Merged: Ravens Fire Marc Trestman

[PurpleCity5]

Bo Smolka– ‏@bsmolkaRedskins had ranked last in league in 3rd-down D (opponents converted 57.4 pct.). Ravens 0-for-10 after 1st qtr #RavensTalk

[PurpleCity5]

There is so much more on twitter about how awful were on offense today.

[TurkishRaven]

6 minutes ago, flynismo said:

On 3rd and 13

And at home against one of the worst defense in the league.

Edited October 9, 2016 by TurkishRaven

[BmoreBird22]

39 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

@BmoreBird22 brought up a good point in promoting Engram. 

Yes, you can put me 100% in his corner.

[The Raven]

11 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Yes, you can put me 100% in his corner.

I'm curious. Sell me on it

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

12 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Yes, you can put me 100% in his corner.

Just wondering because I don't know much about Engram: what are his qualifications?

[cobrajet]

1 hour ago, JO_75 said:

This here I think why the myth that Biscotti fired Cam in 2012 exists. Harbs is too loyal to fire his coordinators, so most think that the call came from above him, being Steve.

I have always suspected that same thing also, so I doubt Trestman will be fired unless Steve has a meeting with someone.

[allblackraven]

4 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

Just wondering because I don't know much about Engram: what are his qualifications?

He's been WR coach all his coaching career so far. That hardly qualifies him but can he be worse than Trestman?

Edited October 9, 2016 by allblackraven

[Richmond_Raven]

What can we do to get Norv Turner out of Minnesota?

[BmoreBird22]

11 minutes ago, The Raven said:

I'm curious. Sell me on it

 

9 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

Just wondering because I don't know much about Engram: what are his qualifications?

This just goes back to when I was at VT and he was at Pitt, but I know before he was hired here, he had a very good WR duo in the nation with Devin Street and Mike Shanahan in 2012, his first year there. They were like 50 yards short, combined, from being 1,000 yard pass catchers, very unprecedented. They were both named All Big East. I also believe that Street and Tyler Boyd combined to be one of, if not the, best receiving duos in college in 2013. 

He was a key piece in the development and recruitment of Tyler Boyd.

I remember people used to always be scared of James Conner and that running game, but that passing game was always so dynamic and had such good pass catchers. Gosh, Tyler Boyd used to always kill the Hokies.

I was mistaken in saying he was an OC at Pitt earlier, but he was the key cog in the passing turnaround for Pitt. It went from being nothing to absolutely dynamic and dangerous.

A lot of people speculated as to whether or not Penn State would try to hire him away from the Ravens in 2015, but that obviously didn't happen.

Edited October 9, 2016 by BmoreBird22

[BmoreBird22]

4 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

He's been WR coach all his coaching career so far. That hardly qualifies him but can he be worse than Trestman?

He was an offensive assistant in SF, so surely he's got some experience with what it's like to call plays.

[The Raven]

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

 

This just goes back to when I was at VT and he was at Pitt, but I know before he was hired here, he had a very good WR duo in the nation with Devin Street and Mike Shanahan in 2012, his first year there. They were like 50 yards short, combined, from being 1,000 yard pass catchers, very unprecedented. They were both named All Big East. I also believe that Street and Tyler Boyd combined to be one of, if not the, best receiving duos in college in 2013. 

He was a key piece in the development and recruitment of Tyler Boyd.

I remember people used to always be scared of James Conner and that running game, but that passing game was always so dynamic and had such good pass catchers. Gosh, Tyler Boyd used to always kill the Hokies.

I was mistaken in saying he was an OC at Pitt earlier, but he was the key cog in the passing turnaround for Pitt. It went from being nothing to absolutely dynamic and dangerous.

I see it. What I like is that he seems like he can be a fiery guy, too, the kind of guy that players gravitate to. He's youngish for an NFL coach. Players like him. I'd be weary of handing over the system to a guy that's never called plays but... hey.

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, The Raven said:

I see it. What I like is that he seems like he can be a fiery guy, too, the kind of guy that players gravitate to. He's youngish for an NFL coach. Players like him. I'd be weary of handing over the system to a guy that's never called plays but... hey.

I think at this point you just can't get worse.

Pitt used to have a pretty good vertical attack with Devin Street and Tyler Boyd, two guys who are considered slot receivers now, so he's done some work with guys who aren't prototypical for a role.

He also really knows how to scheme open a receiver. During his time at Pitt, he just really knew how to open up the passing game and just find ways to get the ball into his play makers hands.

I was thrilled when he came to Baltimore. For as productive as he was in SEA and for as productive as he helped Pitt be, I could see the passing game taking on a new direction under Engram. 

[sflegend89]

Time to fire Trestman while this season still has life. He's had weeks and weeks to make adjustments and get on track and it's still the same anemic offense every Sunday.

What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results? Trestman has shown us what he can bring to the table and it's not up to scratch. I don't think he's necesarily a bad OC he just flat out is a bad fit.

[Europoljuice]

TAG LINE: NO OFFENCE AGAIN

Look lets face it. Even if we had real good line man ( and we don't ) Marc Tresman has a high school play book. We were 2nd and 20 and 3rd and 20 and he ran the ball up the middle. Come on man. You can not tell me that with all that experience and all the offensive minds over there. That is what he decided to call??? Give me a break.Its the same problem the Bears had with Tresman. Same mind set and same results. Yea..we had a few banged up line men but that is not always the excuse. I remember when they fired Cam for less. You will see the same results as we go forward. From game 1 to game 7 to game 15. Nothing will change. Mark My Words. 

NO Blocking, NO Wide Receiver Separation....NO Creative Plays. NO WIN AGAIN!!   Horrible

Edited October 9, 2016 by Europoljuice

[ravefan52]

Ya why not promote Engram. Most likely in house candidate and worst case we're looking for another OC in the offseason, which is already what the FO will be doing if they stick with Trestman. I will miss Chloe though tbh

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

19 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

He was an offensive assistant in SF, so surely he's got some experience with what it's like to call plays.

Can he call plays though?

[BmoreBird22]

5 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

Can he call plays though?

He's never done it, but if he's given the current playbook, I think he could do it given his NFL background.

[OUravensfan]

You're getting merged but no blocking and no separation is true. And DROPS

[Dre-Dog-31]

Let marty mornhinweg take over

[jimmypowder]

22 minutes ago, sflegend89 said:

Time to fire Trestman while this season still has life. He's had weeks and weeks to make adjustments and get on track and it's still the same anemic offense every Sunday.

What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results? Trestman has shown us what he can bring to the table and it's not up to scratch. I don't think he's necesarily a bad OC he just flat out is a bad fit.

You said it  . He's a bad fit . It's not to say Trestman couldn't succeed somewhere but here in 

 

crabtown , it's  a no . 

Edited October 10, 2016 by jimmypowder

[cwfRaven]

3 hours ago, Bandwagon said:

Come on boys lets get this trending on twitter and maybe we end up on a Ravens post

I tweeted, but to get it trending, is it better to retweet or like other #firetrestman tweets? Sorry, not much of a twitter user. 

[K-Dog]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

Flacco doesn't sound at all happy in his interview and it sounds like there's real tension here. I'm not sure if it's with Marc but you can tell Flacco is upset and tired of this and he's sick of not converting. Some change will come and I'm not sure what but it will come. There's no way the team sits idly by and does nothing to fix this. 

Ya know if I would have read this before seeing the presser for myself I would have blown it off and thought it was a bunch of blah, blah, blah. 
I saw the presser and I thought the exact same thing.  I was going to post something as well.
CLEARLY Joe is frusterated, and I don't think it is just with himself. ( see also T-West preser ) He did a great job keeping his mouth in check in the presser, as he should.  I would be COMPLETELY unprofessional to use that venue to express himself.  I don't doubt for a second this week Joe is going to talk to someone who could do something about this.  I would not surprise me if something changes this week, weather we see it or it changes behind closed doors, who knows.  I think Joe carries enough clout that if he sees something that needs to be addressed, I think it will be addressed. 

[RaineV1]

2 hours ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

If not Trestman, than who? What options do we have at mid season? Anybody good out there without a job?

Coach Mornhinweg. Plenty of experience as an OC and his offenses were consistently among the top 10, and he didn't have the problem with second seasons Trestman has. Also, due to his awful stint as a HC, he might not get snached away that fast.

[BmoreBird22]

Saw this on Wikipedia

During his career as an Offensive Coordinator, Mornhinweg's offenses have finished 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 12th in total offense, and regularly highly ranked in big plays.

He also has coached every single offensive position.

[omar586]

omg, we should have hired OC kyle shanhan, kubiak was awesome for us. trestman is garbage, and what the heck is wrong with harb trying to be "aggressive", u run  those kinds of plays when u r leading with big lead

Edited October 10, 2016 by omar586

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Saw this on Wikipedia

During his career as an Offensive Coordinator, Mornhinweg's offenses have finished 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 12th in total offense, and regularly highly ranked in big plays.

He also has coached every single offensive position.

Yeah. With all due respect to your Engram proposal, I think the safer and smarter decision is to go with Mornhinweg. 

Bearing all this in mind, Trestman might not even be fired.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

4 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Saw this on Wikipedia

During his career as an Offensive Coordinator, Mornhinweg's offenses have finished 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 12th in total offense, and regularly highly ranked in big plays.

He also has coached every single offensive position.

 

Didn't he do a lot of that with "The Sanchize".

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

Quote

"... and regularly highly ranked in big plays." --Wiki

We need this.

[Davesta]

Time to do a online petition aka Twitter trending post and hope Steve sees it. Because we all know harbs ain't Gon do it himself.