Just Chip Block on Every Play!

[Worthy]

After watching the New Orlean Saints play even in 4 WR sets and how their WR chip block every play to give Brees that extra second -- let's just make it a point to CHIP block every stinking play!  How is it that Carr doesn't get hit?  Cause they are chipping our edge rushers!  Why is it that JOE gets clobbered?  Because we aren't helping our tackles (especially Hurst against Mack -- did anyone think that Hurst was going to win that battle?)

Just make it a point to chip block every stinking play!  Tick off their edge rushers!  Give Joe a pocket -- and an extra second and watch our offense take off!  

It's the same thing every stinking week!  JUST CHIP BLOCK every play PLEASE!

Mr. Trestman -- PLEASE for the love of B'More fans everywhere -- CHIP BLOCK every play PLEASE!

 

 

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, Worthy said:

After watching the New Orlean Saints play even in 4 WR sets and how their WR chip block every play to give Brees that extra second -- let's just make it a point to CHIP block every stinking play!  How is it that Carr doesn't get hit?  Cause they are chipping our edge rushers!  Why is it that JOE gets clobbered?  Because we aren't helping our tackles (especially Hurst against Mack -- did anyone think that Hurst was going to win that battle?)

Just make it a point to chip block every stinking play!  Tick off their edge rushers!  Give Joe a pocket -- and an extra second and watch our offense take off!  

It's the same thing every stinking week!  JUST CHIP BLOCK every play PLEASE!

Mr. Trestman -- PLEASE for the love of B'More fans everywhere -- CHIP BLOCK every play PLEASE!

 

 

So now our plays will develop even slower than they do now...

Brilliant!

[Deflated Football]

That's why I miss Todd Heap. He was always that TE that did the dirty work. Mix in some two Tight End sets and have Crockett chip and then screen. He's a monster with the ball in his hands. But nope, let's leave Hurst one on one with Mack with very little help. 

[Deflated Football]

16 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

So now our plays will develop even slower than they do now...

Brilliant!

Well Flacco is a slow developing QB lol. He's not going to sit in the pocket and tear defenses apart with quick decisions. Might as well give him some extra time. 

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, Deflated Football said:

Well Flacco is a slow developing QB lol. He's not going to sit in the pocket and tear defenses apart with quick decisions. Might as well give him some extra time. 

You'll also notice that the OP is referencing what receivers do in FOUR WIDE sets. For starters, I can assure you that all four WRs weren't chipping, and most importantly, we aren't likely to play a ton of four WR sets.

If we're in a base or even 3 wide set, having one or two WRs chip means maybe 1-2 players are actually running routes that could be completed in a reasonable amount of time.

I just don't see how this works. It works doing it occasionally, and typically we would just have a TE or RB/FB help with protection.

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

25 minutes ago, Worthy said:

After watching the New Orlean Saints play even in 4 WR sets and how their WR chip block every play to give Brees that extra second -- let's just make it a point to CHIP block every stinking play!  How is it that Carr doesn't get hit?  Cause they are chipping our edge rushers!  Why is it that JOE gets clobbered?  Because we aren't helping our tackles (especially Hurst against Mack -- did anyone think that Hurst was going to win that battle?)

Just make it a point to chip block every stinking play!  Tick off their edge rushers!  Give Joe a pocket -- and an extra second and watch our offense take off!  

It's the same thing every stinking week!  JUST CHIP BLOCK every play PLEASE!

Mr. Trestman -- PLEASE for the love of B'More fans everywhere -- CHIP BLOCK every play PLEASE!

 

 

 

I haven't rewatched that game again(mainly because I'm no rush to rewatch that infuriating loss),but I think Mack was chipped on the sack that he beat Wagner on.It didn't slow him down much.If it wasn't on that play then it was on one of the plays where Joe was hit or sack.

[The Raven]

30 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

You'll also notice that the OP is referencing what receivers do in FOUR WIDE sets. For starters, I can assure you that all four WRs weren't chipping, and most importantly, we aren't likely to play a ton of four WR sets.

If we're in a base or even 3 wide set, having one or two WRs chip means maybe 1-2 players are actually running routes that could be completed in a reasonable amount of time.

I just don't see how this works. It works doing it occasionally, and typically we would just have a TE or RB/FB help with protection.

I rarely even see receivers chip... hard to do that efficiently from the slot...

The best way to chip is for a tight end to punch the DE at the line when he goes out for his route, or for the back to jack the defender up on his way to the flat.

[redrum52]

29 minutes ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

 

I haven't rewatched that game again(mainly because I'm no rush to rewatch that infuriating loss),but I think Mack was chipped on the sack that he beat Wagner on.It didn't slow him down much.If it wasn't on that play then it was on one of the plays where Joe was hit or sack.

It looked like he gained momentum on the chip to be honest.  Wagner did an awful job on that block.

[AsianRice]

We did sent some help like chip-block on things but our tacklers suck so bad that even we can run through it....Raiders came in as last defensive rating and Mack recording no sack....

It was just painful to watch Raiders game when I kept screaming "protection protection!!!" all game long.....

[PurpleCity5]

We did do chip blocks.. 

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Do you now see what I am referring to when I say -- at critical times we DID NOT CHIP BLOCK!

[Worthy]

On Carr's TD Pass -- they leave 7 people to block -- a TE / and a RB to give Carr time to find ONE OF 3 WR that go out on the route!

Just leave TE to block, and then go into the flats!  With Perriman, Wallace, S Smith, and C. Moore and their speed -- are you not suggesting if you give Joe plenty of time -- they can't get OPEN?  Just give Joe TIME and we'll DRIVE efficiently every game!

[rmcjacket23]

18 minutes ago, Worthy said:

 

We did this many times in the Raiders game. 

[rmcjacket23]

19 minutes ago, Worthy said:

 

Buck Allen chipped on this play... he just did it badly. 

[rmcjacket23]

21 minutes ago, Worthy said:

 

We have six in protection here also. 

[Worthy]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Buck Allen chipped on this play... he just did it badly. 

Allen didn't block -- he touched!  LOL!  And nobody touched Mack!   With HURST on MACK -- don't you agree that he NEEDED HELP on EVERY PLAY?

[rmcjacket23]

21 minutes ago, Worthy said:

 

We have six in protection on this one also.

[Worthy]

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

We have six in protection here also. 

But nobody chipped Mack on Hurst.  The TE needs to line up on Hurst's side -- Jab him inside -- then go out into the flat.  Mack was a one man wrecking crew -- and WE KNEW that going into the GAME!  We didn't game plan effectively to SHUT HIM OUT!

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, Worthy said:

Allen didn't block -- he touched!  LOL!  And nobody touched Mack!   With HURST on MACK -- don't you agree that he NEEDED HELP on EVERY PLAY?

No, I don't. Mack also moved around the line. Didn't line up directly across from Hurst on every play.

Also, when you say "touched", you mean "chipped"... precisely what you're asking them to do? Those Saints WRs aren't blocking anybody. They're nudging, or touching. They're slowing down the rusher by like a half a second.

[rmcjacket23]

9 minutes ago, Worthy said:

On Carr's TD Pass -- they leave 7 people to block -- a TE / and a RB to give Carr time to find ONE OF 3 WR that go out on the route!

Just leave TE to block, and then go into the flats!  With Perriman, Wallace, S Smith, and C. Moore and their speed -- are you not suggesting if you give Joe plenty of time -- they can't get OPEN?  Just give Joe TIME and we'll DRIVE efficiently every game!

LOL, its first and goal in the 1st quarter. They're in a run formation, and we are in a run defense. Of course they have 7 guys in to block, because they're running play action with a bootleg. 

Are you aware that teams run different formations based on the down and distance and time of the game? Don't you think 3rd and long (what most of the Ravens videos showed) is quite a bit different than 1st and goal? If we run this exact formation on 3rd and 9, it wouldn't work, because the other team wouldn't have 7-8 guys in the box trying to stop a running play.

[rmcjacket23]

6 minutes ago, Worthy said:

But nobody chipped Mack on Hurst.  The TE needs to line up on Hurst's side -- Jab him inside -- then go out into the flat.  Mack was a one man wrecking crew -- and WE KNEW that going into the GAME!  We didn't game plan effectively to SHUT HIM OUT!

So your solution was to chip Mack, and let Irvin or the other side rusher get a free rush one on one with Wagner? 

Hint: Wagner wasn't very good in this game. 

And if I were the Raiders and I saw you putting a TE on my side everytime, I'd just move him to the other side. I'd lets the Dline motion before the snap, or I'd just shift Irvin up top and let him go one on one with Hurst, which is a major mismatch still.

These solutions aren't going to work.

Edited October 4, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[The Raven]

This is one area where it can be rough having Pitta out there. Crockett chips well. If Pitta even tries to chip, it's not very effective.

I'm sure we have people telling our players to chip. It's just a matter of players doing it and doing it well. Pitta's bad at it. Forsett wasn't good at it. Buck is better at it than Forsett but still isn't good.

It's tough guys to chip and go out on a route, but when you do it effectively, it can be lethal on both ends of the play. As a former linemen, let me tell ya, a good chip block complete halts a defender, and it makes him think twice on future plays.

[Worthy]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

So your solution was to chip Mack, and let Irvin or the other side rusher get a free rush? 

Hint: Wagner wasn't very good in this game. 

 

HIT BOTH of them!  You needed to shut down their pass rush -- and you give as much HELP as necessary!  Run double TE sets if necessary!  But we allowed too much pressure all game long!  That's the whole reason we lost!  You FIRST priority is pass protection!  If you don't pass protect -- you don't complete passes and you leave as many as you need to leave in to protect as necessary!  It's that simple!

 

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, Worthy said:

HIT BOTH of them!  You needed to shut down their pass rush -- and you give as much HELP as necessary!  Run double TE sets if necessary!  But we allowed too much pressure all game long!  That's the whole reason we lost!  You FIRST priority is pass protection!  If you don't pass protect -- you don't complete passes and you leave as many as you need to leave in to protect as necessary!  It's that simple!

 

And then you don't complete any passes, because you'll be sending three receivers out against their nickel or dime coverage, which is a mismatch for our receivers, who already aren't good at creating separation.

I also saw at least 1 or 2 plays where we kept TEs in, chipped and even helped block and the pass rush still got there. There was rush coming from the middle as well. We can try to bail out our offensive line all day long, but just throwing more poor blocking at it isn't the way to do it.