Merged: Ravens Fire Marc Trestman

[rmw10]

 

[Kid87]

Well we fired him...is this a reoccurring  theme in Baltimore 

[BSHU_Miami]

Hes gone!!!!

[BmoreBird22]

Just the news I wanted to see.

[eek]

10 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

Here's a name people don't throw out often, how about Mike McCoy? I don't know much about him but people who work with him speak very highly of him. 

so you want to replace one dink and dunker for another?

[jdynamite]

Mike and mike just announced breaking news tressman fired seconds ago. 

[eek]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

 

i hope that is true, i never been a big advocate for firing any coach during the season, but this one was needed

[cobrajet]

24 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

yawn.

at some point we need to stop blaming the OC only and also look at the players and if you want to blame the coaches then have a look at all of them and not just the 1 that is easy to target.

O-line is a mess, well who is the o-line coach?
WR are dropping passes, well who is the wr coach?
QB has sloppy mechanics, well who is the QB coach?

most of the issues the ravens have are pretty much been around over numerous OC.

If some passes where caught we wont be complaining about the OC.
if the o-line could block for longer then a second we wont be complaining about the OC.

doubt an OC can come in and magically make the o-line become that much better or have the wrs hang on to balls better.

seems people forget that positions coaches also have a job as well they should be doing....

 

 

 

I disagree. An OC that knows what he is doing can make adjustments and call better plays to help a struggling o-line. If West is effective, you don't abandon the run game for that last 22 plays. Running the ball as effectively as West was doing, can take some pressure off the line in the passing game. And if the Redskins stay with the pass pressure, then West has a monster day. Yes, the pass protection for Joe is bad, but the OC made things a lot worse yesterday and for that he needs to be called out for and most of us have seen enough. It is the job of the coaches to get the most out of the players and play to their strengths, but I agree that we have a few players that are not performing like they should and also need to be held accountable.

[Deflated Football]

Please don't abandon the run Marty

[eek]

6 hours ago, Maryland said:

I'm honestly surprised the debate over Trestman is so one-sided. Usually there's a contingency of fans defending the coach.

I mean, looking at the offense as a whole, I still can't put all of the blame on Trestman. The OL came into this game missing Stanley, and with Wagner going out in the 2nd half, it became even more jumbled. Protection wasn't great between this game and last, and without great protection, it's harder to throw it deep, since deeper plays take time to develop. Plus, it seems like no one on this team other than Steve Smith can get separation, and no one except Steve and Pitta can make a tough catch in traffic. Perriman has had at least 1 drop per game, Wallace short-arms/body-catches everything, Moore has drop problems, and Aiken can't get separation to make a clean catch. Plus our run game was weak to start the season because Zuttah and Forsett were struggling, putting even more burden on Joe at the time, though the run game has improved since then.

So, I think you have to put some of the blame on the players for not executing. Anyone who wants to scapegoat Trestman for everything that is going wrong is being irrational. 

Having said all of that, I recognize that Trestman is definitely at fault for some amount of what has gone wrong. Abandoning the run is inexcusable, especially when the game is close, running is effective, and it would help mitigate the problems with pass-protection. The dink and dunks are far too frequent, though I wonder if this is more a factor of people not getting open downfield coupled with pressure (would need to watch all-22). Any penalty on offense kills the drive because we cannot possibly pick up penalty yardage + first down yardage with our dink-and-dunk style, and it seems our offense generates a lot of holding penalties, at least the past few games. 

I'm hoping Harbaugh and the players can have a discussion and work themselves through their problems without firing Trestman--that's probably what they'll do and then re-assess near the BYE. It's unrealistic to expect Trestman to be fired this early imo.

I have no problem with dink and dunk either--that's what offenses like the Patriots and Andy Reid do. However, they also use the run effectively and take a deep shot down-field every now and then for big gains. Trestman seems to be too reliant on dump-offs and screen passes. 

I agree with you about the o line, i noticed that after wagner went out pass protection went to crap. but our run blocking was still strong, we should've went to more running after wagner went out, but we went with more passing instead which sank us since we couldn't block anyone

[cobrajet]

2 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

Mike and mike just announced breaking news tressman fired seconds ago. 

Thank God!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not happy a man lost his job, but he needed to go.

[jimmypowder]

Trestman is going to be fired per ESPN. 

 

You knew this was coming. 

[rmw10]

Definitely a move that had to be made.  You could tell yesterday during a lot of the pressers for the offensive players that Trestman had lost the trust of the locker room.  No one said it directly, but the frustration, especially from Flacco, was obvious.

[Tank 92]

Wowser.

Playbook will have to remain the same. Hopefully Marty can use some imagination and establish rhythm.

[jimmypowder]

Just now, rmw10 said:

Definitely a move that had to be made.  You could tell yesterday during a lot of the pressers for the offensive players that Trestman had lost the trust of the locker room.  No one said it directly, but the frustration, especially from Flacco, was obvious.

Flacco was never a fan of Trestman's play calling. 

[K-Dog]

Loosing to the Skins must be an OC ejector seat.

[darklight1216]

Firing OCs after losing to Washington is becoming a trend... unfortunately,that means losing to Washington is now a trend. But hey, if the end result is the same I won't complain.

 

 

[AppStRavenfan]

Glad it didn't take forever like Cameron

[JoeCool1983]

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Marc Trestman fired.  Marty Mornhinweg new Offensive Coordinator

Edited October 10, 2016 by JoeCool1983

[Sizzlebshu]

Prayers have been answered

[rmw10]

Just too much talent on this team to be only scoring 10 points against a weak defense.

As expected...

 

[OUravensfan]

3 hours ago, darklight1216 said:

Nothing good has happened since Trestman arrived.

Harbs' record has been among the best in NFL history. Pees is a Superbowl winning coordinator. Cam Cameron helped a 5-11 team go  to the AFCCG despite being helmed by a rookie qb. 

Trestman has no defenders because there is nothing to defend. The Ravens are 8-13 since he arrived and have never won by more than 1 score with him.

He's gone 

[Sizzlebshu]

7 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

Wowser.

Playbook will have to remain the same. Hopefully Marty can use some imagination and establish rhythm.

 

Yeah but now we might use all of it including the running plays

[Jekkutin]

FINALLY. THANK YOU.

[Tru11]

so no more excuses for the offense?

[berad]

It was inexcusable to move away from the run after such great production from it in a one-score game.

[harfordravenfan]

Only read a little on Wikipedia about Marty Mornhinweg, it did say he ran a more balanced offense while on eagles.

What do you guys think about him?

[PurpleLDN]

I've stayed away from bashing Trestman or anyone as I believe that while anyone is part of the Ravens then they deserve our support but damn am I happy that he's gone. Let the turnaround begin and we can actually go back to enjoying Ravens Football

[Bryden88]

Mission Accomplished. Now to get back to winning.

[Sizzlebshu]

During his career as an Offensive Coordinator, Mornhinweg's offenses have finished 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 12th in total offense, and regularly highly ranked in big plays.