Five Changes Needed Immediately

[frozen joe flacco fan]

I dont even know why im giving such a long response. Your point makes zero sense. Actually i dont even know what the point was, so im kinda rambling.

 

If you want to put a million dollars down with me on any 1 random play, you win if the D doesnt give up a single yard, and I win if the offense gets at least a yard - youre on. Oh, and btw we're going to do that, "doubling or nothing" it 4 straight times. And oh, btw if I get at any point in those 4 turns 1 yard, thats it, its over. Only I get another shot at double or nothing if I lose.

Fair odds? Like your chances? 

To BOLDnPurPnBLACK:

If only you had been SF's coach instead of Jim Harbaugh, I'm sure the Niners would have scored! Its easy to call the play on your Madden Football game, isn't it? However, in the real world, the highly paid professionals on the Ravens offense and the highly paid pros on the Niners offense could not score a TD on 4th and goal from the 1 yard line. The big difference in the two situations is this. Jim Harbaugh went for it because he had to. John Harbaugh went for it even though he didn't have to. That's called situational decision-making by those of us who have coached football.

I would agree with you that the Ravens should be able to score a TD in that situation but they have consistently demonstrated a propensity to fail. Take the points unless there is no choice at the end of the game. I know that's hard for you to understand in your black and wjite world but it is that simple. BTW, the Seahawks would have won that game had it not been for a great play by Malcolm Butler beating the receiver to the POA.

PS - You really need to learn how to condense your ranting, rambling posts.

Edited November 7, 2016 by frozen joe flacco fan
Forgot to include excerpted quote

[letitgosometimes]

Game time shortly, here are the latest five proposed changes:

1.  Two tight-end formations, two backs out of the I-formation; protect the QB at all costs

2.  More QB snaps from under center to enable play-action passes and effective draws (shotgun hand-offs to running backs are too slow)

3.  Wildcat short yardage to beef up the blocking power

4.  Double blitz; drop a lineman back in short coverage 

5.  Have the offensive linemen set closer to each other - too much gap for Steelers to easily blitz

Bonus: Fast start - Fast finish.  

[letitgosometimes]

Fine tuning the blocking assignments must continue each game.  Basic philosophy: protect the QB to the maximum.  Impressive was the Ravens' punting game with little or no returns possible and receiving team with smart fair catch decisions.  Thursday's game is an excellent opportunity to showcase the O-line with augmented blocking by running backs and motioned in TEs.  Get the blocking schemes solid and the Ravens dash to the playoffs. Today was a mid-season playoff victory based on changes made by the players and coaches over the past two weeks.  The competition thickens after the Cleveland game while the time to make changes is shortened.        

[letitgosometimes]

Five things for tonight:

1. Fake punt

2. Reverse with wide-out in motion

3. Joe calls at least half the game from the line; need this experience for Tier-1 team opponents

4. Tape up the offense linemen's hands; no holding penalties need to be a priority going forward

5. Safety blitzes on first down; go heavy early; shake the QB cause turnovers

 

[52liveforever]

I think we could look at 6 offensive lineman. With our issues on offensive line i I think giving up an extra receiver in exchange for an extra protector might be worth it in games it seems as though Joe is being abused.

[Davesta]

time for the young bucks to take over.

We already got tavon young doing his thing. Time to give Kenneth Dixon the start.

Give darren Waller more looks. A big tight end that's a real nightmare matchup with his speed. 

Pitta cant block nor can he run anything deeper than 5-7 yards. 

Where kamalei anyways? He's not even worth putting in rotation? 

 

 

[January J]

26 minutes ago, Davesta said:

time for the young bucks to take over.

We already got tavon young doing his thing. Time to give Kenneth Dixon the start.

Give darren Waller more looks. A big tight end that's a real nightmare matchup with his speed. 

Pitta cant block nor can he run anything deeper than 5-7 yards. 

Where kamalei anyways? He's not even worth putting in rotation? 

 

 

KC was injured. Agree waller needs more looks

[The Raven]

On 11/10/2016 at 6:22 PM, letitgosometimes said:

Five things for tonight:

1. Fake punt

2. Reverse with wide-out in motion

3. Joe calls at least half the game from the line; need this experience for Tier-1 team opponents

4. Tape up the offense linemen's hands; no holding penalties need to be a priority going forward

5. Safety blitzes on first down; go heavy early; shake the QB cause turnovers

 

How the hell would taping a lineman's hands keep them from holding? I played the position and I'm not sure how the hell that makes sense.

Holding has more to do with footwork and less to do with hands. 

[letitgosometimes]

16 minutes ago, The Raven said:

How the hell would taping a lineman's hands keep them from holding? I played the position and I'm not sure how the hell that makes sense.

Holding has more to do with footwork and less to do with hands. 

Never heard of foot holding - is that a new NFL penalty?  Taping the linemen's hands is both symbolic and preventative.  The tape will remind the linemen not to hold and will prevent their fingers from grabbing opponents.  Ravens can ill afford holding penalties against Tier-one teams going forward.  

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

On 11/4/2016 at 10:20 PM, frozen joe flacco fan said:

I dont even know why im giving such a long response. Your point makes zero sense. Actually i dont even know what the point was, so im kinda rambling.

 

If you want to put a million dollars down with me on any 1 random play, you win if the D doesnt give up a single yard, and I win if the offense gets at least a yard - youre on. Oh, and btw we're going to do that, "doubling or nothing" it 4 straight times. And oh, btw if I get at any point in those 4 turns 1 yard, thats it, its over. Only I get another shot at double or nothing if I lose.

Fair odds? Like your chances? 

To BOLDnPurPnBLACK:

If only you had been SF's coach instead of Jim Harbaugh, I'm sure the Niners would have scored! Its easy to call the play on your Madden Football game, isn't it? However, in the real world, the highly paid professionals on the Ravens offense and the highly paid pros on the Niners offense could not score a TD on 4th and goal from the 1 yard line. The big difference in the two situations is this. Jim Harbaugh went for it because he had to. John Harbaugh went for it even though he didn't have to. That's called situational decision-making by those of us who have coached football.

I would agree with you that the Ravens should be able to score a TD in that situation but they have consistently demonstrated a propensity to fail. Take the points unless there is no choice at the end of the game. I know that's hard for you to understand in your black and wjite world but it is that simple. BTW, the Seahawks would have won that game had it not been for a great play by Malcolm Butler beating the receiver to the POA.

PS - You really need to learn how to condense your ranting, rambling posts.

Sorry it's tough to reply directly when you've tried and someone just isn't getting it. 

Cool you're pointing out 1 scenario. And SF SHOULD have scored. So should Seattle. 

What about the other 75% of coaches who do the same thing in the NFL. Btw I do coach... but sorry if I don't take coaching your son in flag football or peewee over what I see most Nfl and college coaches worth their salt do.

You take the points twice in that situation and with me going for TDs you have to stop me both times or I still come out on top. 

It is black and white bc there's no gray. You either do it or you don't. And between confidence, the fact that offenses convert more than 50% of the time there, the fact that we had already converted from there earlier in the game - you do it. 

Ill repeat that one point for you - since you cited a propensity to fail - we had already converted from the goal line earlier in the game. And even if not, you're banking on a failing offense to drive the field later on and put up another 2 FGs? Bc that's what you'd have to do to top the pts 1 yard gets you.

if you're confident in your offense which you should be, you do it. If you're not, your decision is to trust them to drive the field 2 more times instead of getting 1 yard. Makes sense. Bc 3 pts wasnt winning that game.

and sorry if I put Harbs, Andy Reid, Doug Pederson, Tomlin, McCarthy, Pagano, Gase, and Belichicks coaching decision making above yours.

Seen then all go for it in that situation since. It's not situational. It's a philosophy. If you go for it you go for it. Bc if you go for it every time you'll end up with more pts than had you kicked the FG every time.

You don't have to have that philosophy. But most NFL coaches and metrics professionals do. And that group is growing bc the advanced statistics bare that out. But you can't whine when it doesn't work if you like when it does.

 

Edited November 13, 2016 by Moderator 3
No betting here

[The Raven]

12 hours ago, letitgosometimes said:

Never heard of foot holding - is that a new NFL penalty?  Taping the linemen's hands is both symbolic and preventative.  The tape will remind the linemen not to hold and will prevent their fingers from grabbing opponents.  Ravens can ill afford holding penalties against Tier-one teams going forward.  

Newsflash: olinemen hold when they're out of position. You get out of position when your footwork sucks. Is it that difficult to understand? Well, I guess it is.

And, that's a stupid idea with the tape. Olinemen need fingers to grab the shoulder pads, which is legal. It's only holding if you're grabbing, pulling, or hooking the defender. 

And if you think tape will remind a lineman not to hold, I got some real estate to sell you...

[letitgosometimes]

Five Changes for the Dallas game:

1. Power HB sweeps; stop and throw by HB to dragging TE same-side

2. No running from the shotgun; dead play; the Booth must attack the green space with receivers

3. Play action out of the I-formation; find back after block for release valve

4. Defensive set: three down linemen, blitz one of the LB every play; tag the QB every play (cleanly)

5. Eat dark chocolate during halftime; come out strong especially the second-half

Bonus:  Check down on the blitz by having the wide-out run directly toward Joe for a missile pass, and then turn-up field behind slot end blocker 

 

[letitgosometimes]

Additional five changes for Dallas game:

1. No naked backfield for Joe this game

2. Two return men back for the punts

3. Find Walls at the chains 

4.  Execute counters out of the I-formation, then fake and have Joe role to his right side for pass

5. Troll Dallas' TE; nervous Dallas QB to throw to Witten under pressure; easy interception for DB

 

Bonus:  Change the count often; draw the pumped-up Dallas defense off sides

[frozen joe flacco fan]

On ‎11‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 4:08 AM, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Sorry it's tough to reply directly when you've tried and someone just isn't getting it. 

Cool you're pointing out 1 scenario. And SF SHOULD have scored. So should Seattle. 

What about the other 75% of coaches who do the same thing in the NFL. Btw I do coach... but sorry if I don't take coaching your son in flag football or peewee over what I see most Nfl and college coaches worth their salt do.

You take the points twice in that situation and with me going for TDs you have to stop me both times or I still come out on top. 

It is black and white bc there's no gray. You either do it or you don't. And between confidence, the fact that offenses convert more than 50% of the time there, the fact that we had already converted from there earlier in the game - you do it. 

Ill repeat that one point for you - since you cited a propensity to fail - we had already converted from the goal line earlier in the game. And even if not, you're banking on a failing offense to drive the field later on and put up another 2 FGs? Bc that's what you'd have to do to top the pts 1 yard gets you.

if you're confident in your offense which you should be, you do it. If you're not, your decision is to trust them to drive the field 2 more times instead of getting 1 yard. Makes sense. Bc 3 pts wasnt winning that game.

and sorry if I put Harbs, Andy Reid, Doug Pederson, Tomlin, McCarthy, Pagano, Gase, and Belichicks coaching decision making above yours.

Seen then all go for it in that situation since. It's not situational. It's a philosophy. If you go for it you go for it. Bc if you go for it every time you'll end up with more pts than had you kicked the FG every time.

You don't have to have that philosophy. But most NFL coaches and metrics professionals do. And that group is growing bc the advanced statistics bare that out. But you can't whine when it doesn't work if you like when it does.

Frankly, Mac, the above-mentioned coaches' decision-making has nothing to do with the argument about going for it on 4th and 1. Some of them have been very successful in similar situations and others have not. Your good ole buddy Harbs has not and that's why our record is as mediocre as it is. There is one thing that is clear cut and black & white, to use one of your favorite trite expressions and that is John's poor decision-making. Quite frankly, your list of coaches demonstrates your complete lack of knowledge of the sport. None of the coaches you have mentioned except Belicheat could come close to the exploits of some really great coaches named Lombardi, Landry, Shula, Parcells and Gibb just to name a few. I don't know what your coaching resume looks like but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You could do a better job of coaching this team than Harbs. If you are selected for the job, be BOLD and just take the points on 4th and 1 until we get a decent O-line. Its black & white or in your case black and purple.  

[letitgosometimes]

Five changes against Cincinnati:

1. Run screens (double)

2. Control the middle of the field on defense

3. Stop the Bangles run game

4. Try something game breaker-like such as half-back pass or flea-flicker (these will come in handy for the playoffs)

5. Take THE points;

 

Bonus: Sit any player down if he makes two fouls in the same quarter; if a player can't focus, make him a game watcher.

[Ravens8383]

Social media has been blowing up saying Flacco needs to go. What these 'fans' don't get is that there is no one out there right now worth trading a Super Bowl MVP & Champion for. You think that the Browns, Bears, 49ers wouldn't be lining up at the door if Ozzie put Flacco on the trade block?  Sure they could take draft picks for him but come on people. The Cowboys are breaking the laws of the NFL with Prescott being as good as he is right now. Look at the Browns they haven't been able to find a QB for what seems like 20 years and they always draft in the top 10. 

[letitgosometimes]

6 minutes ago, Ravens8383 said:

Social media has been blowing up saying Flacco needs to go. What these 'fans' don't get is that there is no one out there right now worth trading a Super Bowl MVP & Champion for. You think that the Browns, Bears, 49ers wouldn't be lining up at the door if Ozzie put Flacco on the trade block?  Sure they could take draft picks for him but come on people. The Cowboys are breaking the laws of the NFL with Prescott being as good as he is right now. Look at the Browns they haven't been able to find a QB for what seems like 20 years and they always draft in the top 10. 

A young dynamic playmaker by the name of Johnathan Paul Manziel is available.

[redrum52]

Lets see.. 5 Changes?

 

Another competent cb next to Jimmy.

A new C.

A TE who may be able to block and catch.

A pass rusher.

An OC who will work to our personnels strengths.

 

 

Sorry, just saw the immediately part.  Then just one change.  Fans need to accept what this team is.

Edited November 22, 2016 by redrum52

[Ravens8383]

4 minutes ago, letitgosometimes said:

A young dynamic playmaker by the name of Johnathan Paul Manziel is available.

So is Tebow.

[The Raven]

28 minutes ago, letitgosometimes said:

A young dynamic playmaker by the name of Johnathan Paul Manziel is available.

Never post again.

[redrum52]

2 minutes ago, The Raven said:

Never post again.

Lmao... half these posts are his and most of the ideas seem to be from some Disney sports movie for a training method,  ie the tape idea.  people try to stay away from the boards after a loss but I find them very useful for comedic relief.

[K-Dog]

6 hours ago, letitgosometimes said:

A young dynamic playmaker by the name of Johnathan Paul Manziel is available.

There are legit reasons he is not playing in the NFL right now.  Care to take a guess at what some of those reasons my be?

[letitgosometimes]

Five additional changes for Cincinnati game:

1. Joe must throw for 10 plus yards, per pass or not at all.

2. Defense must force turnovers; Ravens must capitalize on scoring opportunities.

3. Pull guard and tackle for student body power sweeps; target 5 yard run plays.

4. Squeaky clean football on both sides of scrimmage; lose your head and you will lose the game.

5. Pull all stops; this game is signature Ravens - keep moving the chains with aggressive offensive and defensive calls.

 

Bonus: Make this game a solid 32 outing for the offense and less than 14 for the defense; swam the football.

[Cillmatic]

Aiken's snaps can be split. Perriman needs to be on the field.

[balfan23]

3 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Aiken's snaps can be split. Perriman needs to be on the field.

IMO, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if Aiken never saw the field. We need SSS and Wallace out there as our experienced wide outs, but Aiken is not our future. Perriman - well, he may not be our future either - but there is only one way to find out. He needs more reps and we need to work in plays to get him in space. If nothing else, it is clear he is a dangerous weapon and we need to develop that. 

[letitgosometimes]

On 11/27/2016 at 11:06 AM, balfan23 said:

IMO, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if Aiken never saw the field. We need SSS and Wallace out there as our experienced wide outs, but Aiken is not our future. Perriman - well, he may not be our future either - but there is only one way to find out. He needs more reps and we need to work in plays to get him in space. If nothing else, it is clear he is a dangerous weapon and we need to develop that. 

Aiken, Wallace, Perriman are a prolific trio if given the right routes and time for Joe to deliver the football.  Aiken catches everything thrown to him and has a nose for the football.  He is a play maker with great hands.  It is time sit SSS down until the playoffs.

[balfan23]

1 minute ago, letitgosometimes said:

Aiken, Wallace, Perriman are a prolific trio if given the right routes and time for Joe to deliver the football.  Aiken catches everything thrown to him and has a nose for the football.  He is a play maker with great hands.  It is time sit SSS down until the playoffs.

Yeah - perhaps I was a bit dismissive of Aiken. What I really needed to say is, that if we're going to be using SSS and Wallace so heavily, I don't want to see Aiken taking a lot of snaps from Perriman. I think developing (or at least trying to develop) Perriman is a high priority.

Since we are a contending team, though, we have to also do whatever it takes to get the W. SSS has been a spark plug and I can't see sitting him down until the playoffs, because if we do that I don't think there will be any playoffs. He definitely did not have a good game this past Sunday and I think it will be good for us to take some of the focus away from him, but not sit him. 

[letitgosometimes]

Five changes against Dolphins:

1. TE must block or replace with offensive tackle

2. Roll Joe to right only for passes

3. Quick pitch to half back (then reverse to wide out)

4. No shot-gun run plays

5. Three-man rush with two DB-blitzes on second and third downs

 

 

Bonus: Drag the receivers 12 yards from center of field to right side where Joe is rolling

 

 

 

 

[letitgosometimes]

Five last minute changes:

1. Use motion to free up your receivers

2. Use hard count

3. Strong box on defense; Miami likes to attack center of field 

4. If Miami rolls right, be sure to keep screen left in check; expect lots of screens

5. Miami knows how important this game is to them; Ravens must strive to win every play with smart football and quick recovery.

 

Bonus:  Get on the early; make the fish swim upstream!

[ravensnj]

One change: grab a free agent receiver, prior to the end of free agency. Brandin Cooks from NO is just the guy we need, quick and can catch. Worthy enough to give up an early pick.