[News] Late For Work 10/6: Ravens Playoff Odds & Ray Lewis' Fun Way Of Welcoming Back Tom Brady

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Ravens drop out of top 10 in national power rankings. What to make of Ronnie Stanley still not practicing. Joseph Bauer showing signs of improvement. Ravens work out another safety. Justin Forsett keeping sense of humor during job hunt.

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[Space11jams]

If Trestman can't get it together, I don't see him sticking around much longer. We were better off grabbing Gase or Norv Turner who has the Viking offense clicking with Bradford.

[Bruce_Almty]

PLAYOFFS??? You're talking PLAYOFFS? I'm just wondering if the Ravens can win another game. Thanks Jim. lol

Edited October 6, 2016 by Bruce_Almty

[Ravenshine]

Good news on Bauer! thanks for update on him. LOL @ RL welcoming Brady back. Looking forward to that week 14 MNF.

[fusuymada]

Either Harbaugh isn't going to Trestman and telling him his style of play calling doesn't suit his personnel and it has to change or Trestman is ignoring him. Either way, someone is at fault here. It is the job of the Head Coach to make sure that the game plan ties into the strengths of your team and takes advantage of the weaknesses of the other team. I don't think there is a Pop Warner coach who doesn't utilize that strategy. Yet Trestman continues to call plays that baffle the mind, fail to utilize Flacco's arm, Wallace and Perriman's speed, the zone blocking experience the line and backs have and just plods along with the same strategy he used in Chicago. Hello, Trestman, you're in Baltimore now and you just can't use the same plays and the same calls you used with Cutler. If I am Bisciotti, somebody is getting an earful and maybe everyone from Ozzie to Trestman need to get an earful because I started saying this two weeks ago, since then virtually every pundit and analyst has said exactly the same thing and Hensley basically tweets out exactly the same thing, Trestman doesn't know how to use Flacco's arm.

[TheFlacAttacIsBac]

If Trestman can't get it together, I don't see him sticking around much longer. We were better off grabbing Gase or Norv Turner who has the Viking offense clicking with Bradford.

You realize that of your suggestions one is now a HC (Gase) and the other (Turner) opted to go to Minny before Gary Kubiak was hired by the Broncos? It's not like the Ravens can just choose whoever they want as an OC, there are 31 other teams....

[RavenLunatic]

I'm so sick of the Ravens offense constantly being in the lower tier of the NFL. It is time to put up or shut up for Flacco and I am a huge fan of his. I also think Trestman does a disservice for this team too. Granted we have a lot of question marks on the left side, and that is on the GM for not making sure our depth chart was adequate. So, another year of disappointment looms for this offense because the Ravens, as a whole can't freaking get it right. SO FRUSTRANTING!!!

[crazyboutravens]

So all the experts who are not experts have Power rankings. But, does anyone care what these non-experts really think? If the Ravens were 4-0 and had four
shutouts we would still be in the bottom of the Power rankings.

[rmcjacket23]

So all the experts who are not experts have Power rankings. But, does anyone care what these non-experts really think? If the Ravens were 4-0 and had four
shutouts we would still be in the bottom of the Power rankings.

Gross exaggeration.

[RavenLunatic]

Why do I feel like the Stanley injury is going to turn out like the Perriman injury last year?

[ryananth]

Why do I feel like the Stanley injury is going to turn out like the Perriman injury last year?

Probably because most of what you post on here is negative

[Ravenshine]

Why do I feel like the Stanley injury is going to turn out like the Perriman injury last year?

Don't worry, it's not. Stanley's first injury pretty much and he even felt he could play thru it. Knee injuries are tricker to heal. His is a foot injury.

[poescrows]

"I love this man’s sense of humor even when he’s out of work."....I could have a sense of humor too if I didn't have to work but still got $3 million this year. Just saying, not like he's worrying about how he's gonna make the car payment this month, lol.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  2 hours ago, RavenLunatic said:

Why do I feel like the Stanley injury is going to turn out like the Perriman injury last year?

Probably because most of what you post on here is negative

lmao...post of day!

[Zeus]

Great picture by RL!

Miss those days when we could actually get to the QB

[eze17]

"I love this man’s sense of humor even when he’s out of work."....I could have a sense of humor too if I didn't have to work but still got $3 million this year. Just saying, not like he's worrying about how he's gonna make the car payment this month, lol.

Ho-Ho-Ho...you hit that right on the nose...and yet there's a lot of people out there who feel sorry for the millionaire...

[runcontrol]

3 hours ago, Space11jams said:

If Trestman can't get it together, I don't see him sticking around much longer. We were better off grabbing Gase or Norv Turner who has the Viking offense clicking with Bradford.

 

While I agree that Trestman has been hurting this offense but the Vikings and the Dolphins are both averaging less yards a game then the Ravens and Vikings are only averaging one more point a game then the Ravens.  Sure that one point would have helped last week but its not like either one of these teams have great offenses.  

 

3 hours ago, RavenLunatic said:

I'm so sick of the Ravens offense constantly being in the lower tier of the NFL. It is time to put up or shut up for Flacco and I am a huge fan of his. I also think Trestman does a disservice for this team too. Granted we have a lot of question marks on the left side, and that is on the GM for not making sure our depth chart was adequate. So, another year of disappointment looms for this offense because the Ravens, as a whole can't freaking get it right. SO FRUSTRANTING!!!

Well I have some good news, according to NFL.com those ranks in that article are completely wrong.  The Ravens have number 1 ranked defense and the 19th ranked offense.  And in all honesty a big game ore two could easily put them in top 15, or higher.  

When it comes to the offense Trestman is definitely problem number one, but dropped passes and penalties are arguably 2 and 3 on that list.    Then you have the offensive line struggling in both pass blocking and run blocking.  Even with that said, I think its a little early to say "another year of disappointment looms for this offense"   Like one expert was saying, with limited offseason practices the first four games of the season are like preseason games.  Teams are still figuring around what they are good at and when needs to be fixed,  There is still time to turn things around.  Last season the Ravens were able to fix their pass defense and late into the 2012 season a change in OCs helped the Ravens win the Super Bowl.  But they need to fix things now because their schedule is about to get a lot tougher. 

[Ravenous_Ravens]

  4 hours ago, Space11jams said:

If Trestman can't get it together, I don't see him sticking around much longer. We were better off grabbing Gase or Norv Turner who has the Viking offense clicking with Bradford.

 

While I agree that Trestman has been hurting this offense but the Vikings and the Dolphins are both averaging less yards a game then the Ravens and Vikings are only averaging one more point a game then the Ravens.  Sure that one point would have helped last week but its not like either one of these teams have great offenses.  

 

  4 hours ago, RavenLunatic said:

I'm so sick of the Ravens offense constantly being in the lower tier of the NFL. It is time to put up or shut up for Flacco and I am a huge fan of his. I also think Trestman does a disservice for this team too. Granted we have a lot of question marks on the left side, and that is on the GM for not making sure our depth chart was adequate. So, another year of disappointment looms for this offense because the Ravens, as a whole can't freaking get it right. SO FRUSTRANTING!!!

Well I have some good news, according to NFL.com those ranks in that article are completely wrong.  The Ravens have number 1 ranked defense and the 19th ranked offense.  And in all honesty a big game ore two could easily put them in top 15, or higher.  

When it comes to the offense Trestman is definitely problem number one, but dropped passes and penalties are arguably 2 and 3 on that list.    Then you have the offensive line struggling in both pass blocking and run blocking.  Even with that said, I think its a little early to say "another year of disappointment looms for this offense"   Like one expert was saying, with limited offseason practices the first four games of the season are like preseason games.  Teams are still figuring around what they are good at and when needs to be fixed,  There is still time to turn things around.  Last season the Ravens were able to fix their pass defense and late into the 2012 season a change in OCs helped the Ravens win the Super Bowl.  But they need to fix things now because their schedule is about to get a lot tougher. 

The lack of a sense of urgency from the coaches is what worries me. Since when is a coach okay with a close loss in a must win game situation. Must win because last week was a very winnable game and especially because the schedule only gets tougher here on out. I get you gotta keep your head on straight and not sink when you lose, but it really seemed like no one was concerned with the lack of execution throughout mostly the first 3 quarters.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

I'm so sick of the Ravens offense constantly being in the lower tier of the NFL. It is time to put up or shut up for Flacco and I am a huge fan of his. I also think Trestman does a disservice for this team too. Granted we have a lot of question marks on the left side, and that is on the GM for not making sure our depth chart was adequate. So, another year of disappointment looms for this offense because the Ravens, as a whole can't freaking get it right. SO FRUSTRANTING!!!

This organization knows Defense first and foremost. They also know Special Teams. Offense is really a guessing game like shooting into the dark.

The Ravens need to get better at assessing offensive players and coaches. this is the main reason their offenses only really ever peak as much as they do.

Still going throw this out there because each week that goes by I keep getting reminded of what could have been. Second round draft pick should have been WR Sterling Shepard. He is a great slot receiver that can create enough separation to make tough catches. He also could have been a return man for punt and most likely kickoffs. He had much more upside than trying to convert Reynolds from QB to WR/return man. He also has a much more sturdy frame than Campanaro. They even could have still traded back the first time and gotten him. KC has shown very little from a second round pick in comparison. I don't even put that all on him though, since they brought him in to play a new position.

Yes this is just one move that could have had many positive gains on this team. It would have let them move on from Campanaro and use the Reynolds pick on another position of need that might contribute in a bigger manner, say CB/S or O-line. They would had no reason to go and sign a aging return man who is now dealing with injury and had some issues with the muffs.

For the record, I was promoting the Ravens draft Sterling Shepard since before the drat happened.

[Ravenshine]

  2 hours ago, poescrows said:

"I love this man’s sense of humor even when he’s out of work."....I could have a sense of humor too if I didn't have to work but still got $3 million this year. Just saying, not like he's worrying about how he's gonna make the car payment this month, lol.

Ho-Ho-Ho...you hit that right on the nose...and yet there's a lot of people out there who feel sorry for the millionaire...

Good points eze17 (and poescrows) I don't feel sorry for him now, I'm happy for all his good fortune ?

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Either Harbaugh isn't going to Trestman and telling him his style of play calling doesn't suit his personnel and it has to change or Trestman is ignoring him. Either way, someone is at fault here. It is the job of the Head Coach to make sure that the game plan ties into the strengths of your team and takes advantage of the weaknesses of the other team. I don't think there is a Pop Warner coach who doesn't utilize that strategy. Yet Trestman continues to call plays that baffle the mind, fail to utilize Flacco's arm, Wallace and Perriman's speed, the zone blocking experience the line and backs have and just plods along with the same strategy he used in Chicago. Hello, Trestman, you're in Baltimore now and you just can't use the same plays and the same calls you used with Cutler. If I am Bisciotti, somebody is getting an earful and maybe everyone from Ozzie to Trestman need to get an earful because I started saying this two weeks ago, since then virtually every pundit and analyst has said exactly the same thing and Hensley basically tweets out exactly the same thing, Trestman doesn't know how to use Flacco's arm.

Well it is much more obvious than that because it really is Harbs giving the long leash. If an OC/DC or any coach is not cutting it, it falls on the HC to deal with it and right the ship. If that doesn't happen, the flack rise to the top for not dealing with it (doing their job).

To be fair we did see more run commitment by Trestman last game. But the penalties (dumb one at that) killed too many drives and stopped any kind of rhythm form forming. Teams are taking away the top and playing the run, so the middle of the field and seams should be wide open yet they do not take advantage enough. Throwing for 45+ attempts a game also does not bode well for a long season and hopefully playoffs. A game or two here and there is good, but any kind of pattern like that will be a bad thing come December unless the run game decides to really explode and take off.

[eze17]

  1 hour ago, runcontrol said:

  5 hours ago, Space11jams said:

If Trestman can't get it together, I don't see him sticking around much longer. We were better off grabbing Gase or Norv Turner who has the Viking offense clicking with Bradford.

 

While I agree that Trestman has been hurting this offense but the Vikings and the Dolphins are both averaging less yards a game then the Ravens and Vikings are only averaging one more point a game then the Ravens.  Sure that one point would have helped last week but its not like either one of these teams have great offenses.  

 

  5 hours ago, RavenLunatic said:

I'm so sick of the Ravens offense constantly being in the lower tier of the NFL. It is time to put up or shut up for Flacco and I am a huge fan of his. I also think Trestman does a disservice for this team too. Granted we have a lot of question marks on the left side, and that is on the GM for not making sure our depth chart was adequate. So, another year of disappointment looms for this offense because the Ravens, as a whole can't freaking get it right. SO FRUSTRANTING!!!

Well I have some good news, according to NFL.com those ranks in that article are completely wrong.  The Ravens have number 1 ranked defense and the 19th ranked offense.  And in all honesty a big game ore two could easily put them in top 15, or higher.  

When it comes to the offense Trestman is definitely problem number one, but dropped passes and penalties are arguably 2 and 3 on that list.    Then you have the offensive line struggling in both pass blocking and run blocking.  Even with that said, I think its a little early to say "another year of disappointment looms for this offense"   Like one expert was saying, with limited offseason practices the first four games of the season are like preseason games.  Teams are still figuring around what they are good at and when needs to be fixed,  There is still time to turn things around.  Last season the Ravens were able to fix their pass defense and late into the 2012 season a change in OCs helped the Ravens win the Super Bowl.  But they need to fix things now because their schedule is about to get a lot tougher. 

The lack of a sense of urgency from the coaches is what worries me. Since when is a coach okay with a close loss in a must win game situation. Must win because last week was a very winnable game and especially because the schedule only gets tougher here on out. I get you gotta keep your head on straight and not sink when you lose, but it really seemed like no one was concerned with the lack of execution throughout mostly the first 3 quarters.

1: Last week was in no way, shape or form a "must win"...just another game on the schedule, always great to win it, but a loss to a good team should be no reason to cry doom...

2: Let's see, Skin's, Jet's and Jint's next three weeks...not exactually the toughest three team's in the NFL, and in my opinion the Raven's are superior to all three, irreguardless of two of them being on the road. So no, not the toughest part of our schedule...

3: Where are you getting your information that there is no concern or sense of urgency from the coaching staff? Seemed to me that Harb's was pretty hot about all the stupid penalties we racked up last sunday. And I am sure that the lack of execution that Hurst and Jensen showed on the left side of our line was not only noticed, but will be addressed. I really didn't get the sense that Sunday's loss was "O.K." with the staff, I got the feeling that Harb's knows that we need to improve as a football team...

[eze17]

  5 hours ago, RavenLunatic said:

I'm so sick of the Ravens offense constantly being in the lower tier of the NFL. It is time to put up or shut up for Flacco and I am a huge fan of his. I also think Trestman does a disservice for this team too. Granted we have a lot of question marks on the left side, and that is on the GM for not making sure our depth chart was adequate. So, another year of disappointment looms for this offense because the Ravens, as a whole can't freaking get it right. SO FRUSTRANTING!!!

This organization knows Defense first and foremost. They also know Special Teams. Offense is really a guessing game like shooting into the dark.

The Ravens need to get better at assessing offensive players and coaches. this is the main reason their offenses only really ever peak as much as they do.

Still going throw this out there because each week that goes by I keep getting reminded of what could have been. Second round draft pick should have been WR Sterling Shepard. He is a great slot receiver that can create enough separation to make tough catches. He also could have been a return man for punt and most likely kickoffs. He had much more upside than trying to convert Reynolds from QB to WR/return man. He also has a much more sturdy frame than Campanaro. They even could have still traded back the first time and gotten him. KC has shown very little from a second round pick in comparison. I don't even put that all on him though, since they brought him in to play a new position.

Yes this is just one move that could have had many positive gains on this team. It would have let them move on from Campanaro and use the Reynolds pick on another position of need that might contribute in a bigger manner, say CB/S or O-line. They would had no reason to go and sign a aging return man who is now dealing with injury and had some issues with the muffs.

For the record, I was promoting the Ravens draft Sterling Shepard since before the drat happened.

Yet every team passed on him in the first round, and well over half of them in the second...maybe you should take up being a NFL general manager.

As for that, every team in the league passed on Tom Brady at least five times, so i'm guessing that pretty much ALL the GM's should be immediately fired for failing to perceive his greatness...

And seeing how it's only four games into their career, i'll wait to pass judgement on either Shepard or Correa until we have a better sampling size...

[FloridalovesRavens]

  3 hours ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

  3 hours ago, runcontrol said:

  8 hours ago, Space11jams said:

If Trestman can't get it together, I don't see him sticking around much longer. We were better off grabbing Gase or Norv Turner who has the Viking offense clicking with Bradford.

 

While I agree that Trestman has been hurting this offense but the Vikings and the Dolphins are both averaging less yards a game then the Ravens and Vikings are only averaging one more point a game then the Ravens.  Sure that one point would have helped last week but its not like either one of these teams have great offenses.  

 

  7 hours ago, RavenLunatic said:

I'm so sick of the Ravens offense constantly being in the lower tier of the NFL. It is time to put up or shut up for Flacco and I am a huge fan of his. I also think Trestman does a disservice for this team too. Granted we have a lot of question marks on the left side, and that is on the GM for not making sure our depth chart was adequate. So, another year of disappointment looms for this offense because the Ravens, as a whole can't freaking get it right. SO FRUSTRANTING!!!

Well I have some good news, according to NFL.com those ranks in that article are completely wrong.  The Ravens have number 1 ranked defense and the 19th ranked offense.  And in all honesty a big game ore two could easily put them in top 15, or higher.  

When it comes to the offense Trestman is definitely problem number one, but dropped passes and penalties are arguably 2 and 3 on that list.    Then you have the offensive line struggling in both pass blocking and run blocking.  Even with that said, I think its a little early to say "another year of disappointment looms for this offense"   Like one expert was saying, with limited offseason practices the first four games of the season are like preseason games.  Teams are still figuring around what they are good at and when needs to be fixed,  There is still time to turn things around.  Last season the Ravens were able to fix their pass defense and late into the 2012 season a change in OCs helped the Ravens win the Super Bowl.  But they need to fix things now because their schedule is about to get a lot tougher. 

The lack of a sense of urgency from the coaches is what worries me. Since when is a coach okay with a close loss in a must win game situation. Must win because last week was a very winnable game and especially because the schedule only gets tougher here on out. I get you gotta keep your head on straight and not sink when you lose, but it really seemed like no one was concerned with the lack of execution throughout mostly the first 3 quarters.

1: Last week was in no way, shape or form a "must win"...just another game on the schedule, always great to win it, but a loss to a good team should be no reason to cry doom...

2: Let's see, Skin's, Jet's and Jint's next three weeks...not exactually the toughest three team's in the NFL, and in my opinion the Raven's are superior to all three, irreguardless of two of them being on the road. So no, not the toughest part of our schedule...

3: Where are you getting your information that there is no concern or sense of urgency from the coaching staff? Seemed to me that Harb's was pretty hot about all the stupid penalties we racked up last sunday. And I am sure that the lack of execution that Hurst and Jensen showed on the left side of our line was not only noticed, but will be addressed. I really didn't get the sense that Sunday's loss was "O.K." with the staff, I got the feeling that Harb's knows that we need to improve as a football team...

I agree!

[FloridalovesRavens]

  5 hours ago, poescrows said:

"I love this man’s sense of humor even when he’s out of work."....I could have a sense of humor too if I didn't have to work but still got $3 million this year. Just saying, not like he's worrying about how he's gonna make the car payment this month, lol.

Ho-Ho-Ho...you hit that right on the nose...and yet there's a lot of people out there who feel sorry for the millionaire...

Ho-ho_ho I feel for him. It's not always about money. Some players just love the game. I think Justin is one of those.

[Halshayeji]

Trading for someone like ummm.... Let's say Joe Thomas would solve a lot of problems

[Zeus]

  16 hours ago, eze17 said:

  18 hours ago, poescrows said:

"I love this man’s sense of humor even when he’s out of work."....I could have a sense of humor too if I didn't have to work but still got $3 million this year. Just saying, not like he's worrying about how he's gonna make the car payment this month, lol.

Ho-Ho-Ho...you hit that right on the nose...and yet there's a lot of people out there who feel sorry for the millionaire...

Ho-ho_ho I feel for him. It's not always about money. Some players just love the game. I think Justin is one of those.

Don't be foolish. I remember him asking the ravens to show some "love" when it was contract time. If it was just for the enjoyment they would donate most of the wealth.
There is nothing wrong with getting paid and it's always about the money!

[eze17]

  20 hours ago, eze17 said:

  22 hours ago, poescrows said:

"I love this man’s sense of humor even when he’s out of work."....I could have a sense of humor too if I didn't have to work but still got $3 million this year. Just saying, not like he's worrying about how he's gonna make the car payment this month, lol.

Ho-Ho-Ho...you hit that right on the nose...and yet there's a lot of people out there who feel sorry for the millionaire...

Ho-ho_ho I feel for him. It's not always about money. Some players just love the game. I think Justin is one of those.

Oh, i'm sure that Forsett loves the game and as i've said, he's a classy guy and I wish him the best...That being said, I really don't feel sorry for someone who is walking out the door with THREE MILLION guaranteed money in the bank, with the opportunity to make more on top of that if any other team picks him up. the point in the article is that he's still got a sense of humor after being released, which yeah, I could still laugh a lot with THREE MIL. in my pocket...