[News] Game Recap: Redskins 16, Ravens 10

[stixfix69]

Survived Hurricane Matthew, hoping this would make a bad week ok, now the Hurricane didn't seem so bad.....

[Ibleedperple]

Mosley's play didn't lose the game. No pass protection, No Offensive Coordinator. This team Is terrible with the talent it has in receivers.

Special teams are terrible. have been all season on kick offs and punts. Harb's has been outcoached every game this year in the second have and most of the first half. COME ON STEVE WAKE UP>

[ravens4life86]

Oline was was better then last week but when your OC continuously throws it 50x a game no Oline can hold up unless you have 5 John Ogdens.

FireTrestman- just shows this guy has no clue or feel for the game. 19 total rushes to 46. Not a good run pass ratio. Same crap we have seen for 1 and a half yrs from FireTrestman& same thing that got him fired from Bears

FireTrestman

[The Mom Gene]

Just now, metalraven said:

That's why you have backups. West being hurt is no excuse to abandon the ONLY thing that actually worked for this sorry team.

I get that Metal...  The poster asked what happened to West.

[law215]

Some Suggestions
1. Fire Trestman. Maybe that's not possible cause no other coach is capable of running the offense. If I'm OZ he is definitely gone next year.

2. Next time your running game is averaging 8.6 yards and Trestman calls a pass play. yell at him on the side line. As fans we need to see that the entire team is not stupid. Tell Joe to run the ball.

3. The next time the offense sputters for almost an entire half, sit Joe down. If he is not getting time to throw why leave him out there to get injured. See if Mallet can get a spark. Hold everyone accountable. Send a message.

[Rich McG]

Our 1st 5 games to start this season have been against teams that the St. Pauls Girls School football team would beat. We have been completely out-coached and out played by far inferior teams every game. Sorry to say....the time has come for a house cleaning from Oz through John to the entire staff. It's over as we are incompetent at everything with the one exception....field goals and punting. Go Ravens!

[Drinkmore Beer]

Two comments: 1) "He ran the ball four times after gaining 60 yards in the first quarter." 2) KIRK COUSINS IS ELITE!

[metalraven]

  15 minutes ago, metalraven said:

Time to admit several hings:

1) Flacco is just decent. Slightly above mediocre. (Not hating. He's the best we've had. But that doesn't say much) His inconsistent play, lack of fundamentals, his forcing passes into double coverage, are all the indicators of an average QB. Sometimes he does amazing things, but obviously not enough. You can blame the o line all you want, but even when Joe had time, he over threw and under threw even short passes. Also, when he has endless yards in front him, he throws a 2 yard pass instead of running.

2)Harbs is overrated. A terrible decision maker in clutch situations. I think his record since Ray's retirement is 26-27. (May want to double-check that) He's just not a great HC.

3) Our D is legit. But pass rush is garbage.

4) Trestman is obviously an idiot. He fails to see a good thing when it's right in his freaking face. Finally get our ground game going, but predictably he runs tons of pass plays, killing all momentum.

5) Our special teams, aside from Tucker, sucks.

6) Our team, as a whole, is just mediocre. If not for the D, we'd be 0-5. None of our 3 wins can be attributed to the offense; who, despite great field position, and D giving them chance after chance, could not even muster up 17 points against one the worst defenses in the league.

7) We lost back to back home games against average teams with terrible defenses.

Enjoy another lame season, Ravens fans. If they don't turn it around, we may see a house cleaning at the end of the season.

xlnt post sir..... but harbs has to go soon........stale stuff here here in the organization.....

That's what I meant. Another losing season, Harbs and everybody else will be gone.

[metalraven]

  7 minutes ago, metalraven said:

That's why you have backups. West being hurt is no excuse to abandon the ONLY thing that actually worked for this sorry team.

I get that Metal...  The poster asked what happened to West.

Got it. I misunderstood your reply.

[The Mom Gene]

Just now, metalraven said:

Got it. I misunderstood your reply.

It's OK...  just frustrated is all.

[Texas Ravens Fan]

The only difference between the team that lost two 14-Point leads to the Patriots in the Playoffs and last year's 5-11 team is Trestman. Nothing will change this year either. If we would just stick to the run we might be 5-0. The O-line has been hurt the last two weeks. Not Joe's fault he is under pressure with no time for receivers to get open. We need to game plan for the O-line we have and run the ball.

[designermaryland]

Really Ryan Mink, your pointing the finger at CJ Mosley. I guarantee you the fans are not upset with Mosley. They are upset with this clueless offense. Everybody in the world knows we are supposed to be running it, except for these professional coaches. They are professionals at losing, better yet tossing away games.

If Mosley had stepped out of bounds, the offense would have found a way to squander the score anyway. I dont blame him for trying, although it kind of sucked. Flacco would go 3 and out, kick a 10 yard FG maybe if they are lucky.

[metalraven]

  31 minutes ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

Really Ryan Mink, your pointing the finger at CJ Mosley. I guarantee you the fans are not upset with Mosley. They are upset with this clueless offense. Everybody in the world knows we are supposed to be running it, except for these professional coaches. They are professionals at losing, better yet tossing away games.

If Mosley had stepped out of bounds, the offense would have found a way to squander the score anyway. I dont blame him for trying, although it kind of sucked. Flacco would go 3 and out, kick a 10 yard FG maybe if they are lucky.

Exactly

[Bline1027]

I just don't understand why JH does not understand the formula for this team. Run the ball, Good D, and take the points when you have it. We are not good enough to give away points. Its a reason why Chicago fired Trestman. Oz can not build a team anymore. The ravens are a shell of themselves. What happened to fundamental football?

[Molson Man]

This offense is a joke, 11 touches for West 95 yards. I mean hello you know what to do so hand it off and win some games already. BTW 3-0 with Stanley 0-2 without him. Until he comes back we are a running team only. Breshad my man, footwork is key in the NFL. Trestman has to go, he said he was committed to the run. There is a difference between handing the ball off once in a while and being committed to the run. Flacco has never had this many weapons this is shameful that we go three and out so much.

[Unknown25]

It hurts my heart for what im about to say, 

But the team has being going down hill ever since are last superbowl run. Bad draft picks, bad play calling, never what to spend money on players that can help make ud better. The head coach needs to be fired and everyone he put on his coaching staff. Ozzie needs to step down he has done more to hurt this team then any other team has done to us.

[metalraven]

The only difference between the team that lost two 14-Point leads to the Patriots in the Playoffs and last year's 5-11 team is Trestman. Nothing will change this year either. If we would just stick to the run we might be 5-0. The O-line has been hurt the last two weeks. Not Joe's fault he is under pressure with no time for receivers to get open. We need to game plan for the O-line we have and run the ball.

Correct. Good coaches know what they have and what their players are capable of; and prepare accordingly. Good coaches put the players in the best situation, to give them the best at winning. This coaching staff, however, does not such thing.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Trestman needs to go, and Harbaugh needs Ozzies permission to do stupid things besides taking points from now on

[Barney S]

We are terrible in the red zone. Remember...Steve had to fire Cam because John wouldn't do it. Same deal. We should make the move now. It's not too late. Steve, you are the man in charge. Save our season. 

[TheConquerorWorm]

Oline was was better then last week but when your OC continuously throws it 50x a game no Oline can hold up unless you have 5 John Ogdens.

FireTrestman- just shows this guy has no clue or feel for the game. 19 total rushes to 46. Not a good run pass ratio. Same crap we have seen for 1 and a half yrs from FireTrestman& same thing that got him fired from Bears

FireTrestman

The Skins threw the ball 41 times and ran only 17. The Raiders threw the ball 35 times and ran the ball 16 times - doesn't that disprove your theory?

The difference: Our pass rush didn't get to Cousins (or Carr). The Skin's defense sack, hit or hurried Flacco on 60% of the pass plays - 60%! Then the WR's dropped another 15% of the passes.

Wallace, Perriman & Aiken are dropping too many balls and are not getting open, period. Perriman, I'll give a pass cause he's a rookie in his first few games. Now we know why Wallace has been let go from 3 teams already.

Same people crying when we run the ball on 2nd & 15 and 3rd & 10 are the same people crying that we don't run the ball enough...smh. Want to run the ball more? Quit having stupid penalties on 1st down (Looking at you Wallace, Zuttah, etc).

[Bohica5]

I just don't understand why JH does not understand the formula for this team. Run the ball, Good D, and take the points when you have it. We are not good enough to give away points. Its a reason why Chicago fired Trestman. Oz can not build a team anymore. The ravens are a shell of themselves. What happened to fundamental football?

Coach is too comfortable......too predictable and this game really not very smart....it's his responsibility to manage the game!

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

8 minutes ago, metalraven said:

Correct. Good coaches know what they have and what their players are capable of; and prepare accordingly. Good coaches put the players in the best situation, to give them the best at winning. This coaching staff, however, does not such thing.

That would be the definition of "CLUELESS"

[designermaryland]

This offense is completely pathetic. No excuses to be this bad and tolerate it week in and week out. Flacco is the main problem in my opinion. I am beginning to pray they run the ball so he does not have the opportunity to throw an errant pass or dump it off for 3 yards to Juice 15 times. If that is all you have in your offensive arsenal, and you cannot find time scrambling to allow your receivers to break free some of the time, you need to sit no matter how much money you are making. Mallet should have been brought in to see if that changed the pace or production, and to give him a freaking WAKE UP CALL.

No matter how stupid the play is called by the OC, Flacco can check out of it. The problem is, he is more stupid than the OC, cannot make any adjustments to read defenses to exploit them, or create time in the pocket extend the play at all. The knee problem has only made it worse than it was previously. I cannot recall one play in the past 5 games where he has shuffled his feet to move up in the pocket and avoided pressure.

This defense is solid to above average and could get better if we had some pass rush, which would not expose the mediocre corner play. They continue to sit Judon, who is the only guy who has any effective pass rush. So instead, we activated Dan Brown and Dixon, who played about 8 total snaps.

For me, Mallet should be ready to go this week if they have another unproductive drive in the first quarter. If they lose the next 2 games, Harbaugh should be fired and Leslie Frazier can take over for the interim. Sick of watching horrible football.

[Bohica5]

  21 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

Oline was was better then last week but when your OC continuously throws it 50x a game no Oline can hold up unless you have 5 John Ogdens.

FireTrestman- just shows this guy has no clue or feel for the game. 19 total rushes to 46. Not a good run pass ratio. Same crap we have seen for 1 and a half yrs from FireTrestman& same thing that got him fired from Bears

FireTrestman

The Skins threw the ball 41 times and ran only 17. The Raiders threw the ball 35 times and ran the ball 16 times - doesn't that disprove your theory?

The difference: Our pass rush didn't get to Cousins (or Carr). The Skin's defense sack, hit or hurried Flacco on 60% of the pass plays - 60%! Then the WR's dropped another 15% of the passes.

Wallace, Perriman & Aiken are dropping too many balls and are not getting open, period. Perriman, I'll give a pass cause he's a rookie in his first few games. Now we know why Wallace has been let go from 3 teams already.

Same people crying when we run the ball on 2nd & 15 and 3rd & 10 are the same people crying that we don't run the ball enough...smh. Want to run the ball more? Quit having stupid penalties on 1st down (Looking at you Wallace, Zuttah, etc).

3nout 3nout 3nout......Is not the D's fault......Too tired, they need the O to work like they did that 1st drive, every drive.....not once a game! and wallace gave it everything he had for that ball....thrown by joe hanging it out in the middle to get wallace killed........

[mc_red23]

One of Harbaugh's many pathetic comments after the game: "We have to play better." 

Seriously?!

[Jim from Ellicott City]

  35 minutes ago, metalraven said:

Time to admit several hings:

1) Flacco is just decent. Slightly above mediocre. (Not hating. He's the best we've had. But that doesn't say much) His inconsistent play, lack of fundamentals, his forcing passes into double coverage, are all the indicators of an average QB. Sometimes he does amazing things, but obviously not enough. You can blame the o line all you want, but even when Joe had time, he over threw and under threw even short passes. Also, when he has endless yards in front him, he throws a 2 yard pass instead of running.

2)Harbs is overrated. A terrible decision maker in clutch situations. I think his record since Ray's retirement is 26-27. (May want to double-check that) He's just not a great HC.

3) Our D is legit. But pass rush is garbage.

4) Trestman is obviously an idiot. He fails to see a good thing when it's right in his freaking face. Finally get our ground game going, but predictably he runs tons of pass plays, killing all momentum.

5) Our special teams, aside from Tucker, sucks.

6) Our team, as a whole, is just mediocre. If not for the D, we'd be 0-5. None of our 3 wins can be attributed to the offense; who, despite great field position, and D giving them chance after chance, could not even muster up 17 points against one the worst defenses in the league.

7) We lost back to back home games against average teams with terrible defenses.

Enjoy another lame season, Ravens fans. If they don't turn it around, we may see a house cleaning at the end of the season.

I don't have a problem with anything you said. Trestman has just fired himself. If not this season, then offseason. All of that while Steve and OZ is watching above.

I only disagree with the Flacco assessment. I think he may be above average but not elite. I say this because other than Kubiack he has had 3 terrible OC's. The ravens don't promote from within anymore so they don't really have a system. In the NFL consistency is everything. I say that should dump Harbaugh and Trestman. A head coach should be responsible for his personnel and his decision making. Based on what I've seen, the Ravens should make a run at Josh McDaniel.

[law215]

One of Harbaugh's many pathetic comments after the game: "We have to play better." 

Seriously?!

He blamed Gilmore for stumbling during the fake FG attempt. unacceptable and clueless. "We are going to be aggressive"

How about sticking to what actually works?

[Bohica5]

There will be some great coaches/OC-DC-available after this season in pro and college ball.....We need to Coach-Up!

[law215]

  34 minutes ago, law215 said:

  47 minutes ago, metalraven said:

Time to admit several hings:

1) Flacco is just decent. Slightly above mediocre. (Not hating. He's the best we've had. But that doesn't say much) His inconsistent play, lack of fundamentals, his forcing passes into double coverage, are all the indicators of an average QB. Sometimes he does amazing things, but obviously not enough. You can blame the o line all you want, but even when Joe had time, he over threw and under threw even short passes. Also, when he has endless yards in front him, he throws a 2 yard pass instead of running.

2)Harbs is overrated. A terrible decision maker in clutch situations. I think his record since Ray's retirement is 26-27. (May want to double-check that) He's just not a great HC.

3) Our D is legit. But pass rush is garbage.

4) Trestman is obviously an idiot. He fails to see a good thing when it's right in his freaking face. Finally get our ground game going, but predictably he runs tons of pass plays, killing all momentum.

5) Our special teams, aside from Tucker, sucks.

6) Our team, as a whole, is just mediocre. If not for the D, we'd be 0-5. None of our 3 wins can be attributed to the offense; who, despite great field position, and D giving them chance after chance, could not even muster up 17 points against one the worst defenses in the league.

7) We lost back to back home games against average teams with terrible defenses.

Enjoy another lame season, Ravens fans. If they don't turn it around, we may see a house cleaning at the end of the season.

I don't have a problem with anything you said. Trestman has just fired himself. If not this season, then offseason. All of that while Steve and OZ is watching above.

I only disagree with the Flacco assessment. I think he may be above average but not elite. I say this because other than Kubiack he has had 3 terrible OC's. The ravens don't promote from within anymore so they don't really have a system. In the NFL consistency is everything. I say that should dump Harbaugh and Trestman. A head coach should be responsible for his personnel and his decision making. Based on what I've seen, the Ravens should make a run at Josh McDaniel.

He has been in the league for 9 years. He had a $120 M contract. Time to stop blaming "Just" the OC.

He needs to be a playmaker and read the defense, step into throws, and be accurate with ball. 30/46 210 yards against a terrible defense

[BiggMack91]

now can you fire trestmen?