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[News] Eisenberg: Pressure On For Ravens Offense To Live Up To Its Potential

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Theres ways to protect Joe besides just the blocking of the front line. Theres adding a tight end on the left to help block, theres moving the pocket, theres roll outs, with a good run game theres play action, quick hits, better out routes, all kinds of things Trestman ignored.

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Theres ways to protect Joe besides just the blocking of the front line. Theres adding a tight end on the left to help block, theres moving the pocket, theres roll outs, with a good run game theres play action, quick hits, better out routes, all kinds of things Trestman ignored.

Agree but even at it's basic the OL failed. Ok, we didn't have our starters but everyone knows it's next man up, if that's our OL with that philosophy then we are screwed. If the OL doesn't play better then forget about the O getting better. It all starts with the protection.

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The manner in which we achieved the 3-0 start and taking into consideration the quality opposition we faced and even more so now that we lost back to back home games against garbage teams means the Ravens need to prepare 100% for 2017. 3-2 means nothing at this point. We could easily be 0-5. At the beginning of the season I predicted 7-9 and after the 3-0 start I bulged on my prediction and bumped them up to 8-8. Now 6-10 is the most likely scenario. Even if we would have started 5-0, I still had doubts this team was gonna win more than 8 games. What scares me the most is that this team is relatively healthy in comparison to the past 2 seasons. Wait till the injury bug hits and we are forced to play our dreadful backups. We are already getting a taste of it with the OL patch work, wait till the secondary gets decimated. We will become the All Pro Factory of the NFL once again.

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Would someone with a connection to John Eisenberg please tell him to go back and look at the deep pass that he claims Breshad Perriman "dropped" early in the game and notice the defender yanking his right shoulder down at the last second before the ball came down?
My gripe with it is that this is the second or third article where he takes the time to specifically mention that play and yet, he is dead wrong about it being a dropped pass. Just because the referee did not call it a pass interference or defensive holding does not necessarily mean that he dropped it.
There are much more glaring problems with this offense than one particular "dropped" pass anyway. At least be accurate about it if you're going to jump on a guy for a particular play over and over again in your articles!

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This team is lifeless. There are no stars. Flacco is an overpaid joke. Offense getting booed off the field at home again. It's the same old story. Our team has been in a downward spiral since the Super Bowl. There is no light here - they need to blow this up and start over. We aren't building around anything. There are no real game breakers on this team.

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34 minutes ago, sami said:

Theres ways to protect Joe besides just the blocking of the front line. Theres adding a tight end on the left to help block, theres moving the pocket, theres roll outs, with a good run game theres play action, quick hits, better out routes, all kinds of things Trestman ignored.

Well said Sami

Marty's success hinges on his o-line and what he can do to help them.

Unrealistic to expect dramatic changes quickly but if our o-line hadn't struggled the last 2 weeks, we could easily be 5-0

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As long as Flacco is going to continue to be a hybrid (Drew Bledsoe x a leaning tower of Pizza) in the pocket- expect much of the same. Please prove me wrong.

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22 minutes ago, PlayLikeARaven52 said:

Would someone with a connection to John Eisenberg please tell him to go back and look at the deep pass that he claims Breshad Perriman "dropped" early in the game and notice the defender yanking his right shoulder down at the last second before the ball came down?
My gripe with it is that this is the second or third article where he takes the time to specifically mention that play and yet, he is dead wrong about it being a dropped pass. Just because the referee did not call it a pass interference or defensive holding does not necessarily mean that he dropped it.
There are much more glaring problems with this offense than one particular "dropped" pass anyway. At least be accurate about it if you're going to jump on a guy for a particular play over and over again in your articles!

Haven't seen the replay but did look odd how he stretched out one arm completely and the other shortly after

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I would like to know when this is going to fall on Harbaugh. Yes he has an offensive Coordinator BUT you do NOT Abdicate the task of running the offense to him, you DELEGATE, the difference being, you stay involved helping the OC achieve success. If I am the Head Coach, I am participating in the game plan, the plays we are going to run and if the team is going bad, I will set out exactly what I want from the segment that is under performing.

Harbaugh acts like he stands back and lets something fail and then throws the Coordinator under the BUS. I would not work for someone like that and I do not believe that is solid leadership characteristics....

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All I know is Marty better bring balance. No more 50 passes a game, getting Joe killed. Balance run the damn ball 25-30x a game and throw it 35x like a successful Ravens offense looks like.

And We need to Get a pass Rush.. nobody is talking about it but 1 sack last 2 weeks. Activiate Judon, jesus... ww need more sacks, Pees send a couple more blitzes

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Keep Joe in a pistol or shotgun position with Juice by his side to chip edge rushers and he can slide out and catch a couple and do some damage in the open field! Just standing in the pocket doesn't work in this division look at Big Bens medical record broken nose courtesy of the Ravens and he still won! We're not loosing by much just a couple plays and we still mite be undefeated! Everyone learning from their mistakes and this mite be what is needed for a new jump start across the board! These are the weeks that's some teams build from and the Ravens haven't hit their stride yet but it's coming! WE THE BEST! GO RAVENS AND INDIANS! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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when ever the ravens abandon the run they always lose or struggle mighty in any game, no matter who the OC is.

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Feel the NY road trip will actually be a good thing. They need change of scenery. Since our new OC was already on the coaching staff it's not a HUGE adjustment as it would be if we hired outside the Ravens Organization.

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This team is lifeless. There are no stars. Flacco is an overpaid joke. Offense getting booed off the field at home again. It's the same old story. Our team has been in a downward spiral since the Super Bowl. There is no light here - they need to blow this up and start over. We aren't building around anything. There are no real game breakers on this team.

Please leave with those comments.

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  59 minutes ago, sami said:

Theres ways to protect Joe besides just the blocking of the front line. Theres adding a tight end on the left to help block, theres moving the pocket, theres roll outs, with a good run game theres play action, quick hits, better out routes, all kinds of things Trestman ignored.

Agree but even at it's basic the OL failed. Ok, we didn't have our starters but everyone knows it's next man up, if that's our OL with that philosophy then we are screwed. If the OL doesn't play better then forget about the O getting better. It all starts with the protection.

This is typical in the NFL. It's highly uncommon to have starter potential sitting on your bench. They will be somewhere else starting for another team getting paid good money. That's the nature of the game.

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The manner in which we achieved the 3-0 start and taking into consideration the quality opposition we faced and even more so now that we lost back to back home games against garbage teams means the Ravens need to prepare 100% for 2017. 3-2 means nothing at this point. We could easily be 0-5. At the beginning of the season I predicted 7-9 and after the 3-0 start I bulged on my prediction and bumped them up to 8-8. Now 6-10 is the most likely scenario. Even if we would have started 5-0, I still had doubts this team was gonna win more than 8 games. What scares me the most is that this team is relatively healthy in comparison to the past 2 seasons. Wait till the injury bug hits and we are forced to play our dreadful backups. We are already getting a taste of it with the OL patch work, wait till the secondary gets decimated. We will become the All Pro Factory of the NFL once again.

This doesn't make any sense. If any team has to start their backups if not all they'll be in the same predicament. I don't understand what your argument is. Last year, our entire offense with the exception of two players where gone. Almost all our CB's where down. I think its a given that the team wasn't going to be great. Especially with an unbalanced OC calling plays. Our oline is young on the left side and we're banged up. What do you expect? Give them credit for toughing out the 3 wins. Honestly, the piss poor play calling on offense is the reason we lost the last two games because offense had the ball. You can see it all over the offense face. Couldn't get in field goal range on the Oak are you kidding? With a poor run defense and we're about 15 yards away? PA, run and work the sidelines. Nope, lets call plays with passes in the middle of the field. Trestman play calling handcuffed our offense and now that he's gone, we'll see just how good we can be. West broke runs on that hurt oline. Your argument about the injury bug holds no weight because that's any team that looses their star players.

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kubiak agreed to come here if he was able to bring his assistants with him. he brought his oc whom he moved to qb coach and i believe he brought the te and either the rb or wr coach. when he went to denver he took them all with him. when harbs loses a coord or position coach he rushes to replace them. maybe he needs to reevaluate some of these hires of his. o-line (juan castillo) has struggled before and after kubiak and the receivers (jim hostler, bobby engram) have always struggled with drops and seperation aside from sss and bolden. just something else to consider as a possible issue

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I am 54 years old and have been watching football for more that half of my life$0 years. I know there can be integrity lost within the game at times and I believe this is a given and comes with any sport? However, I have watched a terrible display of coaching when it comes to our offense. It seemed to me Mark did what he did intentionally! I realize that everything is not on him and there where plenty of opportunities that the Ravens had slip through their hands. Nevertheless, I fail to understand how poorly ranked defenses gave use such a hard time ? Can our receivers get separation? Are they that weak? Was the talent more superior to our own? It is hard to figure that even in the 3 wins our offensive store has been closed down! Man I cant wait to see what happens next. I watched the game last Sunday and it was like being in a bad dream! It is rather hard to understand how the whole game played out. The most bewildering thing laid with no more running after a tremendous start? What was Marks thinking on this one?It seems kind of shady to me and it seemed like sabotage. I have dealt with many people who like to be in charge being the head man per say. Could it be Mark has inspiration to coach else where? I realize everything is not on Mark however, it seems to me he had no common sense! John as a die hard Raven fan thanks for the change it was seriously needed and I have no doubt that the ball and chain will no longer be a piece of hard ware weighing us down. I believe we will fly as Ravens are meant to do?

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The pressure is on for the FO to draft some talent.

The game day inactives are basically the current years draft card.

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it's amazing to me how any team could lose focus in this league in any game,but every mistake thats been made is from lack of focus on the task at hand,thats on the HC.and in a copycat league,why not look at how other teams are getting guys wide open downfield and look no further than a team in our own division that wer'e built alot like and other teams mentioned above,this team regardless of whose coaching the offense lacks an unpredictable scheme and focus.

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Offense is over-hyped.

No legit #1 WR (SSS is a legit #1 but he's on his last leg - literally - wish we had him in his prime). Wallace is a one trick pony which explains why 3 teams let him go. Pitta's had 2 MAJOR hip surgeries (career ending types). West is on his 3rd team and is fumble prone.

While this offense is good enough to win if all things go well, it's not and will never be a 30 point a game offense. Not until we get a true #1 WR and a game-breaking RB.

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kubiak agreed to come here if he was able to bring his assistants with him. he brought his oc whom he moved to qb coach and i believe he brought the te and either the rb or wr coach. when he went to denver he took them all with him. when harbs loses a coord or position coach he rushes to replace them. maybe he needs to reevaluate some of these hires of his. o-line (juan castillo) has struggled before and after kubiak and the receivers (jim hostler, bobby engram) have always struggled with drops and seperation aside from sss and bolden. just something else to consider as a possible issue

You don't remember the Boldin drop in the endzone vs. Pitt to win that post season game do you?

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I'm optimistic the O will perform better wo Trestman's leadership and that gives us a good chance to steal 2 from the New Yorkers and hit the bye week at 5-2 and on the upswing heading into divisional play.

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Theres ways to protect Joe besides just the blocking of the front line. Theres adding a tight end on the left to help block, theres moving the pocket, theres roll outs, with a good run game theres play action, quick hits, better out routes, all kinds of things Trestman ignored.

Sami, you left out one, tiny little thing. With your perfect response, I'll add it for you, as I should since there was nothing left for you to say.

[Mike drop]

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The manner in which we achieved the 3-0 start and taking into consideration the quality opposition we faced and even more so now that we lost back to back home games against garbage teams means the Ravens need to prepare 100% for 2017. 3-2 means nothing at this point. We could easily be 0-5. At the beginning of the season I predicted 7-9 and after the 3-0 start I bulged on my prediction and bumped them up to 8-8. Now 6-10 is the most likely scenario. Even if we would have started 5-0, I still had doubts this team was gonna win more than 8 games. What scares me the most is that this team is relatively healthy in comparison to the past 2 seasons. Wait till the injury bug hits and we are forced to play our dreadful backups. We are already getting a taste of it with the OL patch work, wait till the secondary gets decimated. We will become the All Pro Factory of the NFL once again.

wow, not giving our defense any credit are you? Seems like they can keep us pretty much in any game, and if the offense can somehow get going, we will still be a better than average team. Look around the league, I really don't see any team out there who is really scary-dominant, I see a whole lot of teams floating along at basically .500. Yeah, you can claim Vikes, Pats, Squealers...none of them seem unbeatable from where i'm standing. Good, but not crushingly great like you usually see a few teams by this time of year.

Sounds like you had absolutely no faith in this team before the season even began. I don't see what indication that the Raven's would end up with a losing record, other than pure spite and/or mis-judging the talent level the Raven's possess. Which we do have some very talented players, they simply need to play better than they have so far this season. 6-10? Really? There's plenty to be optimistic about this team, thankfully most Raven's fan's have a more positive opinion and base said opinion in reality and not on doom and gloom fantasies. Haters gonna hate.

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  2 hours ago, ibleedpurpleandblack said:
  2 hours ago, sami said:

Theres ways to protect Joe besides just the blocking of the front line. Theres adding a tight end on the left to help block, theres moving the pocket, theres roll outs, with a good run game theres play action, quick hits, better out routes, all kinds of things Trestman ignored.

Agree but even at it's basic the OL failed. Ok, we didn't have our starters but everyone knows it's next man up, if that's our OL with that philosophy then we are screwed. If the OL doesn't play better then forget about the O getting better. It all starts with the protection.

This is typical in the NFL. It's highly uncommon to have starter potential sitting on your bench. They will be somewhere else starting for another team getting paid good money. That's the nature of the game.

Thank you, voice of reason...This is true of all 32 teams, you may get lucky and have a few really great back-ups, but on the whole the true talent is starting for somebody...

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3 hours ago, Space11jams said:
4 hours ago, Shaky End of the Quarter said:

The manner in which we achieved the 3-0 start and taking into consideration the quality opposition we faced and even more so now that we lost back to back home games against garbage teams means the Ravens need to prepare 100% for 2017. 3-2 means nothing at this point. We could easily be 0-5. At the beginning of the season I predicted 7-9 and after the 3-0 start I bulged on my prediction and bumped them up to 8-8. Now 6-10 is the most likely scenario. Even if we would have started 5-0, I still had doubts this team was gonna win more than 8 games. What scares me the most is that this team is relatively healthy in comparison to the past 2 seasons. Wait till the injury bug hits and we are forced to play our dreadful backups. We are already getting a taste of it with the OL patch work, wait till the secondary gets decimated. We will become the All Pro Factory of the NFL once again.

This doesn't make any sense. If any team has to start their backups if not all they'll be in the same predicament. I don't understand what your argument is. Last year, our entire offense with the exception of two players where gone. Almost all our CB's where down. I think its a given that the team wasn't going to be great. Especially with an unbalanced OC calling plays. Our oline is young on the left side and we're banged up. What do you expect? Give them credit for toughing out the 3 wins. Honestly, the piss poor play calling on offense is the reason we lost the last two games because offense had the ball. You can see it all over the offense face. Couldn't get in field goal range on the Oak are you kidding? With a poor run defense and we're about 15 yards away? PA, run and work the sidelines. Nope, lets call plays with passes in the middle of the field. Trestman play calling handcuffed our offense and now that he's gone, we'll see just how good we can be. West broke runs on that hurt oline. Your argument about the injury bug holds no weight because that's any team that looses their star players.

I could not agree more! You seem to take the words right out of my mouth? His play calling was purely crap. It absolutely stank!!!! If you noticed he called the same play at the end of oakland game Pass to the middle? Aikens got crushed as if the dbs knew the play, same thing Sunday same play this time it was Wallace getting crushed as if the dbs knew what was coming? Same exact play?

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Feel the NY road trip will actually be a good thing. They need change of scenery. Since our new OC was already on the coaching staff it's not a HUGE adjustment as it would be if we hired outside the Ravens Organization.

I agree.

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  1 hour ago, ibleedpurpleandblack said:
  1 hour ago, sami said:

Theres ways to protect Joe besides just the blocking of the front line. Theres adding a tight end on the left to help block, theres moving the pocket, theres roll outs, with a good run game theres play action, quick hits, better out routes, all kinds of things Trestman ignored.

Agree but even at it's basic the OL failed. Ok, we didn't have our starters but everyone knows it's next man up, if that's our OL with that philosophy then we are screwed. If the OL doesn't play better then forget about the O getting better. It all starts with the protection.

This is typical in the NFL. It's highly uncommon to have starter potential sitting on your bench. They will be somewhere else starting for another team getting paid good money. That's the nature of the game.

cant remember who was on the right side on Sundays game but he was getting his but chewed off by the defense! He could not hold the rush on what we believed to be an inferior squad?

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