The Good, Bad and Ugly vent thread week 5

[Sir Spooky]

2 minutes ago, PuRock said:

Agreed.  Steelers scheme well and seem to get Coates open down the field.  Plus it doesn't hurt when you have a guy like Antonio Brown and Bell threatening defenses every down.  

Todd Haley is a good OC and has a good relationship with Rothlisberger (Idk Flacco's relationship with Trestman). Even without Bell, their offense generally performs. They have some stinkers (see Eagles game) but it its far and few between. Unlike us, in which we're always laying stinkers. 

[rmw10]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Injury updates from Zrebiec on Twitter...

Mosley to have MRI on Hamstring, Steve Smith has ankle injury. Will come down to pain tolerance.

In this case, I suspect we'll see Steve Smith back out on the field in a week.

[Bandwagon]

Just now, loveravensfootball said:

I know Juice is a good player but why are we scheming the ball into his hands? I feel like there has to be better playmakers in the TE and WR groups. If not, then we're really in trouble

why is he lining up as a wide out?

Edited October 9, 2016 by Bandwagon

[AppStRavenfan]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Injury updates from Zrebiec on Twitter...

Mosley to have MRI on Hamstring, Steve Smith has ankle injury. Will come down to pain tolerance.

So in other words Smith will be ready to go by next week

[letitgosometimes]

Again! Got to ask what are the coaches thinking?

Edited October 9, 2016 by letitgosometimes
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[loveravensfootball]

Just now, Sir Spooky said:

Todd Haley is a good OC and has a good relationship with Rothlisberger (Idk Flacco's relationship with Trestman). Even without Bell, their offense generally performs. They have some stinkers (see Eagles game) but it its far and few between. Unlike us, in which we're always laying stinkers. 

 

 

He and Ben didn't always have a good one. It took a couple seasons but they still produced more than Joe and Trestman while they were working out the kinks. 

Edited October 9, 2016 by loveravensfootball

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. Rarely.

2. But you aren't the one hitting the neg button.

Rarely you're not right? Just a few minutes ago, you were wrong about the Mike Wallace drop.

No, I don't hit the vote buttons.

[Sami84]

Also, I'm done with our ancient fullback use. Whats the point of a fullback if you arent running the ball? what ? 2 yard checkdowns or TFL????

 

Guys this team is going nowhere. It's reliant on every single player being healthy and that aint gonna happen for ANYONE throughout the season.

I just dont see enough talent or smart coaching. We also have a regressing QB who was never great to begin with. I think the issue here is that people and the FO actually think they are a top tier team. The truth is this..we are NOT making the playoffs this year and i think we wil def have a top 10 pick again.

We also have the WORST cap situation in the league.

 

eventually we will be the worst team in the league. We try to fix our issues by getting veterens who are in their 30's rather than develop real superstar talent.

[hen826957]

3 minutes ago, Edug27 said:

Give the Steelers Perriman and he'll look like a stud.

Give us Coates and he'll be nonexistent as he blocks for check downs to Juice.

The Steelers would gladly would take Perriman LOL.

[OUravensfan]

These last two losses are just awful. It's the fact that these are bad teams at home, you can't drop these types of games. Steelers will win the division, we are battling for a wild card, that has become clear. So every one of these close, awful losses will come back to haunt us. 

[Sami84]

Just now, OUravensfan said:

These last two losses are just awful. It's the fact that these are bad teams at home, you can't drop these types of games. Steelers will win the division, we are battling for a wild card, that has become clear. So every one of these close, awful losses will come back to haunt us. 

 

huh..wildcard??

 

please dude..see the schedule? we would be lucky to get anything more than 2 wins

[kennethyamini1989]

there's so much wrong with Baltimore. From top to bottom. Special teams allowed a TD. Offense was pathetic, which caused the D to simply be worn down. Overpaid Flacco Flacco and airhead Haurbaugh. 2 times in a row...same mistake in not trusting his kicker which he just resigned....Ravens are headed for 7-9 or 8-8 season..missing the playoffs..Flacco has reached his "peak"...time to start looking at other options when it comes time to renegotiate his contract..dude isnt worth an elite salary. 

[Cville-Raven]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

Perriman looks like he's always going to be an enigma.  He's going to make some boneheaded drops but also make some catches that seem impossible.  Right now, it looks like he's going to frustrate the hell out of you sometimes, but make you think you have a superstar on other occasions.  I think we'll really see that in him if/when the offense opens up a bit.

Yeah, he's still a rookie with little practice. Offense is just too all over the place to create any rhythm. For every bad drop he'll make a ridiculous catch. If he got his second foot down that would have been two nice catches against Norman. 

[RedFire]

14 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

It's our fanbase's style

 

no it's not....people still wanted to give kyle boller a chance for a long time, lol. 

 

I was disappointed when he used to trip over his own feet dropping back from center many games! Kyle Bollers best game was 2007 in a loss to the patriots.  

[letitgosometimes]

I-formation worked well, Coaches are in question with game calls.

[Free Agent]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Perriman looks like he's always going to be an enigma.  He's going to make some boneheaded drops but also make some catches that seem impossible.  Right now, it looks like he's going to frustrate the hell out of you sometimes, but make you think you have a superstar on other occasions.  I think we'll really see that in him if/when the offense opens up a bit.

 

I think it's a bit early to say that. Remembering that this is essentially his rookie season, I think that as his playtime continues to increase, the amount of positive plays he makes increases as well. I was certainly frustrated with him on that drop on the deep ball, and yes, he definitely should've gotten that second foot down on the overturned TD play, but I expect him to see more of the flashy plays we've seen out of him, and fewer of the stupid drops and other frustrating plays. He's basically a rookie, and I think that's what we're seeing out of him now until the game begins to slow down for him.

[PuRock]

1 minute ago, OUravensfan said:

These last two losses are just awful. It's the fact that these are bad teams at home, you can't drop these types of games. Steelers will win the division, we are battling for a wild card, that has become clear. So every one of these close, awful losses will come back to haunt us. 

It's a long season.  Big Ben takes a big hit and goes down, that's a different team.  You have to play the games for a reason.  Ravens can be a very streaky team and one you can never count out.  

[rmw10]

Just now, Cville-Raven said:

Yeah, he's still a rookie with little practice. Offense is just too all over the place to create any rhythm. For every bad drop he'll make a ridiculous catch. If he got his second foot down that would have been two nice catches against Norman. 

Yeah.  The play where Norman got hurt was an incredible catch.  He'll eventually have some down field plays like that (and the one from week 1) when the offense opens up, but there's a lot going on there right now.

[rmw10]

Just now, Free Agent said:

 

I think it's a bit early to say that. Remembering that this is essentially his rookie season, I think that as his playtime continues to increase, the amount of positive plays he makes increases as well. I was certainly frustrated with him on that drop on the deep ball, and yes, he definitely should've gotten that second foot down on the overturned TD play, but I expect him to see more of the flashy plays we've seen out of him, and fewer of the stupid drops and other frustrating plays. He's basically a rookie, and I think that's what we're seeing out of him now until the game begins to slow down for him.

To clarify, I'm not saying it's going to be a 50/50 split of bad plays and great plays.  I think the good will eventually outweigh the bad, but we know how the bad ones always stick out.

[OUravensfan]

2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

huh..wildcard??

 

please dude..see the schedule? we would be lucky to get anything more than 2 wins

Jim Mora was in my head when I wrote it. That's why the losses are classified as awful. But then again, no sense getting too upset, if they're bad they're bad, and you just accept the season as a learning process for the future building period. 

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, kennethyamini1989 said:

there's so much wrong with Baltimore. From top to bottom. Special teams allowed a TD. Offense was pathetic, which caused the D to simply be worn down. Overpaid Flacco Flacco and airhead Haurbaugh. 2 times in a row...same mistake in not trusting his kicker which he just resigned....Ravens are headed for 7-9 or 8-8 season..missing the playoffs..Flacco has reached his "peak"...time to start looking at other options when it comes time to renegotiate his contract..dude isnt worth an elite salary. 

That time for renegotiation is in about 4-5 years. So no point in discussing that until then. Just wasting your own time.

I personally think an 8-8 season would be pretty good. We were a bad team last season if you guys recall, and last I checked, not too many teams go from bad to SB contenders in less than 12 months.

[OUravensfan]

We can all blame Flacco I guess, but like typical Flacco he put the ball in the WRs hands and it was dropped (feet). It was a PERFECT pass to Perriman at the end, and a good pass to Wallace that was just dropped. Wallace dropped a few today. Perriman left two huge plays on the field. WRs making the plays in front of them this year is the difference between 3-2 and 5-0, it is one route that had it been different we could be 5-0. 

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

huh..wildcard??

 

please dude..see the schedule? we would be lucky to get anything more than 2 wins

Well, in his defense, look at the AFC. Its extremely top heavy. 

Hopefully after today people will understand why I've been saying there's very little reason to fear the Bengals this season. Not playing anywhere close to the level they have in past years.

Not to say that we are better or worse than any of those teams, but I don't see six really good AFC teams right now.

[808Blackbirds]

Every catch perriman makes he goes to the ground . Can he make some yac or is it flaccos passes?

[Free Agent]

Just now, rmw10 said:

To clarify, I'm not saying it's going to be a 50/50 split of bad plays and great plays.  I think the good will eventually outweigh the bad, but we know how the bad ones always stick out.

Right, definitely understand your point. I'm just saying that I think the bad ones are due to the fact he's pretty much a rookie for all intents and purposes. A lot of the mistakes seem like things that he can correct once he gets some more experience in games to let the game slow down for him. Right now, I feel like he's in his own head on some of the dumb mistakes.

[rmw10]

Just now, Free Agent said:

Right, definitely understand your point. I'm just saying that I think the bad ones are due to the fact he's pretty much a rookie for all intents and purposes. A lot of the mistakes seem like things that he can correct once he gets some more experience in games to let the game slow down for him. Right now, I feel like he's in his own head on some of the dumb mistakes.

To an extent.  The hands have always been questionable to me.  I think you're always going to get those bad drops from him.  We just have to get him to the point where those big plays mask those bad ones.  I think Houston is experiencing that with Will Fuller right now.  He's dropping some easy ones but making up for them with some huge plays.

[OUravensfan]

You know something is wrong with me when I can't even stomach putting on the Bengals down by 21 to Dallas....I just CAN'T....Just put me with Hillary and Trump with this joke election over football....Damn you RAVENS

[PuRock]

Just now, rmw10 said:

To an extent.  The hands have always been questionable to me.  I think you're always going to get those bad drops from him.  We just have to get him to the point where those big plays mask those bad ones.  I think Houston is experiencing that with Will Fuller right now.  He's dropping some easy ones but making up for them with some huge plays.

Same goes for a guy like Coates.  Look at the stats he had a great day but the three drops were brutal ones. 

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, PuRock said:

Same goes for a guy like Coates.  Look at the stats he had a great day but the three drops were brutal ones. 

Yep.  I don't even think that's a bad thing, necessarily.  Not many huge playmakers in this league that really limit the bad as well.

[OUravensfan]

4 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

To an extent.  The hands have always been questionable to me.  I think you're always going to get those bad drops from him.  We just have to get him to the point where those big plays mask those bad ones.  I think Houston is experiencing that with Will Fuller right now.  He's dropping some easy ones but making up for them with some huge plays.

If Perriman is just gonna be our version of Detroit's Pettigrew, then no thanks. I hope he is better than that.