The Good, Bad and UGLY week 4 against the Raiders

[BmoreBird22]

5 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

Pees Specialy defense is still garbage. Can we now admit that dropping back a million yards and praying for a miracle doesn't work against decent teams?

Aiken showed why he's been absent.

O line.

Break down that last touchdown of Carr's for me and tell me where Pees erred.

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, AppStRavenfan said:

because you just have an unnatural vendetta against him for who knows what reason, you pounce on every opportunity to criticize him even when he doesn't even get a chance at the end of the game

 

 

Just now, Deflated Football said:

And he's still not Jerry Rice?! Ridiculous! 

he makes kenny britt look like jerry rice

[Doomville]

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

If he actually stepped into that throw, he'd probably still be laying on the ground at this very moment.

no because even though he missed the throw, he still got hit.

[JO_75]

How has Trestman not been fired by now?

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

It's all great and dandy that the Ravens ran it 26 times, but their first half was abysmal against a very weak defense. 

The Ravens ran it seven times to 30 passes in the first half, finished 2-9 on third down (think the Ravens were 3-8 in the second half, so not much improvement), and had a grand total of 6 points. That's pretty unacceptable against a defense of that caliber, which is potentially one of the worst the NFL has seen recently.

Not to mention rarely giving Hurst help off the edge in the form of a tight end or back pass blocking.

It really wasn't a good game for Trestman.

True, BUT, who gets credit for the 2nd half turnaround then? 19 carries to 22 passes in the 2nd half, which is about as balanced as it gets in the NFL these days, almost 200 yards of offense and 21 points in the 2nd half?

At the very least, it shows a gameplan adjustment, which is on the coaches. 

[Bent_Wookie]

i wonder how the players felt when Harbaugh accepted the penalty 

[AppStRavenfan]

1 minute ago, JO_75 said:

How has Trestman not been fired by now?

we're terrified of change

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, Doomville said:

no because even though he missed the throw, he still got hit.

Yes, and if he steps into the throw, he gets hit harder and probably still doesn't complete the pass. I considered it a miracle he was even able to get the ball out for an incompletion. The alternative was far worse.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

True, BUT, who gets credit for the 2nd half turnaround then? 19 carries to 22 passes in the 2nd half, which is about as balanced as it gets in the NFL these days, almost 200 yards of offense and 21 points in the 2nd half?

At the very least, it shows a gameplan adjustment, which is on the coaches. 

I'm interested to know who was behind that change because in the first half, there were drives that were literally all passes. I'd have to imagine Joe said something to him in the locker room because he was getting smacked around and you better believe Harbaugh said something after he said they needed to run the ball better (especially against arguably the worst rush defense in the league). 

I'm glad he got more balanced, but I'm not sure it was all due to Trestman deciding that's what was best.

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, Dfence4champs2052 said:

ALWAYS take the points until you can't afford to. So dumb to go for 2 on that first try. And Joe had Juice open on his right in the flat, but never looked. BAD call accepting the penalty on 4th down. Not too many pro football coaches doing that one. 

I could show you a couple at least. With a competent defense, its a no brainer in my eyes frankly. The risk for a good defense is very minimal.

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, JO_75 said:

How has Trestman not been fired by now?

to be honest...the chris moore play and we wouldnt be saying all this. I knew when he missed that gimme..

 

and no amount of jugg machine work can fix that..you either are dependable or you;re not. that was a nerves situation. He was terrified about the situation and he wasnt concentrating.

[Dfence4champs2052]

14 minutes ago, 808Blackbirds said:

How many of those shotgun toss plays has trestman ran this year and none of them worked?

And zero creativity.......he could at least run different plays from that formation. 

[Deflated Football]

2 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

How has Trestman not been fired by now?

He gets a pass because the offensive line is awful 

[Doomville]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yes, and if he steps into the throw, he gets hit harder and probably still doesn't complete the pass. I considered it a miracle he was even able to get the ball out for an incompletion. The alternative was far worse.

i doubt it but okay.

[usmccharles]

18 minutes ago, Perfekt said:

We are a luckier version of the filth and trash that we were last year.

Your going to sit here and call us names like that when we are 3-1...why are you even a fan of this team?  This is just insane.  We need to work on issues, yes.  Are we the best team in the league? no.  Big deal.  We move forward and adjust.  Some of you guys are just way over dramatic. 

[mc_red23]

1 minute ago, Bent_Wookie said:

i wonder how the players felt when Harbaugh accepted the penalty 

You can only assume that they wouldn't be happy. He talks all the time about getting the defense off the field but today he makes a call that keeps them on the field for much longer than they should have been. It's one or the other, he can't have it both ways. 

[Edug27]

7 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

why is no one on perrimans case? He was supposed to make life easier for flacco and the vets..

 

He's looking like a big pile of nothing

He's played all of 4 NFL games. Perriman is more of the future than the present. Ideally in time Perriman will take over what Mike Wallace is doing for Flacco. 

[rmcjacket23]

5 minutes ago, mc_red23 said:

You can only assume that they wouldn't be happy. He talks all the time about getting the defense off the field but today he makes a call that keeps them on the field for much longer than they should have been. It's one or the other, he can't have it both ways. 

That's on the players. They're on the field much longer than they should have been because they chose to be.

One play. That's how much longer they should have been on the field. The defensive players themselves decide how much longer they stay out there.

 

[808Blackbirds]

Is Moore getting more snaps than Perriman? 

[trevorsteadman]

Anybody else still confused about Shareece Wright lining up on Crabtree several times this game... I think double teaming Amari with a safety and Shareece and having Jimmy Smith on Crabtree would have been more efficient. These big receivers the last couple games have been killing us because they are lining up on the opposite side of #24. Wright is a solid corner but when it is 1 on 1 and the other guy has 6 or 7 inches on you that is an issue.

[mc_red23]

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

That's on the players. They're on the field much longer than they should have been because they chose to be.

One play. That's how much longer they should have been on the field. The defensive players themselves decide how much longer they stay out there.

 

Technically, this one is on Harbaugh as they did enough to get off the field.

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, mc_red23 said:

Technically, this one is on Harbaugh as they did enough to get off the field.

I wouldn't want defensive players on my team who are content with conceding 3 points.

Certainly shows weakness, not strength.

[Ravens4Real]

As much as I hate to say it, I think we are beginning to see the decline of Suggs. Age and injury are catching up to him.

Doom also didn't have a very good game. But I won't say much about him because it's his first game back. 

[BmoreBird22]

From Vic Tafur, a Raiders writer or fan.  Something...

"Raiders played zone for most of the game. One of the few plays where they did play man, Steve Smith ripped off a long touchdown."

Please, Ravens fans, complain about zone more.

[kennethyamini1989]

Joe Flacco back to being Joe Flacco as Skip Bayless would say. As of NOW (as in 4 games in to the season), Carson Wentz along with a few other 1st and 2nd year QBs are looking better than him. 

[January J]

I have no idea why Will Davis hasn't been active. I think he traditionally plays the slot but I still Would much rather had him out there than Wright. 

We did a lot of good things anbanbd once again we fought our way back in it. Just unbelievable we let them march down the feild like that right after we finally take the lead and gain the momentum.

Moore pretty much cost us the game. That would've been atleast an 8 yard gain and given tucker a shot from 60. Figures a rookie drops a ball that hits him right in the hands and Flacco catches the flack. Who knows he could've madeva guy miss and took it up the sideline...

In hindsight we should've ran the ball on third down...might have caught them off guard and west could have busted one open ....then depending on the distance you decide whether to put the game in tuckers hands or go for it. I would've let him kick it from anywhere inside of 65 and trusted him to make it. Flacco threw a dart on fourth down and hit Aiken right in the chest. Would've put the game away easily had he held on.

 

Silver lining is the running game got going AND we get Dixon back next week. 4-0 would've been nice and it stings bein that close to victory but we still fought and it could've been a lot worse. SSS shows so much heart and did everything he could to keep us in that game. Man does it sting being so close to victory like that..damned if this team doesn't give us a heart attack every. Single. Week. But yeah we cannot let wright continue to give up TD after TD ....eventually you have to bench him like we just did with Forsett.

[darklight1216]

42 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Two of those touchdowns came off of a long punt return and a fumble recovery, so...

Also, they got excellent starting position on their final drive thanks to the Mike Wallace touchdown, so...

So their play might have been excusable, but not "very good" imo.

42 minutes ago, ratedr said:

LOL Flacco has been disappointing but Carr is nothing special. The Raiders are a WC contender that will get smacked when they run into one of the traditional AFC powers (PIT/NE/DEN).

The Raiders actually have a decent record against Pittsburgh in recent years. 

[kennethyamini1989]

16 minutes ago, Edug27 said:

He's played all of 4 NFL games. Perriman is more of the future than the present. Ideally in time Perriman will take over what Mike Wallace is doing for Flacco. 

Wallace looks faster than Perriman....

[ravensdfan]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

From Vic Tafur, a Raiders writer or fan.  Something...

"Raiders played zone for most of the game. One of the few plays where they did play man, Steve Smith ripped off a long touchdown."

Please, Ravens fans, complain about zone more.

And ALL of the Raiders' points were against zone so what does that prove? lol As for your other request, why are we just breaking down the TD? Why not the entire drive which is the issue. That is what let them even get into posiition to make that play.

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, kennethyamini1989 said:

Joe Flacco back to being Joe Flacco as Skip Bayless would say. As of NOW (as in 4 games in to the season), Carson Wentz along with a few other 1st and 2nd year QBs are looking better than him. 

Cool. Good thing 4 games isn't a season. Wake me when those guys have the success he does.

Hint: it'll take several years, at a minimum.