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The Good, Bad and Ugly vent thread week 5

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1 minute ago, AppStRavenfan said:

Cam Cameron just became available - /s

It looked like he was calling the Redskins' plays.  Went for 40 yards on 3rd and short like 5 times lol.

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Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

Matt Bowen tweeted out that the fourth down play was smart. Wallace just had to hold on.

I agree.

SSR would've made that play. The rest of the WRs don't play with the same energy and determination. 

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19 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

3. Despite averaging almost NINE yards per carry (!!!!), Trestman ran only five designed runs after five minutes left in the second quarter. He had 18 called runs with five on the first drive alone. How do you abandon the run when you're gaining over 6.0 YPC?

Because he's Marc Trestman, and that's always been his MO

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trestman hasn't had a full season with a healthy squad. we have been in position to win the last two games....players need to make plays. 

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Everyone has to be held accountable no good ol' boys B.S.  When you make mistakes own it and if you dont fix it then it's time for a change and thats from the bottom all the way to the top.

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No one on the offense seems to be on the same page either. Trestman and Joe don't even seem to be on the same continent most of the time. Joe looked resigned and frustrated at his post-game presser. He always accepts responsibility but at some point, even though the execution hasn't been great, the playcalling has to be at least a significant part of the problem. 

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5 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

Perrimen was our first round pick last year correct. Amazing to see guys out performing him ten fold, in our own conference/division, that were taken 3-4 rounds later than him.

I said when we drafted Perriman that sammi Coates will out perform Perriman and everyone hated me . Now look 

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1 minute ago, TuckerTime9 said:

Yeah Mosley played good, and then cost the Ravens a 10 point swing with a boneheaded selfish play. 

Wouldn't really say its selfish. He's trying to make a play. Fans always complain about lack of playmakers on defense, and he did everything you and I asked him to do.

He fumbled the ball and it bounced the wrong way. If it rolls out of bounds at the 1, he's the hero of the game.

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Fire Trestman . Fire Trestman . Fire Trestman . 

My Chicago Bears  friends were overjoyed when he was gone . 

We will never have a good red zone offense with him . Never 

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Just now, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

Harbaughs definition of STUPID PLAY CALL =AGGRESIVE play call

I don't actually disagree with the fake FG call by itself. Sometimes you have to try things like that. It was that call combined with playing give up the play before that makes it stupid. If you want to be aggressive, do it with your offense on the field. Not your kicker.

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Just now, 808Blackbirds said:

I said when we drafted Perriman that sammi Coates will out perform Perriman and every hated me . Now look 

Might want to hold that statement for several more years to judge.

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6 minutes ago, TuckerTime9 said:

Elam - Hurt

Mosley - Fumble majorly contributes to this loss + Hurt

Perriman - Drops huge TD, can't keep feet in bounds for game winner

Stanley - Hurt

 

What do these 4 have in common? Oh yeah just our last 4 first rounders. Trestman sucks yeah, but can we start pointing fingers at Ozzie soon too? No contribution from recent draft classes.

Are we blaming Ozzie for injuries?  

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Ozzie isn't the problem.  Our young guys have shown plenty of promise.  Just need to get on the field.  Then he nails guys like Orr and Pierce.  Bring in sneaky free agents like Wallace and Weddle.  The guys is giving the team ammo.  We just fail to utilize it.  
 

Harbs just needs to get his head out of the butt.  Trestman needs to go.  

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3 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Matt Bowen tweeted out that the fourth down play was smart. Wallace just had to hold on.

I agree.

Don't mind that call or play at all.  It was a damn good hit by Compton.  Can't do too much about a defender that plays it perfectly.

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It was an unnecessary close game.  Ravens will learn from this game.  Their season is over for 2016.  Harbs got cute with the fake field goal.  The fans deserve better coaching.  The players must learn to block. Why won't the Ravens place two backs in the backfield to block for Joe?  Who knows, who cares, the Ravens business is failing.  Glad I didn't renew my tickets.  In the end it is all about entertainment.  The fans got a thrill today, but the season is sadly over, because the Ravens OC and DC seek second Tier.  Best wishes to those diehard fans.  This was another "Cleveland" gut check game, and the Raven came up short.  Q no matter what you say, the bottom line is "Next Year".  Go Ravens.

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4 minutes ago, TuckerTime9 said:

Can we trade a first rounder for him? I actually enjoyed watching the Ravens offense that year. Now I'm just praying we can win with 10 points per week.

I don't know about a 1st but a 2nd? No problem. 

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20 minutes ago, loveravensfootball said:

And what's with all the routes short of the 1st down marker?!

On 3rd down, no less. Happened last week too.

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Just now, RedFire said:

trestman hasn't had a full season with a healthy squad. we have been in position to win the last two games....players need to make plays. 

I can totally agree with the players need to make plays but as far as the healthy squad part this is football no one has a total healthy squad for the most part so its next man up. 

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Just now, RedFire said:

trestman hasn't had a full season with a healthy squad. we have been in position to win the last two games....players need to make plays. 

We literally looked at our rushing offense, that was doing really well in the game, and decided "Hey, lets just pass on every play."

Then in the second half on one of the FIVE TOTAL RUSH PLAYS West has a great carry.  What does Trestman do next?  Pulls West out and puts in Buck Allen, who hadn't been getting good yardage all day.

Its truly mind-blowing.  Its not our personnel, its our playcalling.

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1 minute ago, ravensdfan said:

I don't actually disagree with the fake FG call by itself. Sometimes you have to try things like that. It was that call combined with playing give up the play before that makes it stupid. If you want to be aggressive, do it with your offense on the field. Not your kicker.

I agree with that you got to try new things, but you can't do that with your kicker in this kind of wind.

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The final 4th down play was smart, but flacco threw wallace into coverage.  Wallace was going to sit in the open zone but flacco threw him the route ball instead.

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5 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Only problem is we have a perimeter WR who wants nothing to do with running inside routes. Not that we could have done anything differently, but the personnel for that play doesn't work well. I'd say Steve Smith and probably nobody else on the team holds onto that ball. That's a Boldin/Steve Smith type of receiver catch.

It was a post route, so he's not really going over the middle, per se. 

Also, if you watched his time in Miami, his inside game really developed (he was quite deadly on slants) to the point that a post route shouldn't have been a huge miss.

Also, if you watch the play again, Wallace is fumbling that ball well before the hit. Compton didn't jar it loose. Just flat out dropped.

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1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Wouldn't really say its selfish. He's trying to make a play. Fans always complain about lack of playmakers on defense, and he did everything you and I asked him to do.

He fumbled the ball and it bounced the wrong way. If it rolls out of bounds at the 1, he's the hero of the game.

Yeah just bad luck.

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Flacco threw the ball 46 times and completed 30 of them... and the longest catch was 15 yards. 

Terrence West averaged 8.6 yards per carry... and we only ran it with him 11 times. 

 

What is wrong with Marc Trestman, I know I couldn't step in and do his job but he makes some of the most boneheaded play calls you'll ever see.

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7 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

Perrimen was our first round pick last year correct. Amazing to see guys out performing him ten fold, in our own conference/division, that were taken 3-4 rounds later than him.

Shame he could've had a really good day today. If he had just held on too that pass and kept his feet in bounds. I still believe in him. 

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8 minutes ago, Bandwagon said:

Hey buddy me too. I can't handle such embaressment and stupidity of this garbage team

It's good to see that fans are finally starting to stand up and say enough of this BS-lets get these coaching bums out of here because that's where the problems start!

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2 minutes ago, Raving_Heathen said:

On 3rd down, no less. Happened last week too.

Last week only? I seem to recall that being Trestman's mark all of last season as well.

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