If you could pick anyone?

[acosta2277]

The title says it all. If you could pick one guy from this draft to go to the ravens, who would it be?

 

I would go with Jabrill Peppers from Michigan. He is listed as a strong safety or a linebacker even. But if you have watched Michigan in the past two years you know that, that is not the case. His position is everything. He is a baller, I have watched this kid since he was a freshman in high school and he has been a stud on every field he has stepped foot on. He can play corner, safety, linebacker, wide receiver, running back, kick returner, punt returner, there is literally no where he cannot play. He could help us in more ways on defense than any other player. (NFL or college) He is in my opinion the best athlete and playmaker in the draft. And if you haven't seen him play, I suggest watching Michigan, because he never leaves the field.

[rmw10]

Myles Garrett. Best player in this draft for me, bar none. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Myles Garrett. Best player in this draft for me, bar none. 

seconded. He's the pass rusher Baltimore needs but not the one it can get.

[GrimCoconut]

14 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Myles Garrett. Best player in this draft for me, bar none. 

I've been riding his train since last season. This guy will be a monster in the NFL and I'm convinced that we should trade for him despite the cost. Yes, I'd even sacrifice our first three picks for this guy and a first next year. I liked Bosa but he was never the guaranteed homerun that I see here. This guy will solve a lot of our defensive problems imo. 

[jboy19]

Myles Garrett is an unbelievable talent. I like him a lot more than I liked Clowney, Fowler, Bosa or any of the other recent edge players. He reminds me of a faster, more athletic Justin Houston. 

[PurpleCity5]

The only guy who I would take over a super-star WR is Myles Garrett. Simple as that. 

[RaineV1]

For me it'd be a toss up between Garrett and Malik McDowell. Both would be a great improvement in our passrush.

[Davesta]

Can we trade the farm for Garrett? Didn't we try to move up for Mack? 

[BmoreBird22]

Garrett

[Cillmatic]

On October 13, 2016 at 5:07 AM, Davesta said:

Can we trade the farm for Garrett? Didn't we try to move up for Mack? 

Bad idea, we have HOLES on this team, throwing our only chance of addressing those holes for a shot at Garrett(who is no where NEAR as good a prospect as Mack was) would be foolish.

[GrimCoconut]

2 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Bad idea, we have HOLES on this team, throwing our only chance of addressing those holes for a shot at Garrett(who is no where NEAR as good a prospect as Mack was) would be foolish.

I used to agree and would normally but here's the deal: we need a game changer who can take over an entire game. Having that elite talent would do a ton to help this team because Garrett would mean less time for the QB to throw making it easier for the CB to cover. Furthermore it would make our other less explosive pass rushers better. Garrett would be that one guy I wouldn't mind trading the farm to have and it's because he literally wins games. 

[jboy19]

On 10/14/2016 at 8:09 AM, Cillmatic said:

Bad idea, we have HOLES on this team, throwing our only chance of addressing those holes for a shot at Garrett(who is no where NEAR as good a prospect as Mack was) would be foolish.

I'd disagree about the Mack thing. As a prospect there were a lot of questions about Mack (generic tweener concerns, level of competition concerns, etc.). I wouldn't trade the farm for Garrett, but tbh I would never trade the farm for any one player. I think if Garrett was in the 2014 draft he'd be in contention with Clowney for the top pick. 

Edited October 24, 2016 by jboy19

[RaineV1]

11 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I used to agree and would normally but here's the deal: we need a game changer who can take over an entire game. Having that elite talent would do a ton to help this team because Garrett would mean less time for the QB to throw making it easier for the CB to cover. Furthermore it would make our other less explosive pass rushers better. Garrett would be that one guy I wouldn't mind trading the farm to have and it's because he literally wins games. 

I can see where you're coming from, but the Ravens have landed those types of players late in the first before (Ray, Heap, and Reed being examples of it). They aren't common, but it happens. And people said that about Julio Jones too, but it took a long time and some coaching changes for the Falcons to patch up their holes after that trade.

[JoeyFlex5]

15 hours ago, jboy19 said:

I'd disagree about the Mack thing. As a prospect there were a lot of questions about Mack (generic tweener concerns, level of competition concerns, etc.). I wouldn't trade the farm for Garrett, but tbh I would never trade the farm for any one player. I think if Garrett was in the 2012 draft he'd be in contention with Clowney for the top pick. 

garrett would likely blast clowney out of the water. the character concerns were still there in 2012, they arent there and wont be there for garrett.

[RavensDieHard21]

On 10/11/2016 at 1:05 PM, GrimCoconut said:

I've been riding his train since last season. This guy will be a monster in the NFL and I'm convinced that we should trade for him despite the cost. Yes, I'd even sacrifice our first three picks for this guy and a first next year. I liked Bosa but he was never the guaranteed homerun that I see here. This guy will solve a lot of our defensive problems imo. 

Agreed across the board. We have tried the method of let's try to see who falls to us and let's see how many extra picks we can gather by trading back, which in recent years has us in the predicament we are in. We are a decent team with an above average defense and a terrible killer instinct. We have no closers out there on either side of the ball. Garrett is worth 2-4 pick high round picks. Even though it is still too early to tell, Would Mosley,Jernigan, and Gilmore have been worth the price of Mack? Or would Stanley and Bronson been worth the price of Ramsey? I think Garrett seems to be an even greater guarantee and the kid is only 20. We need a game wrecker bad.

[RavensDieHard21]

On 10/13/2016 at 5:07 AM, Davesta said:

Can we trade the farm for Garrett? Didn't we try to move up for Mack? 

Ozzie made an inquiry, but shriveled up once he found out they wanted our second and third round pick smh

[RavensDieHard21]

On 10/14/2016 at 8:09 AM, Cillmatic said:

Bad idea, we have HOLES on this team, throwing our only chance of addressing those holes for a shot at Garrett(who is no where NEAR as good a prospect as Mack was) would be foolish.

Ya we have tried these methods have years and where has it gotten us? We think we are filling holes, but in all reality we have a similar team as we did before the draft. 

[RavensDieHard21]

On 10/14/2016 at 11:03 AM, jboy19 said:

I'd disagree about the Mack thing. As a prospect there were a lot of questions about Mack (generic tweener concerns, level of competition concerns, etc.). I wouldn't trade the farm for Garrett, but tbh I would never trade the farm for any one player. I think if Garrett was in the 2012 draft he'd be in contention with Clowney for the top pick. 

Clowney was in the 14' draft....

[rmw10]

I know my first post in here is stating Myles Garrett, but I think Jonathan Allen is going to give him a run for his money as the #1 on my board if he keeps it up.  It's really difficult to find a flaw in his games these past few weeks.

[Cillmatic]

Seeing Garett get handled by Tunsil has me a little nervous, the dude has some small arms too.

[GrimCoconut]

35 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I know my first post in here is stating Myles Garrett, but I think Jonathan Allen is going to give him a run for his money as the #1 on my board if he keeps it up.  It's really difficult to find a flaw in his games these past few weeks.

Allen is such a beast. i really believe he could be an OLB in the 3-4 and I agree that he is one of the most talented prospects in the draft. I want him really badly as well. I remember watching Alabama last year to see Robinson and Reed but Allen was the one who popped out on the film. 

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Allen is such a beast. i really believe he could be an OLB in the 3-4 and I agree that he is one of the most talented prospects in the draft. I want him really badly as well. I remember watching Alabama last year to see Robinson and Reed but Allen was the one who popped out on the film. 

I think he's perfect for the 4-3 under we've been running.  Scoot him inside as the 3T in pass rushing situations.

[Cillmatic]

27 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I think he's perfect for the 4-3 under we've been running.  Scoot him inside as the 3T in pass rushing situations.

My main concern with Allen is just the system Alabama has in place, that whole D-line looks good. Saban's running a FACTORY over there.  Can't say I'd be so happy with us taking a mostly interior 4-3 D-lineman either.

Edited October 24, 2016 by Cillmatic

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, Cillmatic said:

My main concern with Allen is just the system Alabama has in place, that whole D-line looks good. Saban's running a FACTORY over there.

I don't think you can look at the system with Allen and Alabama.  Allen has the skill set and isn't solely making plays just because everyone else around him is good.  He's making plays because he's good.  Really, when you watch him, there's not much wrong with his game.  He has the explosion, pad level, hand usage, etc. and all of it is great.

[ravensnation5220]

I would say garrett no doubt if hes available but im starting to think fournette......he would imediately help us win games. 6 rush yards vs the JETS are you kidding!!!! We need to bring back smash mouth football to Bmore and fournette is a rare talent. Him and beef up that oline. We have thrown the ball more than any team in the league. Thats not ravens football

[Cillmatic]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I would say garrett no doubt if hes available but im starting to think fournette......he would imediately help us win games. 6 rush yards vs the JETS are you kidding!!!! We need to bring back smash mouth football to Bmore and fournette is a rare talent. Him and beef up that oline. We have thrown the ball more than any team in the league. Thats not ravens football

We got 6 rushing yards because the O-line is trash and the Jets D-line is great. LF wouldn't do much better. He's gonna have quite a bit of mileage on him by the time he's drafted anyway.

[jboy19]

10 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Clowney was in the 14' draft....

Changed it for you. 

[GrimCoconut]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

I think he's perfect for the 4-3 under we've been running.  Scoot him inside as the 3T in pass rushing situations.

Agreed with you here 100%. I said it last year, but I see Allen as a McPhee+. I think he can bring everything McPhee did and then some. I see him as a potentially elite player in the NFL if he's used correctly. I would absolutely love him here. 

1 hour ago, Cillmatic said:

My main concern with Allen is just the system Alabama has in place, that whole D-line looks good. Saban's running a FACTORY over there.  Can't say I'd be so happy with us taking a mostly interior 4-3 D-lineman either.

I believe in the whole "scout the player not the helmet" philosophy, but I do understand where you're coming from here. With that said, do you mind if I tell you something rather bold? You had many concerns last year about Bosa, and he is tearing it up in the NFL. Tearing it up! I don't mean to be rude, but I think you exaggerate concerns at times and I think you are in this case, personally. I may be wrong, but you can tell at times if a player is a product of the system or a product. I think Allen could be a product himself and not a product of Alabama. The guy plays quick and strong, and moves very well for his size. Watch him and don't focus so much on the fact that he's from Alabama.

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

I don't think you can look at the system with Allen and Alabama.  Allen has the skill set and isn't solely making plays just because everyone else around him is good.  He's making plays because he's good.  Really, when you watch him, there's not much wrong with his game.  He has the explosion, pad level, hand usage, etc. and all of it is great.

I agree. He stood out last year with Robinson, Reed, and others. Everything I see from Allen is really good and demonstrates his coaching, and unlike Upshaw, Allen wins through leverage and good technique but also explosiveness by converting speed to power at the PoA. He's got quick hands to beat the OT and get to the QB. He was very effective last year and is continuing to improve, which is the kind of prospect I want to see. 

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I would say garrett no doubt if hes available but im starting to think fournette......he would imediately help us win games. 6 rush yards vs the JETS are you kidding!!!! We need to bring back smash mouth football to Bmore and fournette is a rare talent. Him and beef up that oline. We have thrown the ball more than any team in the league. Thats not ravens football

Fournette would help, so would Cook; however, I think I'd rather go Elflein or Nelson than RB. We're weak at the interior OL--especially center with Zuttah. Upgrading that helps a lot. 

15 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

We got 6 rushing yards because the O-line is trash and the Jets D-line is great. LF wouldn't do much better. He's gonna have quite a bit of mileage on him by the time he's drafted anyway.

Fournette would be awesome here. He's got milegae but so does Ezekiel and he's killing it. 

[jboy19]

5 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Fournette would be awesome here. He's got milegae but so does Ezekiel and he's killing it. 

Ezekiels behind 4 First Round Talents, not sure he replicates behind a line like ours. Fournettes not my top RB though- hes close but I think Cook edges him out. Its a shame LF didn't enter the league 10 years ago- he'd probably go first overall. 

[GrimCoconut]

28 minutes ago, jboy19 said:

Ezekiels behind 4 First Round Talents, not sure he replicates behind a line like ours. Fournettes not my top RB though- hes close but I think Cook edges him out. Its a shame LF didn't enter the league 10 years ago- he'd probably go first overall. 

True points but we've seen other RB run behind the Dallas OL with not as much success so I think some of Elliott's success is a product of his OL but it's also him as well. I agree though that I like Cook better. Both are good but Cook slightly edges Leonard for me.