better.

If you were running things, you still would have spent a boat load of money on Monroe, you would have drafted Eric Ebron in the 1st round and probably another TE in the 3rd round, and you wouldn't have drafted Brandon Williams. You still would by trying to salvage the career of Arthur Brown, who you were a BIG fan of.

In part 2 of this series, I'll show everybody about your undying love for Maxx Williams, identifying him as a future stud. I'm sure the audience will find the hypocrisy of calling Perriman a bust but Maxx not quite amusing...

[Sami84]

9 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Well beyond the fact that you guaranteed certain players would be here, you were very much pro resigning Eugene Monroe, and very much against drafting Brandon Williams. And you were pro going the TE route. If you were the GM of this team, one or more of those guys would be on this roster, because that's who you have would taken. That's the point. 

And remember... I only looked at one year. 

The Eugene Monroe thing is particularly laughable, because there is literally nobody who could even vaguely describe any part of his career as "elite" at LT. That includes his time in Jacksonville and his time here. I remember PFF highest grade on Monroe in an individual season was never top 5 I don't believe. 

Its called tossing around the "elite" word too frequently, and using it in places it doesn't belong in order to make your decision better.

If you were running things, you still would have spent a boat load of money on Monroe, you would have drafted Eric Ebron in the 1st round and probably another TE in the 3rd round, and you wouldn't have drafted Brandon Williams. You still would by trying to salvage the career of Arthur Brown, who you were a BIG fan of.

In part 2 of this series, I'll show everybody about your undying love for Maxx Williams, identifying him as a future stud. I'm sure the audience will find the hypocrisy of calling Perriman a bust but Maxx not quite amusing...

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btw i didnt want to draft ebron. I SAID He would probably be there when we picked. He went a lot earlier than most expected.

As for maxx..i blame the coaching staff. He's a really good player.. hes just not being used.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, Sami84 said:

btw i didnt want to draft ebron. I SAID He would probably be there when we picked. He went a lot earlier than most expected.

As for maxx..i blame the coaching staff. He's a really good player.. hes just not being used.

No actually you said you liked Ebron as well and were happy with that choice.

Coaches don't choose not to use good players. Doesn't actually happen in real life.

[Sami84]

also if you dig deep into my mock drafts you'll see who i really wanted.

 

players who are doing really well now. I've got a lot more right than the FO did with their picks.

[DenverRaven]

3 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

I get annoyed with Flacco bashing sometimes but I still love this forum, better than Reddit and RSR, and that includes @wizard1 and @Sami84Wizard is pretty funny honestly 

Reddit is full of whiny kids. There's some bashers over here, but they can mostly form opinions, and have a little bit more perspective than on /r/ravens

[DenverRaven]

23 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

also if you dig deep into my mock drafts you'll see who i really wanted.

 

players who are doing really well now. I've got a lot more right than the FO did with their picks.

Well, you should probably send your resumé over to 1 Winning Dr.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

7 minutes ago, DenverRaven said:

Well, you should probably send your resumé over to 1 Winning Dr.

They'd laugh at him hysterically. 

[BmoreBird22]

33 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

also if you dig deep into my mock drafts you'll see who i really wanted.

 

players who are doing really well now. I've got a lot more right than the FO did with their picks.

Here's the thing: 

Many, if not all, of us know that guys like Mack, Donald, OBJ, etc would be excellent players and would be amazing pros. That's not impressive.

It's impressive when you can say that AB will be the best receiver in the league, Tom Brady will set records and win four Super Bowls, Donald Driver will be a GB legend, etc.  

When you can do that consistently, you can brag.

[rmcjacket23]

39 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

also if you dig deep into my mock drafts you'll see who i really wanted.

 

players who are doing really well now. I've got a lot more right than the FO did with their picks.

Yeah but you're mock drafts are consistently changing. If I just do like 50 mock drafts each year, all I have to do is pick out the one that actually hit, and say "hey look guys I predicted the player we pick".

Its like throwing darts at a dartboard. You'll eventually hit the bullseye if you throw enough darts at the board. You don't even need to be good at it. 

[wizard1]

4 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

I get annoyed with Flacco bashing sometimes but I still love this forum, better than Reddit and RSR, and that includes @wizard1 and @Sami84Wizard is pretty funny honestly 

I think that's a back-handed compliment but laughing is good for the spirit. It's Miller Time