[News] Joe Flacco: Offense Is 'Not Fun,' 'Embarrassing,' 'Frustrating'

[BR News]

The Ravens posted just 306 yards of total offense against the NFL's No. 29-ranked defense. Baltimore was shut out in the second half and ran the ball sparingly after getting off to a good start.

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[purpledown]

Trestman has to go, West is running the ball good and he doesnt get anymore carries. No excuses for that. The talent on this team is not what we thought it was when they were 3-0. This is the second game that they gave away, sounds like last year to me.

[Scottish Guy]

Trestman has to go. It even sounds like Joe is almost criticising him slightly, so it must be really bad. We've looked like Trestman's Chicago Bears the last few weeks.

I've never been a Flacco critic in my life but this season he has been so inaccurate that I honestly think we might be better with Mallett. At the end of last season and in preseason he managed to find worse recievers more accurately than Joe has so far.

[smiley4660]

Truly an embarassing loss (again)... Defense gets props. Offense gets a big fat 0 (zero)...

[smiley4660]

Truly an embarassing loss (again)... Defense gets props. Offense gets a big fat 0 (zero)...

Exception on offense is Terrance West! Great game again with over 8 yards gained per carry!

[Flamengo1265]

It's great that the Ravens have a big armed QB, too bad he only has about 1 second before the pocket collapses on each passing play. I'll be surprised if Flacco is still healthy at the end of this season.

[OUravensfan]

24 minutes ago, Scottish Guy said:

Trestman has to go. It even sounds like Joe is almost criticising him slightly, so it must be really bad. We've looked like Trestman's Chicago Bears the last few weeks.

I've never been a Flacco critic in my life but this season he has been so inaccurate that I honestly think we might be better with Mallett. At the end of last season and in preseason he managed to find worse recievers more accurately than Joe has so far.

It's clear you have no grasp of reality if you think that. 

[robbie29]

I remember in August and early September when people kept saying "This might be the most talented group of receivers that Joe has ever had." Since then, this offense has gradually become more and more of a joke.

[Fastynart]

It is embarrassing to watch this so called offense blunder its way through the game. Too many three and outs. Too many mistakes. By now, the excuses don't work. They are just not a good team, period. They haven't played anyone good yet, but oh, that is coming soon. If you think they looked bad against the Raiders and Redskins, wait until they play Pittsburgh, New England, Philadelphia, and the Cowboys. Even Cincinnati, which was pretty bad today, will feast on them. It is going to be brutal. The only good that may come of it is that Harbaugh and his whole incompetent crew will be fired. Fingers crossed on that one.

[robbie29]

Some might consider this blasphemy- but why not consider re-hiring Cam Cameron? He wasn't the best, but he for darn sure wasn't as bad as Trestman. There's also something to be said for the fact that every year Cameron was OC, the Ravens managed to make the postseason. At this rate under Trestman, the Ravens will be lucky to finish at .500.

[AZRaven520]

The O-Line should take some of the blame as well. Flacco is constantly pressured and it's leading to those inaccurate awkward throws. The run game looked good to start, but I'm sure West made a lot of that happen himself, and then just shut down.
I was optimistic about them gelling and putting up points. Now, I'm a little worried with 2 more games before the difficult part of schedule comes. If they don't figure out a way to make this offense function efficiently it's going to be a rough 2nd half of the season.

But I was a Ravens fan at 5-11 and I'll still be a Ravens fan with whatever record we end up with this season.

LET'S GO RAVENS!! IT'S NOT OVER YET!!

[Ugly Ball]

The O-Line should take some of the blame as well. Flacco is constantly pressured and it's leading to those inaccurate awkward throws. The run game looked good to start, but I'm sure West made a lot of that happen himself, and then just shut down.
I was optimistic about them gelling and putting up points. Now, I'm a little worried with 2 more games before the difficult part of schedule comes. If they don't figure out a way to make this offense function efficiently it's going to be a rough 2nd half of the season.

But I was a Ravens fan at 5-11 and I'll still be a Ravens fan with whatever record we end up with this season.

LET'S GO RAVENS!! IT'S NOT OVER YET!!

Really, how about 3 and 11 ?

[Ugly Ball]

  8 minutes ago, AZRaven520 said:

The O-Line should take some of the blame as well. Flacco is constantly pressured and it's leading to those inaccurate awkward throws. The run game looked good to start, but I'm sure West made a lot of that happen himself, and then just shut down.
I was optimistic about them gelling and putting up points. Now, I'm a little worried with 2 more games before the difficult part of schedule comes. If they don't figure out a way to make this offense function efficiently it's going to be a rough 2nd half of the season.

But I was a Ravens fan at 5-11 and I'll still be a Ravens fan with whatever record we end up with this season.

LET'S GO RAVENS!! IT'S NOT OVER YET!!

Really, how about 3 and 11 ?

I meant 3 and 13 !

[stixfix69]

Nuff said

[MichaelJ34]

How does a running back only get 11 carries in a 1 score game there is really no reason to abandon the run unless you are being blown out . Why is Harbaugh constantly screwing up decision making and taking points off the board for gimmicks plays that RARELY work. There has to be some decisions made about coaching on offense for sure.

[MichaelJ34]

And the Flacco comments that it's embarrassing and not fun and frustrating are kind of a statement to say he isn't a fan of Trestman or this offensive scheme?

[Crusader]

Well Joe if you have a offensive line that was better than 29th in the league it would not be embarrassing. Just think. you have a whole year some times two years to get ready to play less than 30 minutes a game and you still suck.

[BiggMack91]

can we fire trestmen now?

[Keeper_85]

can we fire trestmen now?

YES PLEASE

[Cillmatic]

1 hour ago, robbie29 said:

Some might consider this blasphemy- but why not consider re-hiring Cam Cameron? He wasn't the best, but he for darn sure wasn't as bad as Trestman. There's also something to be said for the fact that every year Cameron was OC, the Ravens managed to make the postseason. At this rate under Trestman, the Ravens will be lucky to finish at .500.

so, you want us to purposely hire a bad OC simply because he's not as bad as the one we have now?

[Keeper_85]

And the Flacco comments that it's embarrassing and not fun and frustrating are kind of a statement to say he isn't a fan of Trestman or this offensive scheme?

The last time we fired an OC we won the Super Bowl.

[Keeper_85]

Some might consider this blasphemy- but why not consider re-hiring Cam Cameron? He wasn't the best, but he for darn sure wasn't as bad as Trestman. There's also something to be said for the fact that every year Cameron was OC, the Ravens managed to make the postseason. At this rate under Trestman, the Ravens will be lucky to finish at .500.

Why don't we go find some young new talent instead of washed up old head coaches

[darklight1216]

6 minutes ago, Keeper_85 said:

Why don't we go find some young new talent instead of washed up old head coaches

Agreed. When Cameron left his playbook was: 1st down=Rice up the middle for little to no gain, 2nd=Rice up the middle for little to no gain, 3rd=long pass down the sideline.

They would need to have an offensive line that could help force an effective run game down the opposing team's throat and that is obviously lacking. 

A coach like Kubiak who can adapt and disguise an offenses deficiencies might be helpful, but Cam is not that guy. They need offensive linemen.

[AZRaven520]

2 hours ago, Ugly Ball said:

I meant 3 and 13 !

You talking about the record?

 

If so, then yeah!.. I'm not going to abandon my team for losing. C'mon now.. loyalty!!

Hope it doesn't come to that though lol.

[CaliRavenFan]

I would love to wake up tomorrow and read that Ravens fire Trestman and promote Bobby Engram to OC. I dont trust Juan or Marty with running the Offense and there is no way we will have a winning record with Trestman. Sadly I know I will wake up to the same excuses and we will do better this week stuff that we are told every week. Fact is that in the last 2 years of Trestman running the Offense we have been absolutely horrible. What kind of disrespect are we showing to Smitty for him to fight back and hold off his retirement to be apart of this embarrassing excuse of an Offense..

[ravenstime]

I would love to wake up tomorrow and read that Ravens fire Trestman and promote Bobby Engram to OC. I dont trust Juan or Marty with running the Offense and there is no way we will have a winning record with Trestman. Sadly I know I will wake up to the same excuses and we will do better this week stuff that we are told every week. Fact is that in the last 2 years of Trestman running the Offense we have been absolutely horrible. What kind of disrespect are we showing to Smitty for him to fight back and hold off his retirement to be apart of this embarrassing excuse of an Offense..

You might be on to something here. The fact is Flacco was exactly at 7.0 yards per completion. I checked Phillip Rivers' stats out over at ESPN, and he had a gaudy 17.1 yards per completion and 4 Touchdowns. Flacco had 30 completions, while Rivers and the supposedly awful 1-4 Chargers was 21 for 30 on passes. I think we lead the league with the most passes in the '0 to MINUS -4 Yard Range'. Over a 7 minute span, I think we had 8 completions that averaged 0 yards, crazzzzzzy. I say we throw 20 passes of at least 10 - 20 yards in the 1st half next week and see if we, at least have the 'Potential' to gain yards and actually MOVE the ball down the field.

[ravenstime]

I'll say it 'cause I didn't read it here, but I think the Ravens had 10 passes in the '0 to minus 4 yard' range. I kept watching those check-downs and they were giving us those plays, hoping we were stupid enough to try to move the ball that way. I'm not calling us stupid, just that you might as well run the ball an extra 10 times than throw 10 plays that net 0 yards for an average.........gosh!

[hen826957]

  5 hours ago, MichaelJ34 said:

And the Flacco comments that it's embarrassing and not fun and frustrating are kind of a statement to say he isn't a fan of Trestman or this offensive scheme?

The last time we fired an OC we won the Super Bowl.

That's true LOL. Plus when we always lost to the Skins we usually win the Super Bowl.

[Ravenshine]

"At the end, there is no easy answer to the Ravens’ offensive troubles."

Maybe there's no easy answer, but the main answer is the Oline...it is porous, not holding, not providing protection nor allowing much time for passes to set up. And it hurt mostly in the first half of game, soon after the excellent first drive (which didn't last beyond that), shifted momentum to Skins, and didn't improve all second half until last drive of the game.

Losing SSS didn't help. Perriman is a rookie and making rookie mistakes. Wallace had some good plays, as did Pitta, Crockett. West lit up big time, in retro should have utilized more running game since the passing game is in trouble...again mainly I see it as the Oline not letting the plays get enough time to delevop on many of those snaps, pocket just collapsing.

CJ almost got us the game...gotta feel for him on that mistake, he did good on interception otherwise and he was trying for the score.

One thing I saw, Joe Flacco was not the problem, he was one of the few things working as were the few others trying to make plays... but its just an overall weak execution...Oline, oline, oline. I know they are trying, I can tell they are trying, but they just aren't getting it done.

[The Greek]

last 2 times we lost to the skins we won a sb