[News] The Breakdown: Eisenberg's Five Thoughts vs. Washington Redskins

[Jr.Morgan]

How do you open the game with a 75 yard drive for a TD, Then nothing? Then in the last 2 minutes try to recover once again. Sure would be nice for Joe to show some urgency early in the game instead of the last 2 minutes.

[letitgosometimes]

Watching this game in a bar on the other side of the planet with a bunch of skins fans at the next table (what are the odds) .... Watching this game made me feel like a Browns fan, it really did.

You nailed it!

[law215]

I'm not saying Trestman is not terrible cause he definitely is . Every season the offense can not put a full game together. Every OC looks like someone that needs to be fired.. When do you start to look at your QB?

I said during the offseason, when the Ravens FO office was bringing in Wallace and Watson. This is the year for no excuses for Joe Flacco. He has size, speed, and experience from his receivers. The talent is there, but is walking around with a 79.7 QB rating.

After 9 years, he is still the QB that runs the play as they are called without diagnosing the defense to take advantage of matchups and alignments.

My Five things to watch before the game

1. Will Joe throw accurately today? Somewhat
2. Does he protect the football? Yes
3. Is his play consistent all 4 quarters? No
4. Is he making adjustments at the line? No
5. Joe’s production. He facing a defense that gives up the run and pass. Can he be ‘the guy’ that gets the offense going? No

Post game Joe is complaining about the play calling and last week he is complaining about throwing the ball down the field. Joe that's your job. Throw the ball accurately down field!

Physically Joe is elite. He has the big arm, mobility, toughness. Above the neck he is below average. That is one of the biggest reason the offense struggles. It was the same under Cam and under Caldwell.

Joe, spend extra time with the receiver and watch film. Get your mental game and fundamentals improved.

[letitgosometimes]

  10 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

  10 hours ago, CQ1 said:

  10 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Wrong wrong wrong Joe isn't cutting it! PERIOD! Don't tell people it's Trestman fault or the O line fault it's not gonna work Joe isn't cutting it and it's time someone speak up! Smh yall point fingers at everyone but him! He is done in Bmore!

Its Mallett time!

YES!!!!!!!!!

Joe Flacco is a way better quarterback than Ryan mallet. Joe Flacco is not the problem it's the play calling and the offensive line being hurt. Flacco will continue to be the Ravens guy for years to come.

Block for him, different outcomes. Keep two backs in the backfield, different outcomes. Run out of the I with a lead blocker, different outcomes. It is a simple game; OC must figure this out soon, or same outcome.

[Purple Dawg 96]

It's in black and white above "the biggest problem is the passing game" but they calling me names when I say it about Joe! I like Joe but lately he isn't cutting it excuse after excuse! I figured when the run game gets going we would not win them games because you do not depend on the run to start games you run to finish them and now look! CJ made a big mistake true enough but I don't think Joe can handle the pressure anymore and it mite be time for a change! Sincerely The Troll Lol

[Ravensfansince03]

FIRE HARBAAUGH. I said it last year!! Now we are in an even deeper whole stuck here with Trestman SMDH!!

[Ravensfansince03]

I don't blame Flacco, we all know he's not consistent. I blame the COACHES for allowing him to throw pass after pass after pass after pass SMH. I couldn't believe how much this offense kept passing the ball given the lack of reliable receivers we have.

[Ravensfansince03]

Harbaugh is stripping this team of his core values. Being the run game. Hiring Trestman was just another blow to the fans who have been here long before Harbaugh arrived.

[tony468]

We have everything we need," said Ravens coach John Harbaugh. "But, we can't play like that, and make the mistakes we made in this game and win the football game."

I don't know, but sounds like he is throwing players under the bus.
He mentions Gilmore slipping on the fake FG attempt (on 4 and 12 SMH)
Mosley poor technique.
Lack of protection for the QB
Blamed young guys not stepping up on special teams

The play calling killed them and he is not apologizing for that.
How can you say you have the right scheme when your offense can only put 10 points on the board at home.

I don't know if it's blind arrogance, incompetence , or stupidity.

You are right, Harbs is arrogance is going to kill us every week....just saying 11 rushed for 95 yards, why stop rushing against a weak run defense. Stupidity

[J.O.14]

Defense is good enough to keep us in every game we play.

Offense is bad enough to lose us most of those games we are in.

Yesterday was embarrassing. We looked awful. We abandoned the run, simple as that. West should have finished with 20+ carries. We were backed up inside the 10 and West didn't touch the ball once. We threw it 3 times in a row and punted.

We also have the best kicker in the league. When we struggle to score points, take what you can get. Stupid mistakes are killing the Ravens, along with some questionable coaching decisions.

[Doc]

It is NOT Flacco or Harbaugh both have a decent track record together , It's Trestman and The OL same as last year too many INJURIES

[Ravensfansince03]

I posted a comment on here right when the second quarter ended. About the way Harbaugh choose to have us go for it on 4th down & long with 1 SECOND left on the clock. I said that he killed the momentum for the team. Not only did it kill the momentum, we came back out and played pass happy for the rest of the game.

FIRE DUMBAUGH FIRE TRESTWOMAN.......GET RAY LEWIS IN HERE!!

[DBsRAVENS]

1. This team is trending down. Every team we play looks like a playoff team, a good defense. I'm tired of the apologies and the we'll keep working at it.


2. Joe has been in the league 9 years. Has yet to have a 4,000 yard season. Too many ball are either high or at receivers feet. The 6 yard passes on 3rd and long are embarrassing. There are rookies playing better than Joe. he has a 79.7 rating so far and every team has had a bad defense. Elite? That's not even good.

3. Trestman has to go. I do not consider firing him a knee jerk reaction. We had all of last season to see how terrible he is. Let the rest of the season determine if his replacement is here or somewhere else

4. Harbs is arrogant. Not only does he not own the poor fake field goal call or moving away from the running game, he called out Mosley on 'technique" and mentions it was costly. he could lose some players especially since the defense has been the only bright spot this season.

5. The boo birds were out and who could blame them. Someone seat is getting hot. If there is no improvement before the bye week, expect changes.

Well said!

[DBsRAVENS]

Yes, Trestman did abandon the running game. No one has to even see the numbers 8 out of the final 45 plays to know that we abandoned the running game.

Apparently the head coach needs to see the numbers as he admitted he didn't realize or think they abandoned the run game. WOW!

[Ravensfansince03]

The fans are looking at Ozzie Newsome to make the right decision. He's the manager, I expect him to manage this fiasco going on with our offense. We will see if Ozzie is capable of making the right judgment calls pertaining to our coaches, in these post Ray Lewis times.

[Halshayeji]

13 hours ago, MichaelJ34 said:

So I didn't get to see the game who is this loss on?... and is this a panic time that we may lose a lot cuz of the back loaded schedule that is quite tougher. And what changes need to be made to fix this team.

I'll sum it up for you. We dominated the first half but gave up a stupid punt return TD and abandoned the runing game for some reason.

second half we get 2 first downs on our first 6 possessions. Literally playing hot potato. "Get the ball" give it right back!!!!

the o line did well and the team as a whole faught till the end but it was just one of those days. Flacco looked like a rookie with that wind blowing the way it was. Yet, Trestman decides to abandon the run that was working perfectly in the first half!

 

i can't believe this! Just Fire Trestman already!

 

[Ravensfansince03]

I'm about to go Donald Trump on these guys........ Because I believe that our coaches lack the judgment, and are totally incompetent when it comes to running this baltimore offense.

This is probably the worst I've seen our offense perform, in forever. Bailing out on the run game?!? Short passes to the FB?!?

Not since medieval times have we seen play calling so prehistoric. Our leaders are totally incompetent guys. They should be ashamed. We need coaches that want to keep pounding the ball, coaches that want Baltimore to be a feared and respected team again.

We need to make the Ravens GREAT AGAIN!!

[KidNme]

  9 hours ago, Minionhunter said:

  10 hours ago, MadMaxDj said:

  12 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Joe is done I'm in favor of Ryan Mallet starting and I except all yall criticism because it don't fly over here! Blaming the O line and Trestman is getting old other players are getting replaced or cut but one! It is whut it is! That's two in a row at home SMH!

this purple dog 96 is the same dude that for the whole past year was advocating benching joe in favor of schaub, claiming we would have won the superbowl with him...

until when they actually were FORCED to play him, and then he shut his mouth up...

Yep purple dawg is a troll who just hates Joe.

A Troll huh Lol better not say that to my face buddy! But just like I said Mallet beat the hottest team in football with backups and look now couldn't get a first down last week and came up short Sunday! Fingers are pointed at every player on this team but one! Sincerely the Troll! Lol
P S collecting championships over Cavs Buckeyes and maybe Indians so call me what you like BUDDY I'm good!

I'm with you Purple Troll LOL. It's not all Joe's fault of course, there's plenty of blame to go around (Suggs off side penalties every game, Perrimans dropped passes, Smith and Geesh wright not being very good in coverage, Special teams putting a whole new meaning to "special" and so much more) but Joe is not playing like a multi million dollar man by any stretch. Cousins smoked him and looked way more poised! I was yelling at the TV when they were trying to draw Washington off sides and Joe didn't even TRY to work it at all! He just stood there looking at the sideline. Really ticked me off. As far as many saying Joe is still hurt and to give him a break well, He seems to be able to roll out of the pocket twice to make plays Sunday and even Harbs himself said that "We don't put guys out there that aren't 100%, we just don't do that". Joe is fine physically just not as an Elite QB. He throws off his back foot too much and is a statue most of the time. They need to practice more with rushers coming at him to teach him to move around in the pocket more. Almost every other QB in the league moves a little in the pocket when needed. It's going to be a dismal season because there's nothing we can do to fix this unless we have a bunch of stars on the practice squad!

[The Greek]

this is the roster the great front office drafted or signed. they need to shoulder some blame as well. pass rush has been worse with doom back. the young kids were getting it done the 1st 3 games

[Drew P]

The inactive list is pretty much the current draft class.

There isn't a WR besides SSS that is consistent.

These games are just not enjoyable dating back to the loss the Patsies in the playoffs.

The D has no identity and inside the 20's is average at best.

Injuries are a lame excuse see Dallas and Minn.

Big plays only come in the form of bad penalty calls against the opposition..Compton played his butt of yesterday.

It seems there are more negative plays than positive.

The bottom line is..the coaching staff across the board is clueless. Running powder puff bush league plays against a 4th team defense is appalling.

The draft picks are just not that good...

Edited October 10, 2016 by Drew P
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[Drinkmore Beer]

The bottom line is that Flacco is nowhere near "elite" (reserve that term for Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Rothlisberger). He's average. That being the case, abandoning a running game that is working to throw 80% of the time to receivers who drop key catches is just stupid. Clearly, Trestman's play-calling is not suited to this team and Biscotti needs to make a change.

[Rav'n Maniac]

cj mosly is a moron

LOL, the pot calling the kettle black. Takes one to know one.

[ravlivie]

Harbaugh is stripping this team of his core values. Being the run game. Hiring Trestman was just another blow to the fans who have been here long before Harbaugh arrived.

you hit the nail on the head, he should go

[krnraven]

RUN THE DAMN BALL. When we mix our play calls we score. When we become one dimensional we stall. And you definitely run the ball when the o-line is in Flux. Two games in a row where running the ball more would have changed the results. Fire Trestman today!!!!!

[jdynamite]

You see those comments and it's like really Harbaugh: you didn't think Tressman abandoned the run game when only 8 out of 45 plays in last 3 quarters that's 17.8% of plays.  There was just no excuse for it Terrence west was ripping them apart and buck Allen had 2 good runs 

[ravlivie]

Harbaugh says the same thing time & time again, but he takes no action. Hires
bad coaches & sticks with them---we end losing. We have good players but not good coaching. When are we going to have someone who will take action & not
just provide lip service?

[Rav'n Maniac]

I absolutely love talking football, especially Ravens football. Although, I really need to remember not to come on this site after a loss. After reading some of the posts, I have come to the conclusion that there are some intelligent people here, but they're few and far between.

Edited October 10, 2016 by Rav'n Maniac

[whobilly]

You see those comments and it's like really Harbaugh: you didn't think Tressman abandoned the run game when only 8 out of 45 plays in last 3 quarters that's 17.8% of plays.  There was just no excuse for it Terrence west was ripping them apart and buck Allen had 2 good runs 

That's why Tressman just was let go

[Black&purple#55]

About time, finally some good news guys> Marc Trestman fired !!!

[CQ1]

  11 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

  12 hours ago, CQ1 said:

  12 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Wrong wrong wrong Joe isn't cutting it! PERIOD! Don't tell people it's Trestman fault or the O line fault it's not gonna work Joe isn't cutting it and it's time someone speak up! Smh yall point fingers at everyone but him! He is done in Bmore!

Its Mallett time!

YES!!!!!!!!!

Joe Flacco is a way better quarterback than Ryan mallet. Joe Flacco is not the problem it's the play calling and the offensive line being hurt. Flacco will continue to be the Ravens guy for years to come.

"better" paid / politically- so he'll have to play. Joe was lucky to get to and win the Super Bowl. Look how many games he gave away to Pittsburgh in the playoffs before those years. Look how bad we looked getting into the playoffs the Super Bowl year. Now, he finally has the weapons, and has been through how many offensive coordinators- what is the issue ?