The Good, Bad and UGLY week 4 against the Raiders

[PurpleCity5]

I think we should go ahead and activate Will Davis and start Young 

[rmw10]

4 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

But its a longer FG, and Janikowski isn't exactly incredibly accurate from 50+. 

You're also a sack or negative play away from being out of FG range.

Guess it's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations. I just didn't feel like the call really accomplished much. 

[Deflated Football]

I've defended Trestman nonstop but not giving Hurst any help one on one against Mack is totally unacceptable. Come on now 

[Cville-Raven]

2 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

This is a below average football team.

I mean we're not great but if we're a below avg team and you look at the AFC, then there are a bunch of below average teams. There aren't any great teams in our division.

[Sami84]

we've been pushing out luck in every game and this time it didnt go our way. We could have lost ALL of our games this way. Chris moore though...he makes that catch and he can probably get another 10 yards after the catch and this game is over.

[Cillmatic]

9 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Nobody should feel confident kicking a 60+ yard FG with any kicker. He's at best a coin flip to make that kick.

We played like we needed 5, but we really needed about 10-15. 

Making 60+ yarders in warmups with no rush and no pressure doesn't justify assuming its going to be made.

Coin flip>>>>>>>>Ravens offense

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

We only get 8 home games.

[JoeyFlex5]

5 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

Going for two there was the right call tbh

yeah. its easy to say otherwise in hindsiight but you dont have that luxury at the time. 

declining the penalty however, was not a hindsight thing, you made the stop, theyre kicking the FG and youre down by 5 by 12 to go, and instead you hope like hell that they dont move the ball at all by taking the penalty and hoping sebastian freaking janikowski doesnt make the kick which he was totally in range for. at that point in time, we literally controlled the outcome of it, did we wanna give them the 3 or give them a chance for 7? we gave them a chance for 7. they got 7, we lost because of it.

[BmoreBird22]

4 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

Bad - Defensive Play calling in the final minute. Pees folded in the final minute after having great play calling the remaining 59 minutes. 

I'm just gonna throw this out there for everyone to see.

That final play call that led to a touchdown was a Cover 3 call. Corners generally play off about 6-8 yards and then get back to a depth of about 20-25 yards (or exactly where the end zone was). There was literally no reason for Wright, a relatively fast player, to get beat over the top because his job was literally to get back there.

Pees actually had an excellent play call to defend that pass, but Wright was abysmal.

[Perfekt]

Fire Trestmen and Pees at the end of the season. Atleast then we have a excuse for the lack of coaching put forth. Pees normal 4th quater defense and Marks lame offense is the reason we are a joke. Harbs keeps sticking by them and he can go too. They are wasting the talent we have.

 

[hen826957]

Just now, Sami84 said:

we've been pushing out luck in every game and this time it didnt go our way. We could have lost ALL of our games this way. Chris moore though...he makes that catch and he can probably get another 10 yards after the catch and this game is over.

Yep the Chris Moore catch would've been it and got us to field goal range. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

5 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

The should've run at least once or twice to get some yardage on 1st and 2nd down then pass on third and if we have too 4th. We pass it 4 straight times. 

We did run on first down. 

[Cillmatic]

Just now, Perfekt said:

Fire Trestmen and Pees at the end of the season. Atleast then we have a excuse for the lack of coaching put forth. Pees normal 4th quater defense and Marks lame offense is the reason we are a joke. Harbs keeps sticking by them and he can go too. They are wasting the talent we have.

 

How is Pees to blame for Wright and Lewis sucking?

[808Blackbirds]

This offense is so predictable. Flacco is throwing 50+ times and he just came back from injury  . Why not  force the run or mix it up with play action atleast at the end of the game. why pass it on all 3 downs so close to mid field.

 

I wonder what the coaches see in James Hurst ...

[Virginia 55]

Seriously, what is it with our offense?  Flacco with weapons is like a fruit basket without fruit, just a decorative piece.  This offense is lousy and has been for years. 

[ratedr]

Good: Um...Tavon Young?

Bad: The offense crapping the bed at inopportune times, and the defense letting the Raiders score every time they crossed midfield. Why are Chris Moore and Shareece Wright employed?

Ugly: The coaching. Honestly the worst coaching job I've seen all year from ANY team. Why were we throwing 4 straight times at the end of the game? Why are we playing soft baby zone when all we have to do is prevent a TD to win? And Harbaugh not declining that penalty was absolutely inexcusable. INEXCUSABLE. I can't wait to hear him get pissy in the post-game presser when he's called out on this like he always does.

Edited October 2, 2016 by ratedr

[BmoreBird22]

5 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Well I was told it was stupid... but Jimmy should've shadowed Crabtree. 

He scores two easy TDs with Wright in coverage on him.  

Those plays weren't because Crabtree used his size or some jump ball advantage; Wright literally just did not play like an NFL corner, so it wouldn't have mattered if it were Amari Cooper back there because it was touchdowns.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

1 minute ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I think we should go ahead and activate Will Davis and start Young 

I can agree with that. They just did it to Forsett why not Wright too?

[Sami84]

Just now, 808Blackbirds said:

This offense is so predictable. Flacco is throwing 50+ times and he just came back from injury  . Why not  force the run or mix it up with play action atleast at the end of the game. why pass it on all 3 downs so close to mid field.

 

I wonder what the coaches see in James Hurst ...

 

''he's a great guy''

 

 

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, Edug27 said:

Thats 5 TD's in the past 3 weeks he's given up!!!!

man i said this all week. shadow crab with jimmy and bracket the hell out of cooper. 

[Sami84]

btw this is a wakeup call to breshad perriman..

 

you're looking like a bust. Start making plays 

[Deflated Football]

2 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I think we should go ahead and activate Will Davis and start Young 

+1,000. Shareece is nothing but a good tackler. He gets picked on every game 

[Cillmatic]

2 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

I mean we're not great but if we're a below avg team and you look at the AFC, then there are a bunch of below average teams. There aren't any great teams in our division.

And? All that means is that we'll lose out on a needed draft pick position.

Edited October 2, 2016 by Cillmatic

[rmcjacket23]

3 minutes ago, xxhighriser said:

Pretty standard where? Back Sebas up and make him kick a 45 yarder instead?  Hes one of the best in the game you dont do that with how shaky our secondary is.  Horrible call.  Going for 2 that early as well.  We get that one point we're driving to win instead of driving not to lose 

LOL, 45 yarder? Umm no. Enforcement of the penalty is 3rd and 17 at the 36, meaning its a 53 yarder from that spot. A sack puts them completely out of range, and any incompletion or short gain is a 50 yard FG. Historically, its a coin flip whether he makes it.

You know what makes it a bad call? Giving up a 17 yard completion on 3rd down AND having veterans jump offsides on 4th down like they've never played football before. That's what makes it a bad call.

[allblackraven]

14 minutes ago, Edug27 said:

I don't know how Carr literally marched down the field in less than a minute for a TD... smh

Wright on Crabtree and Weddle out, with Lewis as help over the top. Not that hard to figure out.

[Edug27]

It's just so mentally draining for us to score a TD. And the Carr marches down the field like it's nothing for the game winner. Ugh.

[BmoreBird22]

7 minutes ago, xxhighriser said:

Pretty standard where? Back Sebas up and make him kick a 45 yarder instead?  Hes one of the best in the game you dont do that with how shaky our secondary is.  Horrible call.  Going for 2 that early as well.  We get that one point we're driving to win instead of driving not to lose 

It would have been like 53-54 if they got no gain.

[edthehead]

Joe, the whole line, Aiken, Moore, harb-boy, trestman am I missing anybody else, oh myself

Good; My eyes were opened today, no matter what happens the rest of the season,

Bad; the same ol' comments , we need to get better, we will go back and fix it, etc,etc.etc

Ugly; we are bad

 the start of the season I knew this was a team and when the season started I said we need time to pull it together

and looked at oak as a chance to pull it together oak def was garbage and we are home.

I have said it plenty of time we have no edge, 

[Cillmatic]

It's crazy that once again the Raiders serve as the wake up game, it's now clear what kind of team we are.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

3 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Those plays weren't because Crabtree used his size or some jump ball advantage; Wright literally just did not play like an NFL corner, so it wouldn't have mattered if it were Amari Cooper back there because it was touchdowns.

Of course. 

Its not just about size. 

Crabtree makes their team go. He's the red zone threat. You don't put your weakest coverage guy who is a physical and skill set mismatch on the guy who can beat you. 

Edited October 2, 2016 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK