[News] John Harbaugh Explains His Decision To Change Offensive Coordinators

[BR News]

The Ravens coach said he felt in his gut that the offense wasn’t going to improve heading in the same direction, and laid out specific areas where he wants to see changes.

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[CQ1]

Anything is better than that mess. Lets hope that this change progresses well- if not, we know (many of us) where the issue lies- which has been part of the problem for some time.

[ravensrock89]

lol Just last week he was saying he was confident the offence was going to turn it around. He basically trying to save his own job.

[metalraven]

lol Just last week he was saying he was confident the offence was going to turn it around. He basically trying to save his own job.

Well you'd expect a HC to say just that. He should expect things to turn around, and if they don't, he looks at the root cause, and eliminates it. This is precisely what happened. I question a lot of what Harbs does, especially in game, but I do not question this decision. Will things get better? We can only hope. But at least he did the thing in this instance.

[Ibleedperple]

Oh Harb's thinks the fans are a little stupid. everyone knows Good ol Steve reminded him that big shake up if he didn't win. But he really isn't that good if you look at his record since 2013.....26 wins 27 losses

[Ibleedperple]

The worst thing is Harb's is always saying we have to work to get better. So full of it. It's amazing how New England can win with a 2nd, 3rd string quarterback, no gronk, no big name receivers. But they can win. How can Harb's explain being OUT COACHED for 4 weeks in a row... Oh Yea gotta work on it.

[btfan2]

I don't believe a word he says about anything. I think finally he's scared. This is a knee jerk reaction to save his job. I have mixed feelings, yes it needed to be done but; why another Philly ex. So far Harbaugh's decision making is and has been suspect.

I'd bet tons of money if I had any, that Harbaugh was told at the end of last season no play offs this season, no job for you. Otherwise we would be seeing and hearing all the same lame excuses, arrogant behavior and blatant denials of weakness and continued ineffectiveness as has been his MO for far to long.

Maybe he'll spend a little less time being a star for the media and a little more being a heat coach, that pays attention to his team and what's really needed to win..

[metalraven]

The worst thing is Harb's is always saying we have to work to get better. So full of it. It's amazing how New England can win with a 2nd, 3rd string quarterback, no gronk, no big name receivers. But they can win. How can Harb's explain being OUT COACHED for 4 weeks in a row... Oh Yea gotta work on it.

Yep. He's always incredibly vague in his speech. But I think a lot has to do with the fact that Harbs is not the Xs and Os guy. I think the entire organization needs to look at itself in the mirror. Another losing season in unacceptable. This is THE Baltimore freaking Ravens. They set a standard of excellence, and the team name alone garners respect from the NFL world. But that is slowly fading. They better get back to Ravens football soon.

[Tatt P]

I support Harbs 100% on this move. Trestman was our OC all of last season and while we had many injuries, so did the Patriots who went on to the playoffs. Under Trestman games were unnecessarily close leading to some heartbreaking losses. With our talent, we should be on the winning side of things by scoring more points.

Our Defense is great right now even though it could still improve. Imagine this defense with it's increased turnovers and a more capable Offense to put up six points off of those turnovers.

Harbs you have this fans approval. FWIW

[The Greek]

everyone on offense needs to step it up. collective effort is needed.

[Red723]

I support Harbs 100% on this move. Trestman was our OC all of last season and while we had many injuries, so did the Patriots who went on to the playoffs. Under Trestman games were unnecessarily close leading to some heartbreaking losses. With our talent, we should be on the winning side of things by scoring more points.

Our Defense is great right now even though it could still improve. Imagine this defense with it's increased turnovers and a more capable Offense to put up six points off of those turnovers.

Harbs you have this fans approval. FWIW

Harbs deserve sto be on the hot seat next if this doesn't work.

[PalmBayRaven]

  31 minutes ago, Ibleedperple said:

The worst thing is Harb's is always saying we have to work to get better. So full of it. It's amazing how New England can win with a 2nd, 3rd string quarterback, no gronk, no big name receivers. But they can win. How can Harb's explain being OUT COACHED for 4 weeks in a row... Oh Yea gotta work on it.

Yep. He's always incredibly vague in his speech. But I think a lot has to do with the fact that Harbs is not the Xs and Os guy. I think the entire organization needs to look at itself in the mirror. Another losing season in unacceptable. This is THE Baltimore freaking Ravens. They set a standard of excellence, and the team name alone garners respect from the NFL world. But that is slowly fading. They better get back to Ravens football soon.

Buddy where have you been? Ravens have lost plenty. There is no damn standard here except Defense. Offense has always sucked. Look at Trent Dilfer. We were the first team to cut a Super Bowl winning QB the next year. Why? He sucked but was a game manager and got the job done. Can we forget the Kyle Boller days? Hello? We haven't had guy who could get job done since Bert Jones. I really want to say Unitas but that is too far back.

[Jim from Ellicott City]

Since Ray Lewis retired in 2013, the ravens have gone 26 and 27 and the Ravens are on their 5th Offensive Coordinator in less than 4 years, Cameron (dismissed 12/10/12), Caldwell (dismissed 1/1/14), Kubiak (left 1/18/15), Trestman (dismissed 10/10/16), and now Mornhenwig. Maybe the problem extends beyond the OC position. Maybe, just maybe, John Harbaugh has no idea what he's doing. In 8 plus years, he still can not manage personnel, the game, or the clock. He is pretty good at doing press conferences and telling us they they need to get better.

I wish someone would throw tons of money at me for mediocrity.

[Bruce_Almty]

Now that Mornhinweg has the reigns, I hope to see a game plan that exploits an opponents weaknesses as opposed to taking what they give us; some creative play calling, a little misdirection, and most importantly...put Joe and the receivers in favorable situations. Our team has its strengths and their team has weaknesses, maximize ours and exploit theirs.

[harfordravenfan]

1 hour ago, metalraven said:

Well you'd expect a HC to say just that. He should expect things to turn around, and if they don't, he looks at the root cause, and eliminates it. This is precisely what happened. I question a lot of what Harbs does, especially in game, but I do not question this decision. Will things get better? We can only hope. But at least he did the thing in this instance.

Well said metal, I'm hoping for the same

[PalmBayRaven]

That would go back to poor draft picks which comes back to bite you. We build from the draft so if we screw up which we have plenty this is when it shows up. It is just so disappointing to watch Joe play the last few years. I keep hoping for the best and just haven't seen it. Every year I think this will be the year Joe breaks out. Nine years later I am still waiting.

[harfordravenfan]

4 minutes ago, Bruce_Almty said:

Now that Mornhinweg has the reigns, I hope to see a game plan that exploits an opponents weaknesses as opposed to taking what they give us; some creative play calling, a little misdirection, and most importantly...put Joe and the receivers in favorable situations. Our team has its strengths and their team has weaknesses, maximize ours and exploit theirs.

Hoping for the same Bruce. If there was animosity towards trestman, players will give their all towards this change

[Island.John]

Coach Harbaugh is one of the best in the NFL, together with Ozzie and Mr. B. We have the best managed organization in football.

Coach knows how to delegate, he never demonstrates any personal ego interference, and most of all he keeps the Ravens family together, tight, focused, and forward thinking. He makes the right move for the organization when needed, not after it's too late. Thes kinds of move take guts, courage, and proven intelligence to consider the big picture.

Let's not forget the recent Super Bowl win, and many playoff seasons, each with a win. Do you detractors realize how hard this is to accomplish in this league? How many other cities have waited decades for a SB appearance?

Much gratitude to coach and this organization who are demonstratively committed to continueing a winning football tradition in this city. I am old enough to remember the flailing Bert Jones teams if the 70's who couldn't win even 1 game in the post season, or the Chiefs and Fins of the 80s and 90s who were 1 and done with regularity.

Hat tip to Coach Harbs and the front office, you bring much love and entertainment to me and my family each week, you are appreciated as much as the players!

[757RavensFan]

24 minutes ago, Jim from Ellicott City said:

Since Ray Lewis retired in 2013, the ravens have gone 26 and 27 and the Ravens are on their 5th Offensive Coordinator in less than 4 years, Cameron (dismissed 12/10/12), Caldwell (dismissed 1/1/14), Kubiak (left 1/18/15), Trestman (dismissed 10/10/16), and now Mornhenwig. Maybe the problem extends beyond the OC position. Maybe, just maybe, John Harbaugh has no idea what he's doing. In 8 plus years, he still can not manage personnel, the game, or the clock. He is pretty good at doing press conferences and telling us they they need to get better.

I wish someone would throw tons of money at me for mediocrity.
 

Caldwell wasn't dismissed, he left to be the Lions HC.  

[stixfix69]

First off, Harbs and Flacco both have one of the best winning marks since 2008, best road playoff record...As fans we expect way to much, considering the asst coaches who leave for HC jobs or OC, or DC positions. This doesn;t fall on Harbs, the fact they win more than they lose says a lot about the coaching staff turn-over.....The 5-11 season due to 21 players placed on IR kind of makes that 26-27 record what it is.....The job of the HC is to make changes when they have to be made, this needed done, so he did his part. So lets see how things turn out, and i still say they just need to break out Kubiaks play book and blocking schemes and use it.....

[flynismo]

That would go back to poor draft picks which comes back to bite you. We build from the draft so if we screw up which we have plenty this is when it shows up. It is just so disappointing to watch Joe play the last few years. I keep hoping for the best and just haven't seen it. Every year I think this will be the year Joe breaks out. Nine years later I am still waiting.

Makes complete sense!
It's not like Flacco has broken dozens of records, led this team to a SB, won a SB MVP, garnered a reputation as THE qb you don't want to see facing your team when it matters, put together the single greatest postseason run of all time, along with Ryan is the reason why rookie QBs are expected to make an immediate impact now and won more games than all but a handful of QBs to ever play the game in his short time here.
I think you should keep waiting til this overpaid scrub actually achieves something.

[Purple Dawg 96]

When your QB isn't happy the OC mite as well start packing! The 1st drive this Sunday needs to be three straight passes or become predictable and Joe will never get time to throw because they will know when to blow up the O line from all sides! Help the O line and become less predictable! I just want my Gunslinger back that guy that came to Bmore lighting it up! Our WRs can't get into a groove if they are not getting the ball and if they drop it go back to him and let him rebound! Joe's arm is fresh so let's open it up! The giants are Toast! Sincerely The Troll Lol

[PalmBayRaven]

  46 minutes ago, PalmBayRaven said:

That would go back to poor draft picks which comes back to bite you. We build from the draft so if we screw up which we have plenty this is when it shows up. It is just so disappointing to watch Joe play the last few years. I keep hoping for the best and just haven't seen it. Every year I think this will be the year Joe breaks out. Nine years later I am still waiting.

Makes complete sense!
It's not like Flacco has broken dozens of records, led this team to a SB, won a SB MVP, garnered a reputation as THE qb you don't want to see facing your team when it matters, put together the single greatest postseason run of all time, along with Ryan is the reason why rookie QBs are expected to make an immediate impact now and won more games than all but a handful of QBs to ever play the game in his short time here.
I think you should keep waiting til this overpaid scrub actually achieves something.

No it wasn't the single greatest postseason run he tied Montana. He didn't break the record he tied it. That was 4 years ago. Let's look at the record since then. My opinion he hasn't played to what we are paying him. Rookies QB's are playing well Wentz, Prescott. Joe is 27-25 since the Super Bowl. He hasn't even passed over 4,000 yards in a season. He threw 46 times Sunday and didn't even have 300 yards. We are ranked 32nd in league on 3rd down conversions. That means 31 other quarterbacks were more successful than Joe on 3rd down. I think we lead the league in 3 and outs? Not so great QB's do win the Super Bowl (Trent Dilfer) and then there are other great quarterbacks they have never won Dan Marino, Jim Kelley, Fran Tarkington. Honest to God I want to see him do great but it has to get better than what it's been

[ravens4life86]

Heres only thing you need to know Flacco 250 passes most in NFL by a long shot, Luck is 2nd at 205.

Ravens are NOT a Dome team with no defense who plays 38-35 shootouts every week.

Were a balanced offense historically who runs it 25-30x a game and pass 35x a game.

Thats what I expect going forward, or else at the seasons end the whole dang coaching staff can get the boot

[flynismo]

12 minutes ago, PalmBayRaven said:

No it wasn't the single greatest postseason run he tied Montana. He didn't break the record he tied it. That was 4 years ago. Let's look at the record since then. My opinion he hasn't played to what we are paying him. Rookies QB's are playing well Wentz, Prescott. Joe is 27-25 since the Super Bowl. He hasn't even passed over 4,000 yards in a season. He threw 46 times Sunday and didn't even have 300 yards. We are ranked 32nd in league on 3rd down conversions. That means 31 other quarterbacks were more successful than Joe on 3rd down. I think we lead the league in 3 and outs? Not so great QB's do win the Super Bowl (Trent Dilfer) and then there are other great quarterbacks they have never won Dan Marino, Jim Kelley, Fran Tarkington. Honest to God I want to see him do great but it has to get better than what it's been

I wonder why they just fired Trestman?

[20306cab]

Well, Self Righteous John and Far Below Average Joe, were able to make Trestman the scapegoat. If a nine year head coach can't have some say in the plays that are called, or a nine year veteran QB, has NO CLUE how to audible, then Trestman should consider himself LUCKY to get off this sinking ship while he can. NOTHING will change this week. It's a shame they're wasting a lot of GOOD D!

[designermaryland]

  1 hour ago, PalmBayRaven said:

That would go back to poor draft picks which comes back to bite you. We build from the draft so if we screw up which we have plenty this is when it shows up. It is just so disappointing to watch Joe play the last few years. I keep hoping for the best and just haven't seen it. Every year I think this will be the year Joe breaks out. Nine years later I am still waiting.

Makes complete sense!
It's not like Flacco has broken dozens of records, led this team to a SB, won a SB MVP, garnered a reputation as THE qb you don't want to see facing your team when it matters, put together the single greatest postseason run of all time, along with Ryan is the reason why rookie QBs are expected to make an immediate impact now and won more games than all but a handful of QBs to ever play the game in his short time here.
I think you should keep waiting til this overpaid scrub actually achieves something.

had it not been a complete stroke of luck with jacoby catching a completely misplayed hail mary, flacco would be a backup in cleveland. he caught fire for 4 games and somehow wakes out of his coma every few games in the 4th quarter to make a game interesting, but what is he doing for the other 50 minutes of every game? not much. i would possibly take every other starting qb in the league before flacco, except like bortles, tannehill and a few others. the rest are better, more aware and more productive running an offense.

[designermaryland]

  22 minutes ago, PalmBayRaven said:

No it wasn't the single greatest postseason run he tied Montana. He didn't break the record he tied it. That was 4 years ago. Let's look at the record since then. My opinion he hasn't played to what we are paying him. Rookies QB's are playing well Wentz, Prescott. Joe is 27-25 since the Super Bowl. He hasn't even passed over 4,000 yards in a season. He threw 46 times Sunday and didn't even have 300 yards. We are ranked 32nd in league on 3rd down conversions. That means 31 other quarterbacks were more successful than Joe on 3rd down. I think we lead the league in 3 and outs? Not so great QB's do win the Super Bowl (Trent Dilfer) and then there are other great quarterbacks they have never won Dan Marino, Jim Kelley, Fran Tarkington. Honest to God I want to see him do great but it has to get better than what it's been

I wonder why they just fired Trestman?

because flacco and harbaugh need a scape goat to blame their ineptness on. we are not winning more than 6 games this year.

[Zeus]

Bravo Harbs for doing what was needed

[flynismo]

11 minutes ago, designermaryland said:

had it not been a complete stroke of luck with jacoby catching a completely misplayed hail mary, flacco would be a backup in cleveland. he caught fire for 4 games and somehow wakes out of his coma every few games in the 4th quarter to make a game interesting, but what is he doing for the other 50 minutes of every game? not much. i would possibly take every other starting qb in the league before flacco, except like bortles, tannehill and a few others. the rest are better, more aware and more productive running an offense.

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