[News] Ravens Fire Offensive Coordinator Marc Trestman

[provemewrong2052]

the last time we lost to the skins and fired our oc we won the SB that year was 2012 oh and 2000 we lost to the skins and won the SB. hopefully this means we get it together again and win it all.

[Ravensfansince03]

Now all harbaugh has to do is fire that side of him that has us doing immature trick plays instead of kicking field goals. And going for it on 4th down & long with 1 second left on the clock.

[surfdude]

I'm a Flacco fan , BUT he truly is a QB that needs an elite offensive line. Has always been the case. Flacoo even before the knee injury never rolled out a little with Kubs but that was it. The Super Bowl run the line played at a high level and he basically threw jump balls to Boldin and Pitta. I've never thought of Joe as elite cuz those are rare but he's been good enough to have a winning record with good players around. He has to be protected that's the bottom line.

[RavenLunatic]

The 2 constants over the last 8 years - Harbaugh and Flacco. One of them is the real problem, if not - both.
I love Joe. He has shown those glimpses of greatness, but in between that a whole lot of head scratching. John was a breath of fresh air after Billick left. The polished optimistic guy that made you feel good about everything. The problem is I feel like now all he is doing is blowing smoke up my "you know what".

My advice to Marty,
Keep Joe under center. His mechanics are better there. Run the ball to generate a good play action. Use the gun with a back, never empty. And let's see where we can go from there.

[xpo]

If we could only get Harbaugh to fire himself then just maybe Tucker would be kicking field goals to add to the lead.

Just No, Just stop....

[Drinkmore Beer]

If our O was playing as well as our D this year, we's be 5-0 and the wins wouldn't be squeakers. Yes, the O line is banged up, but the play-calling has been atrocious and Flacco is playing way below his pay grade. Run the damn ball! Then throw deep off of play action. Other teams do this all the time. We throw 4 yard passes to the flat when it's third and nine.

[surfdude]

The 2 constants over the last 8 years - Harbaugh and Flacco. One of them is the real problem, if not - both.
I love Joe. He has shown those glimpses of greatness, but in between that a whole lot of head scratching. John was a breath of fresh air after Billick left. The polished optimistic guy that made you feel good about everything. The problem is I feel like now all he is doing is blowing smoke up my "you know what".

My advice to Marty,
Keep Joe under center. His mechanics are better there. Run the ball to generate a good play action. Use the gun with a back, never empty. And let's see where we can go from there.

I agree with your advice. Not that means much, LOL.

[stampedehero]

Somebody on the offensive side had to get the axe.  Trestman had his chance against Washington and blew it by limiting Wests' snaps after the first quarter. When you compare our offensive capabilities and watch NE cruise down the field like a tour bus, you know his schemes lack imagination and opportunity.   At the end of the fourth, Wallace got sandwiched where Dennis should have been the go to player.  Aikens involvement in the last play of games is not a sure idea.  I saw Mosley soar in heights of glory then fall into the fenced yard of a goat.  On the whole, the players better respond as the NY Giants and Jets are next.  We aim for 5-2 at the bye.

[surfdude]

Healthy O l line I would go with:
LT Stanley LG Urschel C Jeremy RG Yanda RT Lewis

[BlackLesPaul]

I live just 5 min, away from the Skins Stadium. But I can't stand the skins. Last week we couldn't see the game. Why???????

They put the Maryland flag symbol on the field. I pay Maryland tax. What's up with that????? If you not gonna let us see the game, then cut my Maryland tax rate... The skins are on the TV every day. Every day. I also bank with M&T.


And now, I've got to look at my Red Skin neighbor's asking what happen to my Ravens. Flacco lacks the ability to look out of the corner of his eye and see he's about to get knocked out!

If you drive a car. You've got to be able to do that, or you better call Geico...
And if you don't catch on, Geico will drop you. So you call State Farm. But soon, State Farm drops you. The

Why in the world didn't they go for the 1 yard, to make the first down?

Prince left us back in April. And it looks like the only Purple Rain we'll be seeing is the Minnesota Vikings....

[ski]

The problem with the offense is lack of talent. The offensive line is and has been mediocre at best for years now. Aside from Yanda, who on that line consistently puts up an A game? And where is the offense's top tier receiver? Finally, the rush attack has been a mess since "he-who-must-not-be-named" suspended himself from the league for unacceptable behavior. What solid running backs have been brought in since? None. In fact, the roster for the offense has zero players outside of Yanda and Flacco one would reasonably consider a perennial Pro-Bowl quality starter. This is not Flacco's fault. This is not Harbaugh's fault. And this is not Trestman's fault. The blame is solely on Ozzie Newsome. He is why our Ravens have struggled offensively for years. He is the one that needs to be fired.

[The Greek]

wonder if we could trade all of our draft picks next season for the cowboys o-line

[The Mom Gene]

wonder if we could trade all of our draft picks next season for the cowboys o-line

I know right??? They SPANKED the Bengals yesterday.

[The Mom Gene]

Healthy O l line I would go with:
LT Stanley LG Urschel C Jeremy RG Yanda RT Lewis

OK, I could go with that.

[dayday]

Joe throws one of the prettiest long balls in the NFL. For the past 2 yrs we haven't seen that. Joe may not be a Tom Brady but when he has time to do what he do best, he's great. The O-line has been terrible because of injury and inexperience this year and I believe that contributes to a lot of Joe's woes. I agree with the change in Offensive Coordinator but without protection we will be watching the same thing happen every week. Besides play calling they have to address the O-line. He is getting hit, hurried and sacked far to often this season. It takes time to develop big plays. If he's getting hit every 3 seconds how can we see those big play we have been accustom to?

[The Mom Gene]

Yesterday 4 out of 5 Linemen were out hurt. Then another one went down. What do people expect??? Come on people! If we could get the Offensive Line healthy, then we would at least have a shot at a longer season.

[law215]

Every since that Superbowl run the Ravens convinced themselves that the offense can run through Joe. In the Ravens championship/playoff run there was always been a power FB like Leach, Gash, O Neal and big physical o-linemen. like Birk, McKinney, KO, Mulitalo. I know its a passing league but even Brady, Big Ben, Manning have somewhat of a run game to set things up. When they don't, they lose games.

[raven4evr]

Sorry, but not sorry to see Trestman go, now what about the DC, and maybe the Head Coach. Tired of hearing excuses. Glad to hear QB is embarrassed. Certainly hasn't looked 'elite" for 2 seasons now. Although the O line could be a big contributer. Anyone miss KO, I feel so bad for Steve Smith who seems to be the only receiver playing.

[raven4evr]

  37 minutes ago, RavenLunatic said:

The 2 constants over the last 8 years - Harbaugh and Flacco. One of them is the real problem, if not - both.
I love Joe. He has shown those glimpses of greatness, but in between that a whole lot of head scratching. John was a breath of fresh air after Billick left. The polished optimistic guy that made you feel good about everything. The problem is I feel like now all he is doing is blowing smoke up my "you know what".

My advice to Marty,
Keep Joe under center. His mechanics are better there. Run the ball to generate a good play action. Use the gun with a back, never empty. And let's see where we can go from there.

I agree with your advice. Not that means much, LOL.

I agree... Coaching? 3rd and 14, let's trow the ball 12 yards to a covered receiver!

[DBsRAVENS]

glad harbaugh had someone on board with oc exp. the o-line is the big issue. need to get healthy. giants game will be tough. time to start perriman and give him the chance as the #1. pass rush needs to get back to where it was the 1st 3 games. more judon, correia, z man

Thank you, The Greek. You drafted Perriman to be #1 WR. Play him like that and let him grow into the position. And enough of this Pee-Wee league everybody plays. If West is ballin, give him the ball and spell him when he gets tired.

[The Beak]

Could not get any worse.. Bye cam Trestman , or Mark Cameron

[DENNYK]

Trestman should have see this coming. Losing one's job is tough for sure, but you have to be able to produce if you expect to keep that job. He didn't so on he goes. Have to say that Harbaugh should be next if he can't control what his coaching staff is supposed to be doing. He talks about the team, the team. It is up to him to make that group one and he is falling short himself. I cannot see Steve Bisciotti accepting another losing year with the talent that we have. Some more heads will roll if things do not improve quickly.

[ndinoto03]

  1 hour ago, The Greek said:

glad harbaugh had someone on board with oc exp. the o-line is the big issue. need to get healthy. giants game will be tough. time to start perriman and give him the chance as the #1. pass rush needs to get back to where it was the 1st 3 games. more judon, correia, z man

Thank you, The Greek. You drafted Perriman to be #1 WR. Play him like that and let him grow into the position. And enough of this Pee-Wee league everybody plays. If West is ballin, give him the ball and spell him when he gets tired.

Lol. You are suggesting exactly what you state you disagree with. You don't just play Perriman because we drafted him high, when he can't catch. That's Pee Wee football.

[FloridalovesRavens]

Hope everyone is happy now. Anyone else you want fired? I am being sarcastic of course. Something had to give and unfortunately it was Trestman. Let's get on the stick and win some games.

[MayIBeFrank]

I wonder if it would have been better a few years ago if Kubiak had not been available? Ravens were looking at Kyle Shanahan and then one-year Kubiak came along, who promised to stay the long term until El-no-way came a callin'. That was a hell of a good year, but I wonder if we had signed Shanahan, who's a pretty good OC, whether the continuity may have helped? Might not be in this fix.

Wonder if Mormhinweg is a stopgap till next year or is he viewed as the long term fix?

[Ravensfansince03]

26 minutes ago, MayIBeFrank said:

I wonder if it would have been better a few years ago if Kubiak had not been available? Ravens were looking at Kyle Shanahan and then one-year Kubiak came along, who promised to stay the long term until El-no-way came a callin'. That was a hell of a good year, but I wonder if we had signed Shanahan, who's a pretty good OC, whether the continuity may have helped? Might not be in this fix.

Wonder if Mormhinweg is a stopgap till next year or is he viewed as the long term fix?

Well, first off we can't think in the past about the "what if's".
As of now, the important thing was to fire Trestman.

Marty, who is now our OC is kind of an underdog.
I'm pretty sure he understands why Trestman was fired.
And knows we have to run the ball more.

Whether he stays for a year or more is entirely up to how successful our offense is under his leadership.

Edited October 10, 2016 by Ravensfansince03

[Ravensfansince03]

34 minutes ago, FloridalovesRavens said:

Hope everyone is happy now. Anyone else you want fired? I am being sarcastic of course. Something had to give and unfortunately it was Trestman. Let's get on the stick and win some games.

They'll be happy when we win the games we are supposed to win. Firing Trestman was the responsibility of the coaches, not the fans. And it wasn't a matter of whether we wanted him fired or not. He HAD to be fired.

[Raven1995]

Some coaches never change. Others evolve in their outlook and knowledge. Kubiak was a pariah in his last year in Houston for being an extremely risk-averse playcaller and very unimaginative after Arian Foster went down. In fact, in O'Brien's intro presser the Texans' GM said they were happy to finally have a "smart, imaginative, original thinker."
Unfortunately for the rest of the league, Kubiak was listening. He evolved and added more quirks to his zone run schemes with us and then in Denver adapted the offense to fit around Peyton's dying arm.

Trestman didn't evolve. His playcalling was bland, unimaginative, and frustratingly unaware of situational needs during large patches of the game. We telegraphed runs in the shotgun and then wondered why the run game wasn't producing. We threw the ball 50+ times routinely out of the gun to where simply man coverage were sufficient to stifle us for quarters on end.

Hopefully Morningwheg has observed.

Well Said.

[n#7]

  48 minutes ago, FloridalovesRavens said:

Hope everyone is happy now. Anyone else you want fired? I am being sarcastic of course. Something had to give and unfortunately it was Trestman. Let's get on the stick and win some games.

They'll be happy when we win the games we are supposed to win. Firing Trestman was the responsibility of the coaches, not the fans. And it wasn't a matter of whether we wanted him fired or not. He HAD to be fired.

One can be reasonably assured that decision came right from the very top. The last time an O coordinator was fired was also after a loss to the Redskins and the Ravens went on to win the SB. We should be so lucky this time!

[Ravensfolyfe]

I go to work this morning feeling like ugh then i hear on the radio that Trashman is fired the sun came out because 530 this morning it was chilly and dark. So to hear that news made the rest of my day less stressful. But,I do feel that the players and coach gotta step it up big time...NO MORE EXCUSES! Trashman is gone players step up and do your job and Mr. Harbs make smarter decision an don't be foolish and pass up on Tucker when we in his range. I'm hoping to see the run pass ratio more balanced from now on. We shall see too be continued!!