[News] Joe Flacco: Offense Is 'Not Fun,' 'Embarrassing,' 'Frustrating'

[jdynamite]

It's frustrating to watch this offense weekly.  

After Training Camp, Preseason, and a quarter of the NFL Season over already with 5 games in the books. I think we are nearing borderline insanity, repeating the same crappy gameplan with very little in game or week to week adjustments.  

The only adjustments this offense made yesterday were the subs due to injuries & abandoning the run game completely ( which was successful )  

For Harbaugh to still be repeating weekly "we have to find our offense" or " we think the offense is close" makes very little sense, when the offense is inept for maybe 75% of every game. 

I don't even understand how the HC let his OC abandon a successful rushing attack in game that was close the entire day.  

 

[jdynamite]

Some of the decisions are so baffling it's 3rd and 9 near the 20 yard line, rather than let Flacco throw the ball and attempt a first down or Touchdown. We run it on 3rd and 9 essentially settling for a FG (right...) wrong! Then we go for a fake FG, now I don't understand the flawed thinking that 3rd and 9 was too long to attempt a pass with our QB but 4th and 11 was just perfect for our kicker to try a fake FG pass?   

 

Setup dump off passes to Gilmore the least athletic TE on the roster, but no WR smoke screens, crossing patterns to WRs. 

Commentators talking about how the man to man coverage is locking everything down, meanwhile WRs running 7 yard routes and sitting.  There isn't any downfield complementary routes that draws defenders away creating passing lanes. 

If teams are playing man all day put some WRs in motion, to create spacing in those underneath routes so WRs can be hit in stride.. 

Edited October 10, 2016 by jdynamite

[bravensfan52]

I think this is Joe saying Trestman has to go

[FloridalovesRavens]

Fix it. Let Flacco loose. Stop the dink and dunk.

[Rav'n Maniac]

I think this is Joe saying Trestman has to go

I agree. Joe's not going to come out and throw someone under the bus. He's saying it in his mannerism, no doubt he's frustrated.

Although, I don't see any changes being made any time soon because Harbs takes too much pride in his coaching selections. He has shown that throughout his time here with holding onto both Mattison and Cam too long.

[stixfix69]

Monday morning blues after a loss....Sucks....

[Purple Dawg 96]

What happened to the gunslinger where did he go because I don't recognize this dude under center!

[TheKingFlip31]

Let's fire Trestman and let Mornhinweg be our OC till the season ends....if it doesn't work....hire Joe Philbin

[Derrel]

Some of the decisions are so baffling it's 3rd and 9 near the 20 yard line, rather than let Flacco throw the ball and attempt a first down or Touchdown. We run it on 3rd and 9 essentially settling for a FG (right...) wrong! Then we go for a fake FG, now I don't understand the flawed thinking that 3rd and 9 was too long to attempt a pass with our QB but 4th and 11 was just perfect for or kicked to try a fake FG pass?   

 

Setup dump off passes to Gilmore the least athletic TE on the roster, but no WR smoke screens, crossing patterns to WRs. 

Commentators talking about how the man to man coverage is locking everything down, meanwhile WRs running 7 yard routes and sitting.  There isn't any downfield complementary routes that draws defenders away creating passing lanes. 

If teams are playing man all day put some WRs in motion, to create spacing in those underneath routes so WRs can be hit in stride.. 

...and when Harbs was asked about the decision on the fake FG he seemed angry to be asked. Shows you his ego got in the way again. Clearly, that was bad play selection and he gave up 3 points. He gets a by for the rest of this season but Trestman goes at the break. I think they lose one of the games @ NJ. It they finish out of the playoffs, Harbs has had it. A question, is Flacco on the downside already?

[20306cab]

  3 hours ago, jdynamite said:

Some of the decisions are so baffling it's 3rd and 9 near the 20 yard line, rather than let Flacco throw the ball and attempt a first down or Touchdown. We run it on 3rd and 9 essentially settling for a FG (right...) wrong! Then we go for a fake FG, now I don't understand the flawed thinking that 3rd and 9 was too long to attempt a pass with our QB but 4th and 11 was just perfect for or kicked to try a fake FG pass?   

 

Setup dump off passes to Gilmore the least athletic TE on the roster, but no WR smoke screens, crossing patterns to WRs. 

Commentators talking about how the man to man coverage is locking everything down, meanwhile WRs running 7 yard routes and sitting.  There isn't any downfield complementary routes that draws defenders away creating passing lanes. 

If teams are playing man all day put some WRs in motion, to create spacing in those underneath routes so WRs can be hit in stride.. 

...and when Harbs was asked about the decision on the fake FG he seemed angry to be asked. Shows you his ego got in the way again. Clearly, that was bad play selection and he gave up 3 points. He gets a by for the rest of this season but Trestman goes at the break. I think they lose one of the games @ NJ. It they finish out of the playoffs, Harbs has had it. A question, is Flacco on the downside already?

Harbaugh is turning into Showalter. Winning be damned! They're going to stick to their egomaniacal guns whether it helps the team or not. If a ridiculous move, (like ignoring the greatest closer in MLB, or the best kicker in the NFL) doesn't work, they can blame everyone else. If it does work, (which it never does) they can bask in the light of their self importance. Basically, Self Righteous John cost the Ravens the last two games along with Far Below Average Joe. The answer to your question is NO. Far Below Average Joe never had an upside.

[eek]

Seems some people didn't realize ricky wagner went out in the 2nd quarter and never came back. Once Wagner went out our O Line went to poo. Jensen and Urschel couldn't block anything after that point.

[eek]

32 minutes ago, Derrel said:

...and when Harbs was asked about the decision on the fake FG he seemed angry to be asked. Shows you his ego got in the way again. Clearly, that was bad play selection and he gave up 3 points. He gets a by for the rest of this season but Trestman goes at the break. I think they lose one of the games @ NJ. It they finish out of the playoffs, Harbs has had it. A question, is Flacco on the downside already?

flacco's not dropping passes and not calling plays

[RailBird]

It's the playcalling that is slowly destroying Flacco. They had an amazing first drive with a combination of running and passing the ball. Then suddenly they just decide to abandon the run and it all goes downhill from there.
We have all these speedy WRs on the roster but all they do is run some dumb routes that are too easy to cover resulting in short passes for maybe 3 yards or screen passes for loss.

[whobilly]

Trestman just fired

[whobilly]

It's the playcalling that is slowly destroying Flacco. They had an amazing first drive with a combination of running and passing the ball. Then suddenly they just decide to abandon the run and it all goes downhill from there.
We have all these speedy WRs on the roster but all they do is run some dumb routes that are too easy to cover resulting in short passes for maybe 3 yards or screen passes for loss.

Trestman gone.

[jdynamite]

8 minutes ago, eek said:

Seems some people didn't realize ricky wagner went out in the 2nd quarter and never came back. Once Wagner went out our O Line went to poo. Jensen and Urschel couldn't block anything after that point.

 

Thats even more reason to keep the run game going. They had to reshuffle the oline, move Yanda to RT, Jensen to RG. 

West had 3 good runs to the left side and buck Allen had a good run to the left also.

Running game was going strong, Oline experienced an injury and rather than continue to run in a closely contested game they went to passing every single down and it wasn't a diverse passing attack which is why the CBS were able to just sit on every single short route. Rarely any Pre-snap motioning, crossing routes to free guys up.  

 

Guys upfront arent playing their normal positions they never even had a chance to settle in, because the defense could just rush up field every single play with no run attempts at all. 

[whobilly]

Next OC? MT just let go

[Bat-mite]

Whoa, whoa, wait a minute. While I'll agree that Trestman is not the long-term solution, and maybe he makes some bad calls, let's keep in mind that your play selection is EXTREMELY limited when your offensive line can't protect the QB.

Joe was rushed, sacked, chased, and hit so many times after Wagner left the game that the options were very limited. If the line can't open holes for a run, then you can't run. If the receivers don't have time to get down the field because the QB is being chased, then you don't make deep throws.

And when we did make deep throws, Perriman let one go through his hands, and then he came down out of bounds in the endzone.

Firing Trestman (and I'm not saying that's a bad idea, but you better have someone better to replace him with) will not fix the lack of depth on the O-line, not will it make Perriman catch deep passes. Nor will it give Flacco time to wait for his receivers to get open.

[OUravensfan]

Wow. He's gone

[Crusader]

Marc did it too himself but still does fix the offensive line.

[Ravenshine]

Seems some people didn't realize ricky wagner went out in the 2nd quarter and never came back. Once Wagner went out our O Line went to poo. Jensen and Urschel couldn't block anything after that point.

Yes so the backups need to get the job done but they are not. But worse than that is injuries will come into play. Because the Skins weren't out to do serious damage to us, they are not nasty rivals with us. But what about the future games where we play a nasty rival? Steelers for example. Think they want to cause some hurt? I do. And as we are right now, we can't hold off any Defensive rush. And that level of 'ugly' play to come in future games, and I'm not even talking illegal plays, just the level of forceful playing to come...is something our current OL can't handle because they can't even handle a friendly rivals level of play. A low ranked defenses's level of play.

They better do something about this. Pronto.

[TheKingFlip31]

Let's fire Trestman and let Mornhinweg be our OC till the season ends....if it doesn't work....hire Joe Philbin

OOOO!

[Ravenshine]

Whoa, whoa, wait a minute. While I'll agree that Trestman is not the long-term solution, and maybe he makes some bad calls, let's keep in mind that your play selection is EXTREMELY limited when your offensive line can't protect the QB.

Joe was rushed, sacked, chased, and hit so many times after Wagner left the game that the options were very limited. If the line can't open holes for a run, then you can't run. If the receivers don't have time to get down the field because the QB is being chased, then you don't make deep throws.

And when we did make deep throws, Perriman let one go through his hands, and then he came down out of bounds in the endzone.

Firing Trestman (and I'm not saying that's a bad idea, but you better have someone better to replace him with) will not fix the lack of depth on the O-line, not will it make Perriman catch deep passes. Nor will it give Flacco time to wait for his receivers to get open.

Exactly. Plays just don't get time to fully set up. Flacco was on the run no sooner than the ball came out through much of the game. Can't expect ANYTHING to go as it should when they can't even set it up the way it's supposed to work in the first place.

[OUravensfan]

51 minutes ago, eek said:

Seems some people didn't realize ricky wagner went out in the 2nd quarter and never came back. Once Wagner went out our O Line went to poo. Jensen and Urschel couldn't block anything after that point.

You mean Mathmatics doesn't translate to a good O lineman?

[RavenLunatic]

Well Joe. I honestly hope things are different for you now that Trestman is gone. I hope Marty has a better feel for the game. I hope he better utilizes our players and I hope you are in a better position to WIN.

GO RAVENS!!!

[Cawtious]

1 hour ago, OUravensfan said:

You mean Mathmatics doesn't translate to a good O lineman?

You stop running the ball, and all they do is pin their ears back and come for you.  This will change with Trestman gone. 

[OUravensfan]

41 minutes ago, Cawtious said:

You stop running the ball, and all they do is pin their ears back and come for you.  This will change with Trestman gone. 

It really is insane, you're kind of sick when you see West only had 11 carries, I know Biscotti was not happy. 

[Bat-mite]

51 minutes ago, Cawtious said:

You stop running the ball, and all they do is pin their ears back and come for you.  This will change with Trestman gone. 

How do you know that?  It didn't change when Cam left; it didn't change when Caldwell left.  The only person who did anything differently was Kubiak, and we all knew he wouldn't last.

[fusuymada]

Moseley's sorry he made that blunder play in the endzone, Perrimans sorry he dropped the ball saying "he has to make that catch", Flacco is embarrassed by the offenses plays (should be embarrassed he hit more feet than hands), Harbaugh said he coached a lousy game (but won't apologize for his stupidest decision) and it seems like everybody is saying I did a crappy job which is great but these same guys have been saying the same thing for the last 5 weeks. Enough of the "my bad" crap we have been hearing and lets stop the stupid plays. No more "MY BAD", do your darn jobs the way you were coached to do them.

Okay, now, everyone made Trestman the scapegoat and he deserved the axe, but I could have seen this game easily be a 28-16 game on the plays missed by players, not plays screwed up by the coach. Of course, ultimately its the coach, but now that they chopped Trestman, Harbaugh, Perriman, Flacco, Wallace and the O-Line don't have anyone else to blame, they better start producing or their rear ends should be next.

[fusuymada]

  1 hour ago, Cawtious said:

You stop running the ball, and all they do is pin their ears back and come for you.  This will change with Trestman gone. 

How do you know that?  It didn't change when Cam left; it didn't change when Caldwell left.  The only person who did anything differently was Kubiak, and we all knew he wouldn't last.

Thats just blatantly false. "It didn't change when Cam left;" - Do you remember that when cameron left, Caldwell won the Super Bowl. "it didn't change when Caldwell left" It did change when Caldwell left because it was Kubiak and you said "The only person who did anything differently was Kubiak", which makes no sense after saying it didn't change after Caldwell because Kubiak followed Caldwell. You argued your point and then proved you were wrong. You need to go back and look at what you said because you are just flat wrong and obviously a very confused person when it comes to the history of the OCs for the Ravens.