The Good, Bad and UGLY week 4 against the Raiders

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, xxhighriser said:

Harbaugh still one of the most overrated coaches.  The accepted penalty killed us

 

Edit:  and going for 2 that early, smh

What did they gain by not going for two? They were down by two. If they kick and the Raiders score, they're down by eight again. They'd have to go for two. Literally no reason not to.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, rmw10 said:

I don't know. I mean, 5 more yards and they were back in field goal range. Didn't make sense to me. 

But its a longer FG, and Janikowski isn't exactly incredibly accurate from 50+. 

You're also a sack or negative play away from being out of FG range.

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Nobody should feel confident kicking a 60+ yard FG with any kicker. He's at best a coin flip to make that kick.

We played like we needed 5, but we really needed about 10-15. 

Making 60+ yarders in warmups with no rush and no pressure doesn't justify assuming its going to be made.

Yeah, people need to realize there's a such thing as release angles on those kicks. The longer the kick, the lower the release angle and the easier, and more likely, it is to be blocked.

[RavensPunkXVX]

Why does the offense start off so sloooow.

[BmoreBird22]

4 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

The rookie hooked Aiken's arm, but per usual, Hochuli is a bum. 

Fourth year veteran and no ref makes that call.

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, ravefan52 said:

Anyone who thought Wright was going to be good here didn't see his entire career. Very inconsistent and the highs aren't even that high. No idea why the FO gave him 13mil.

$5M guaranteed.

[Cillmatic]

This is a below average football team.

[JO_75]

Good - West and Tucker.

Bad - Defensive Play calling in the final minute. Pees folded in the final minute after having great play calling the remaining 59 minutes. Harbaugh declining the penalty and not letting them kick it was huge. Our ST has been so good at blocking lately, why not let our special teams have a chance to do so. That's a 4 point swing at the least and we win 27-24. Instead we loss 28-27.

UGLY - Marc Trestman. Fire him tomorrow and he can join Greg Roman on the unemployed list. Buffalo offense looks totally different since firing Greg Roman. Promote Marty Mornhinweg from QB Coach. He was previously a OC in Philadelphia during the McNabb years and we know how good Philly's offense was then. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Well I was told it was stupid... but Jimmy should've shadowed Crabtree. 

He scores two easy TDs with Wright in coverage on him. 

Harbs was stupid to take that penalty. The D did a great job forcing the FG and you give the Raiders a chance and of course they score the TD. 

Aiken should've made that grab too. Can't let the ball come into your body in traffic. 

We needed outside rushers to get home and they didn't. Carr had all day and he exploited it. The D did well but between penalties, a long return, and the fumble they did their job in the red zone. 

 

Considering how bad the OL was facing Irvin and Mack it could've been a heck of a lot worse. 

It is what it is. We let a winnable game get away but we're still 3-1. 

Dont overreact. This IS a good team. We played awful and still almost won. We will clean it up. We found the run game a bit and it opened up the passing game. Just too little too late. 

But there's stuff to build on. We'll be ok. We're gonna tear Washington up next week. 

[hen826957]

5 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Nobody should feel confident kicking a 60+ yard FG with any kicker. He's at best a coin flip to make that kick.

We played like we needed 5, but we really needed about 10-15. 

Making 60+ yarders in warmups with no rush and no pressure doesn't justify assuming its going to be made.

The should've run at least once or twice to get some yardage on 1st and 2nd down then pass on third and if we have too 4th. We pass it 4 straight times. 

Edited October 2, 2016 by hen826957

[Tiznut]

Bad= first half offense 

good = second half offense. 

Hope we can be more agressive out the gate and keep in on all game.  Despite the loss I feel good about this 3-1team. 

[Deflated Football]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

Fourth year veteran and no ref makes that call.

Oh that's right, Aiken isn't old enough to get a call from Hochuli 

[jimmypowder]

Trestman is a terrible play caller but he made some nice run calls in the second half . 

That being said we need a new OC. 

Edited October 2, 2016 by jimmypowder

[jazz1988]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

The biggest mistake today was Harbaugh declining that penalty, which led to a TD instead of a FG. No idea what he was thinking there. 

Seem like he was betting on his defense to make a stop and making it harder for the kicker . I don't blame him having some what strong confidence in his defense especially since they like the second overall ranked defense . 

 The defense played really good today even though they gave up some plays here and there. Hey I think Harbaugh should have declined the penalty but what if the defense had a sack or interception then it's no telling how the game would have went .

 

 

[xxhighriser]

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Pretty standard based on what I've seen other coaches do. Had no issue with taking the penalty.

What was not standard on that drive was jumping offsides on 4th and inches, as if no team in the league has ever tried to hard count their way to a first down. Wasn't even one guy... it was like 4 guys, including Suggs, the most experienced defensive player on our entire team.

 

Pretty standard where? Back Sebas up and make him kick a 45 yarder instead?  Hes one of the best in the game you dont do that with how shaky our secondary is.  Horrible call.  Going for 2 that early as well.  We get that one point we're driving to win instead of driving not to lose 

[redrum52]

6 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Really not sure I'd call that an offensive line.

Shareece Wright is absolutely horrible and I'm not sure how much more the Ravens can trot him out there as a "viable option".

Can't really blame the defense because the Raiders were gifted field position by a strip sack and that long punt return, both putting the Raiders inside the 35 of the Ravens.

I didn't like accepting that penalty because a field goal doesn't make the game super out of reach, but that was extremely undisciplined by the defense to jump offsides. You've been an elite rush defense for a while, stuffed the run all day, and even did it on that play. Just settle the nerves. 

Chris Moore's drop at the end and that low throw to Flacco really doomed that final drive, but why not give West at least one rush? He was getting over 5 YPC and the Raiders weren't going to sell out for the run given the field position.

Wright looks awful.  Defense did a tremendous job, I thought.  Accepting the penalty was dumb.  Moore needs to hit the jugs or hit the bench.  Wide open passes.  

 

HARBS still can't manage the click and I saw no point in using that TO after the 1st.  Felt we should have run more too after the first.  Something needs to be done with OL as well.  Also, the play the d was flagged for should have been a false start.  The LT or LG flinched before he even entered the neutral zone.

[Sir Spooky]

10 minutes ago, GamingRaven92 said:

they shouldve just run the ball. throwing it for 4 downs? JT has the best leg in the league and we were so close to FG range.

Hey that's Trestman's MO. Before we started giving West the rock, we were 21 passes and 7 runs. 

[BmoreBird22]

4 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I don't know. I mean, 5 more yards and they were back in field goal range. Didn't make sense to me. 

But assuming they got no gain, Janikowski is only 56% for his career, so that's almost a coin flip on whether or not he makes it.

[OUravensfan]

Terrible but whatever , this is what happens when you play close games 

[OUravensfan]

Not liking Chris Moore, looks unreliable so far 

[Edug27]

IT IS TIME to get Wright out of there. Offenses keep attacking his side. He's not a playmaker. He's not a good cover corner. Enough is enough.

Also, the offense needs to figure it out quick. Flacco was under pressure, but even when he's not, he's still not making the best decisions back there.  

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, ravefan52 said:

Anyone who thought Wright was going to be good here didn't see his entire career. Very inconsistent and the highs aren't even that high. No idea why the FO gave him 13mil.

I think you had to sign Wright based off of what he did with us last year. I'd say the bigger mistake was completely counting on him. His history is not good at all. 

[OUravensfan]

Hocoli sucks 

[I AM LEGEND]

 Bad: Flacco, O-Line, Wright, trestman, Aikan

Good: run defense, J.Smith ,SSS, Tucker

[BmoreBird22]

4 minutes ago, ravefan52 said:

Anyone who thought Wright was going to be good here didn't see his entire career. Very inconsistent and the highs aren't even that high. No idea why the FO gave him 13mil.

It's not that I expected him to be good, but on that final touchdown, his job was literally not to get beat over the top and he gets beat over the top with a huge cushion. His assignment was the deep portion of the field, so he had no reason to not just haul butt back there. Terrible.

[Cillmatic]

Aiken sucks, give Perriman his snaps.

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

The should've run at least once or twice to get some yardage on 1st and 2nd down then pass on third and if we have too 4th. We pass it 4 straight times. 

They did start loading the box more after the first run, because they know we're not going deep.

Running works, but if we only gain 2-3 yards, its wasting more clock and isn't really benefiting us. No chance of getting out of bounds.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

But its a longer FG, and Janikowski isn't exactly incredibly accurate from 50+. 

You're also a sack or negative play away from being out of FG range.

They started with great field position. The D did an amazing job getting the stop and forcing a FG. 

Imo you just don't give them another chance there. You just don't. That was a win for us by forcing the FG. Take the win and move on. 

If you trust your D then you trust the one score game and for them to keep it that way. 

[Edug27]

2 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Well I was told it was stupid... but Jimmy should've shadowed Crabtree. 

He scores two easy TDs with Wright in coverage on him. 

Thats 5 TD's in the past 3 weeks he's given up!!!!

[hen826957]

Now the worst part is that other fan base is gonna talk smack to us especially Raiders fans.