Merged: QBs you'd rather have than Flacco

[GhostofGrbac]

2 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

What does right now mean in the QB context? Swap them weekly based on their current stats? 

Their production at this point in the season. 

[allblackraven]

Just now, GhostofGrbac said:

Their production at this point in the season. 

So what? You can't change QBs based on their short term production. 

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, GhostofGrbac said:

Why respond if you don't care? Because I pointed out that your boy Flacco is playing on the level of Case freaking Keenum?

For the same reason you decided to troll with useless stats...

Again, I actually watch NFL games. I already knew that Joe was playing at a Case Keenum level. I didn't need to go to the ESPN stats section and look up some meaningless stats to support that.

Do you have any actual solutions or reasons for this or did you just feel like stating something obvious and hoping people would be in awe by it?

[GhostofGrbac]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

For the same reason you decided to troll with useless stats...

Again, I actually watch NFL games. I already knew that Joe was playing at a Case Keenum level. I didn't need to go to the ESPN stats section and look up some meaningless stats to support that.

Do you have any actual solutions or reasons for this or did you just feel like stating something obvious and hoping people would be in awe by it?

Pretty sure everyone here watches NFL games pal.

I'm trying to make the apologists aware of just how awful Joe has been this season. There's still excuse after excuse in these threads. 

Again if you don't like it don't respond. It's that simple. 

[omar586]

r we 1 of the teams that rumored to go after Joe THomas in a trade?

[omar586]

is Hester been cut yet?

[rmcjacket23]

12 minutes ago, omar586 said:

r we 1 of the teams that rumored to go after Joe THomas in a trade?

I think we'd be one of the least likely teams in the league to do that...

[OUravensfan]

In terms of hostility this forum is a lot better than others, like RSR where profanity is not filtered out and people can directly attack each other without retribution. 

The Flacco haters get 2 weeks to gloat, let's hope Pittsburgh can turn the tide for the fans that want to see him do well.

BTw, 6 rushing yards lol. It's not rocket science.

I know on paper our schedule is supposed to be harder but I'm not so sure our opponent really matters with this level of disorganization on offense, we're playing ourselves on offense right now.

Edited October 24, 2016 by OUravensfan

[Ravenseconbeast]

5 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

In terms of hostility this forum is a lot better than others, like RSR where profanity is not filtered out and people can directly attack each other without retribution. 

The Flacco haters get 2 weeks to gloat, let's hope Pittsburgh can turn the tide for the fans that want to see him do well.

BTw, 6 rushing yards lol. It's not rocket science 

 

 

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Gloat about what?  That is your perception as with rest of the flaccopologist.   Read my post one page before.   

Fyi, you care strictly about flacco and not the ravens organization.  It is pretty apparant that is how this forum is moderated.  You are either a Flacco fan or 'not a ravens fan at all'  If you have a voice of reason to not be one of the flacco worshipper you are either 1.kicked out 2. warned.   Moderators here can give a hoot about fans that care about the organization.  Long as you support Flacco.  

Majority of the abusive, implicit flacco 'fans' became moderators here recently (will not name them).   I know how this official forum is run.   So enjoy how your friend rmcjacket is calling people 'morons' and run free w/o any repurcussions unless reported heavily otherwise.

Edited October 24, 2016 by Ravenseconbeast

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Gloat about what?  That is your perception as with rest of the flaccopologist.   Read my post one page before.   

Fyi, you care strictly about flacco and not the ravens organization.  It is pretty apparant that is how this forum is moderated.  You are either a Flacco fan or 'not a ravens fan at all'  If you have a voice of reason to not be one of the flacco worshipper you are either 1.kicked out 2. warned.   Moderators here can give a hoot about fans that care about the organization.  Long as you support Flacco.  

Majority of the abusive, implicit flacco 'fans' became moderators here recently (will not name them).   I know how this official forum is run.   So enjoy how your friend rmcjacket is calling people 'morons' and run free w/o any repurcussions unless reported heavily otherwise.

Somewhere I see like a half dozen moderators getting a good chuckle out of the fact that another poster thinks I post freely without repercussions on here. 

If only some posters saw my warning/suspension/censorship activity that goes on over time...

[Tru11]

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Somewhere I see like a half dozen moderators getting a good chuckle out of the fact that another poster thinks I post freely without repercussions on here. 

If only some posters saw my warning/suspension/censorship activity that goes on over time...

be honest.

you must also have noticed , they do give you some more creative freedom when you  support flacco 

[rmcjacket23]

6 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

be honest.

you must also have noticed , they do give you some more creative freedom when you  support flacco 

I'm usually not openly supporting him that often, so I really hadn't noticed.

Edited October 24, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[redrum52]

6 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I'm usually not openly supporting him that often, so I really hadn't noticed.

I'll give you this.  You usually keep opinion out of it and argue facts.

[Moderator 3]

40 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Gloat about what?  That is your perception as with rest of the flaccopologist.   Read my post one page before.   

Fyi, you care strictly about flacco and not the ravens organization.  It is pretty apparant that is how this forum is moderated.  You are either a Flacco fan or 'not a ravens fan at all'  If you have a voice of reason to not be one of the flacco worshipper you are either 1.kicked out 2. warned.   Moderators here can give a hoot about fans that care about the organization.  Long as you support Flacco.  

Majority of the abusive, implicit flacco 'fans' became moderators here recently (will not name them).   I know how this official forum is run.   So enjoy how your friend rmcjacket is calling people 'morons' and run free w/o any repurcussions unless reported heavily otherwise.

For the record since you're obviously on a rampage of mistruth:

Recheck the posts, plenty of them are by moderators criticizing Flacco's play. (Guess what, there are even a good number criticizing other members of the organization.  We are neither blind nor stupid.)  Also, there are no "recent" moderators, so that claim of yours is blatantly false.

No one has ever been "kicked out" or warned for being a voice of reason. Perhaps your definition of "voice of reason" could use a tweek.

[Ravenseconbeast]

12 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:

For the record since you're obviously on a rampage of mistruth:

Recheck the posts, plenty of them are by moderators criticizing Flacco's play. (Guess what, there are even a good number criticizing other members of the organization.  We are neither blind nor stupid.)  Also, there are no "recent" moderators, so that claim of yours is blatantly false.

No one has ever been "kicked out" or warned for being a voice of reason. Perhaps your definition of "voice of reason" could use a tweek.

 

 

thanks for the negs mod3.   what 'rampage' of mistruth are you talking about?   other than the previous post, i am pretty sure i was talking about flacco.  

you can also use a 'tweek on being blatantly honest' about where your bias lies.

Edited October 24, 2016 by Ravenseconbeast

[Virginia 55]

On 10/22/2016 at 3:19 PM, flynismo said:

What's fair? That I won't harp on a QB that has been hit and pressured more than any other in the league, and then if that's not bad enough, his WRs dropped the second most passes of any team? Even his OC got fired because he can't do his job! Don't let these people brainwash you into thinking that "it's only fair to blame Flacco since we're blaming everyone else." Put the blame where it belongs.

Not true!!!!

[Moderator 3]

Just now, Ravenseconbeast said:

thanks for the negs mod3.   what 'rampage' of mistruth are you talking about?   other than the previous post, i am pretty sure i was talking about flacco.  

you can also use a 'tweek on being blatantly honest' about where your bias.  

That one, and I didn't neg you.  I don't bother negging people since I think it's silly.  I do, however, give a lot of pluses where they're deserved.

My bias is towards civil conversation.  No one has ever been warned for civilly criticizing any member of this organization as long as it wasn't hijacking or repetitive trolling the same thing over and over and over.  

[BmoreBird22]

4 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:

That one, and I didn't neg you.  I don't bother negging people since I think it's silly.  I do, however, give a lot of pluses where they're deserved.

My bias is towards civil conversation.  No one has ever been warned for civilly criticizing any member of this organization as long as it wasn't hijacking or repetitive trolling the same thing over and over and over.  

But you have to realize that the ones who commit these types of behaviors won't often see that they did anything wrong and will blame others because they can do no wrong.

[Tru11]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I'm usually not openly supporting him that often, so I really hadn't noticed.

fair enough lol

[OUravensfan]

1 hour ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Gloat about what?  That is your perception as with rest of the flaccopologist.   Read my post one page before.   

Fyi, you care strictly about flacco and not the ravens organization.  It is pretty apparant that is how this forum is moderated.  You are either a Flacco fan or 'not a ravens fan at all'  If you have a voice of reason to not be one of the flacco worshipper you are either 1.kicked out 2. warned.   Moderators here can give a hoot about fans that care about the organization.  Long as you support Flacco.  

Majority of the abusive, implicit flacco 'fans' became moderators here recently (will not name them).   I know how this official forum is run.   So enjoy how your friend rmcjacket is calling people 'morons' and run free w/o any repurcussions unless reported heavily otherwise.

There's a lot of people whose post volume go up when the team is struggling.

I've criticized Flacco this year as well, yesterday was his worst game. I also question what I did with my life 96-2007 watching a team I didn't care about.

Edited October 24, 2016 by OUravensfan

[ellicottraven]

In an ideal world, I would like to go back in time and draft Brady, Rodgers or Roethlisberger or Rivers, etc. But, we don't have that luxury do we? We were able to draft a decent QB in Flacco. Decent enough at a time when he was able to win us a SB. There are a lot of QBs that have come in to the league and left without one. So, it isn't all bad that Flacco won us a SB is it? I don't care if it was a great run in a particular year that caused it because he did help us win that SB. I am a realist and don't expect Flacco to help us win another, not the way he's playing. But sooner rather than later we'll have a great team that'll win us another championship. Till then, we just need to wait and hope.

[GrimCoconut]

Just making it clear, but everyone realizes Flacco won't be traded or cut even if Ozzie and Harbaugh are both fired, right? Cutting or trading him accelerates his guaranteed money and essentially detonates a nuclear bomb from Russia on our salary cap, crippling us. It would be the most sure-fire way to end up with the #1 overall pick because you'd have to cut many other players just to get under the cap and even then I'm not sure how we'd do it. 

[usmccharles]

Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco both have one superbowl, just goes to show how hard it is to win one.   Of course I want more as im sure every fan does.

[Tank 92]

30 minutes ago, designermaryland said:

but, how many times can you say "we need to fix this" or ""we need to get better"? going on 2 years now easily. at some point, if you are not making good on that rebuttal it is time to cut bait. perhaps they just are not capable of fixing it under the harbaugh and flacco regime. we have changed offensive coordinators 5 times and the results do not change. obviously #5 is the common denominator.

Did you happen to see this post below?  Seems he's been OK in the previous 8 years despite having 5 different OCs and who knows how many receivers. The "common denominator" as you mention? 

No question he's in a bad place right now, coming off a knee, getting smashed for weeks and playing scared. Joe gets his head right and we fix some things chances are he will be fine.  Regardless, no one is "cutting bait", it ain't happening.

On 10/22/2016 at 2:41 AM, flynismo said:

 

NFL records

• First rookie quarterback to win two playoff games
• Most wins by a quarterback in first six seasons: 62 (regular season only)
• Most wins by a quarterback in first seven seasons: 72 (regular season only)
• Second-most combined regular and postseason wins in first three years as a quarterback: 36 (tied with Dan Marino)
• Only quarterback to start and win a playoff game in each of his first five seasons^[54]
• Most touchdowns in a postseason: 11 (tied with Joe Montana and Kurt Warner)^[39]
• Most touchdowns without an interception in a postseason: 11 (tied with Joe Montana)^[40]
• First quarterback to have a passer rating over 100 in all four games of a single postseason^[4]
• Most consecutive playoff games with at least two passing touchdowns: 8
• Most consecutive playoff games with at least three passing touchdowns: 3 (tied with Bernie Kosar, Kurt Warner, and Aaron Rodgers)
• Most consecutive road playoff games with at least one passing touchdown: 7 (tied with Donovan McNabb and Brett Favre)
• Most consecutive road playoff games with at least two passing touchdowns: 5
• Fastest quarterback to record five touchdowns in a game: 16:03
• Most road playoff wins for a quarterback: 7 (tied with Eli Manning)

Ravens franchise records

• Most career passing yards – 25,531
• Most career pass completions – 2,213
• Most career passing touchdowns – 148
• Most regular-season wins – 72
• Most postseason wins – 10
• Most consecutive pass completions: 21 vs. Jacksonville Jaguars on September 25, 2016 ^[58]
• Most passing yards in a playoff game (331 in 2013 vs Denver Broncos)^[57]
• Most 300+ passing-yard games in career by a starting QB – 16^[57]
• Highest completion percentage in a single season – 63.1% (2009) (in 16 starts)^[57]
• Highest career quarterback rating – 84.8^[57]
• Highest single-season quarterback rating — 93.6 (2010)^[57]
• Most times sacked in a career for a starting QB – 241^[57]
• Fewest interceptions in a regular season by starting QB — 10 (2012) (16 starts)^[57]
• Most career fourth-quarter comeback wins – 14^[57]
• Most career game-winning drives – 21^[57]
• Most game-winning drives in a single season – 4 (2010) (tied with Elvis Grbac)^[57]

 

 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2016 by Tank 92

[MTRavensFan]

Nobody's mentioned the impact of the injury to Joe's throwing shoulder. As of Friday he was still questionable to play, and then needed more "treatment" during warm-ups to start. It's pretty obvious to me by the 4th quarter the cortisone shots had worn off and he was playing through tremendous pain. 

Inaccuracy was not Joe's fault. Harbaugh should have had the guts to bench him for his own good. Obviously they have no confidence in Mallet.

[RedFire]

When trailing by 14points or more in the 4th quarter:

 

Brees, Brady, Aaron Rodgers & Big Ben have never won a game in their career 0-22 or more loses for each!!!!...think about it. Could the elites w/o taking into account other factors do much better than Flacco?!?! I THINK NOT!

 

The entitlement is getting very obvious from our fan base! team game people!

Edited October 25, 2016 by RedFire

[RedFire]

3 minutes ago, RedFire said:

When trailing by 14points or more in the 4th quarter:

 

Brees, Brady, Aaron Rodgers & Big Ben have never won a game in their career 0-22 or more loses for each!!!!...think about it. Could the elites w/o taking into account other factors do much better than Flacco?!?! I THINK NOT!

 

The entitlement is getting very obvious from our fan base! team game people!

 

 

do we watch football or just skim through the games?!?! ....we should appreciate the skill set Flacco has and we should maximize his talent. Down large in the 4th...i'll stick with Flacco! 

[GhostofGrbac]

24 minutes ago, MTRavensFan said:

Nobody's mentioned the impact of the injury to Joe's throwing shoulder. As of Friday he was still questionable to play, and then needed more "treatment" during warm-ups to start. It's pretty obvious to me by the 4th quarter the cortisone shots had worn off and he was playing through tremendous pain. 

Inaccuracy was not Joe's fault. Harbaugh should have had the guts to bench him for his own good. Obviously they have no confidence in Mallet.

Inaccuracy wasn't Joe's fault? I'm sorry but his shoulder discomfort has nothing to do with him setting his feet. You throw off your back foot and it's going to affect accuracy. 

There's always an excuse. 

[allblackraven]

I would tear ACL to everybody who complains about Flacco, let them go through surgery and rehab, sit out OTAs and barely go through camp, then put them under Zuttah with Sheldon Richardson and L. Williams peaking over Zuttah's shoulders and try to hand the ball off to RB. Not even drop back and pass.

Then return here to comment.

[Ravenseconbeast]

1 hour ago, MTRavensFan said:

Nobody's mentioned the impact of the injury to Joe's throwing shoulder. As of Friday he was still questionable to play, and then needed more "treatment" during warm-ups to start. It's pretty obvious to me by the 4th quarter the cortisone shots had worn off and he was playing through tremendous pain. 

Inaccuracy was not Joe's fault. Harbaugh should have had the guts to bench him for his own good. Obviously they have no confidence in Mallet.

 

Inaccuracy is Joe's fault.  Oh boo hoo poor Joe.   But cut Suggs w/ bicep tear? Who cares and get rid of rest of the players and scrap the OC, the oline w/o even a wink is fine.   

The whole moderator community bias here is laughable.  

You guys created this community that only sponsors Joe and 'cut/blame' rest of the organization on this forum.  Hope you really enjoy that.