Ronnie Stanley in walking boot

[Sami84]

11 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

No matter how you shift things around, our most shaky unit has now just become even shakier. We couldn't run the ball in the first 3 games and struggled to protect Flacco already. Some guys are going to have to step in and be solid and Zuttah is going to have to get it together. 

This is really scary. 

 

run sharp routes..play smart..know the limitations and win 1 on 1's wherever you can. this is the nfl..players will get injured..good teams know how to win through.

[jimmypowder]

Quick throws should be on  the 

agenda against the Raiders. I have little confidence without Stanley on Joe's blind side. 

Edited September 30, 2016 by jimmypowder

[757RavensFan]

1 hour ago, Deflated Football said:

Could Mack break the record for most sacks in a game on Sunday? Lol

He doesn't have a single one so far this season. 

[757RavensFan]

Stanley listed as "doubtful" on today's injury report. 

[Tiznut]

3 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't like Hurst at LT. I don't know why on Earth we did not make an upgrade at LT to begin with, makes no sense what so ever. I don't want to move too many people on the OL, it can disrupt chemistry severely and can be an awful experiment. 

I think there's two possibility's and that's if Alex Lewis is good to go. 

If Lewis can indeed play, then I think  you kick Lewis out to LT and plug in Jensen at LG

If Lewis can't go then I guess you go with Hurst at LT and pray to god he doesn't get ripped to shreds. 

 

Like drafting a LT?

 

[allblackraven]

23 minutes ago, Tiznut said:

Like drafting a LT?

 

Or two?

[PurpleCity5]

35 minutes ago, Tiznut said:

Like drafting a LT?

 

Lol that was a blunder on my part. I meant why did we not make an upgrade at back up LT.

[January J]

Hurst played LT last year against Oakland and we didn't give up a single  sack for whatever that's worth....

Still Not saying I would feel good about it.

Edited October 1, 2016 by January J

[harfordravenfan]

1 hour ago, January J said:

Hurst played LT last year against Oakland and we didn't give up a single  sack for whatever that's worth....

Still Not saying I would feel good about it.

Me either but keeping my fingers crossed and hoping for a repeat. 

[ellicottraven]

12 hours ago, rmw10 said:

It's always possible, but highly doubtful.  James Hurst just isn't good.  There's not much more that can be said than that.

I didn't know this at the time, but just found out that Hurst was the starting LT against the Raiders last year and didn't give up a sack the entire game. So, that must mean something for his confidence going against Mack and the Raiders I presume. So, if Stanley is hurting, I would rather he rest and recover than play him hurt and risk further aggravation to his injury. So, I'm comfortable with Hurst and if necessary put Gillmore in there to help with the left side pressure.

[RaineV1]

Here's the thing, Oakland has a good pass rush, but they can't cover and their DBs kinda suck at making open field tackles. Short routes can neutralize that pass rush and then give our guys the chance to make yards after the catch.

[balfan23]

20 hours ago, Sami84 said:

run sharp routes..play smart..know the limitations and win 1 on 1's wherever you can. this is the nfl..players will get injured..good teams know how to win through.

Got it ... just saying I don't like that the weakness up front is going to (further) limit our ability to run and to throw the ball deep. Yes, good teams know how to win, so hopefully we prove that's what we are by being able to survive on having our receivers out do their coverage on quick routes, have our defense hold up against a pretty solid offense ... and maybe kick a couple 50+ yard FGs. 

[balfan23]

14 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

I didn't know this at the time, but just found out that Hurst was the starting LT against the Raiders last year and didn't give up a sack the entire game. So, that must mean something for his confidence going against Mack and the Raiders I presume. So, if Stanley is hurting, I would rather he rest and recover than play him hurt and risk further aggravation to his injury. So, I'm comfortable with Hurst and if necessary put Gillmore in there to help with the left side pressure.

I do agree with this. We don't need this to become a season-long issue. 

[Sami84]

12 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Got it ... just saying I don't like that the weakness up front is going to (further) limit our ability to run and to throw the ball deep. Yes, good teams know how to win, so hopefully we prove that's what we are by being able to survive on having our receivers out do their coverage on quick routes, have our defense hold up against a pretty solid offense ... and maybe kick a couple 50+ yard FGs. 

 

 

im just saying if ronnie stanley is THE difference between us winning or losing games then we are not a playoff team.

Edited October 1, 2016 by Sami84

[ellicottraven]

10 hours ago, Sami84 said:

im just saying if ronnie stanley is THE difference between us winning or losing games then we are not a playoff team.

We'll know tomorrow by your metric if we are a playoff team or not, because I doubt Stanley plays. But, do we have your assurance that if we beat the Raiders with Hurst at LT, you'll then be an optimistic person the rest of the season? Or is that just too much to ask for?

[Filmstudy]

On 9/30/2016 at 8:41 PM, January J said:

Hurst played LT last year against Oakland and we didn't give up a single  sack for whatever that's worth....

Still Not saying I would feel good about it.

Here are my comments on Hurst from the Oakland game last year:

 

Hurst: James started at LT and had another tough day as a pass blocker. I’m going to assume many of you don’t want to read the specifics of the pressures he allowed, but in case you are a glutton for punishment and want to make sure you get your money’s worth from your Game Pass subscription, here are the time references:

Pressures: (Q1, 10:29), (Q2, 7:51), (Q2, 0:51), (Q4, 14:00), (Q4, 7:43, half charge), (Q4, 0:26)

QH: (Q3, 6:50, 2/3 charge)

Holding: (Q4, 15:00, incorrectly identified as Osemele)

The OL played much better than against Denver and allowed Flacco to be knocked down just once. There was significant supplementary pass blocking on both sides by eligible receivers–8 set blocks (where the receiver stayed in) and 5 chip blocks (where an eligible receiver initiated contact) on the left side. There were also 8 set and 4 chip blocks on the right side. Those blocks have an offensive cost.

Scoring: 70 plays, 59 blocks, 4 missed, 5.5 pressures, 2/3 QH, 1 offensive holding, 40 points (.57 per play). With an adjustment for quality of competition, that’s a D.

[Dewy101]

Everyone on this board for some reason believes Stanley is an all pro LT lol. I don't think his absence wouldn't make much of a difference. He hasn't been all that good so far

[January J]

4 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

Here are my comments on Hurst from the Oakland game last year:

 

Hurst: James started at LT and had another tough day as a pass blocker. I’m going to assume many of you don’t want to read the specifics of the pressures he allowed, but in case you are a glutton for punishment and want to make sure you get your money’s worth from your Game Pass subscription, here are the time references:

Pressures: (Q1, 10:29), (Q2, 7:51), (Q2, 0:51), (Q4, 14:00), (Q4, 7:43, half charge), (Q4, 0:26)

QH: (Q3, 6:50, 2/3 charge)

Holding: (Q4, 15:00, incorrectly identified as Osemele)

The OL played much better than against Denver and allowed Flacco to be knocked down just once. There was significant supplementary pass blocking on both sides by eligible receivers–8 set blocks (where the receiver stayed in) and 5 chip blocks (where an eligible receiver initiated contact) on the left side. There were also 8 set and 4 chip blocks on the right side. Those blocks have an offensive cost.

Scoring: 70 plays, 59 blocks, 4 missed, 5.5 pressures, 2/3 QH, 1 offensive holding, 40 points (.57 per play). With an adjustment for quality of competition, that’s a D.

Wow  thanks for the info...should've figured the "no sacks allowed" tidbit wasn't all there was to it....

I don't really remember how our run game faired last year against them( from what I do remember the running game wasn't good until we played Cleveland)  but do you have any notes or recall how well Hurst did in run blocking ? Or is that something that's kind of difficult to grade?

Edited October 2, 2016 by January J

[K-Dog]

4 hours ago, Dewy101 said:

Everyone on this board for some reason believes Stanley is an all pro LT lol. I don't think his absence wouldn't make much of a difference. He hasn't been all that good so far

?

[Deflated Football]

8 hours ago, Dewy101 said:

Everyone on this board for some reason believes Stanley is an all pro LT lol. I don't think his absence wouldn't make much of a difference. He hasn't been all that good so far

I... I don't know how to reply to such stupidity 

[flynismo]

12 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

I... I don't know how to reply to such stupidity 

Oh I do, but don't wanna get on the mods bad side so early in the day

[K-Dog]

I think todays game speaks volumes of Stanleys value. 

[PurpleCity5]

Gosh, we missed him badly. 

[flynismo]

17 hours ago, Dewy101 said:

Everyone on this board for some reason believes Stanley is an all pro LT lol. I don't think his absence wouldn't make much of a difference. He hasn't been all that good so far

You were saying?

[BmoreRavens732]

Did anyone hear of any injury update on Stanley after last week's game? I didn't hear him speak of it until he was reported during the week in a boot and not practicing. Hate how harbs has his players not speak upon things like that. He's so secretive about that kind of thing. You never get heads or tails out of him. See perriman situation last year.

[harfordravenfan]

Please, please, please get healthy fast Stanley. 

[Purple Punishment]

Today is EXACTLY why we should've deferred that injury clause for Jake Long. Hurst is absolutely abysmal

[Purple Punishment]

On October 1, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Sami84 said:

im just saying if ronnie stanley is THE difference between us winning or losing games then we are not a playoff team.

 

Slightly agree, but a solid LT makes all the difference 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

On 10/1/2016 at 11:38 AM, Sami84 said:

im just saying if ronnie stanley is THE difference between us winning or losing games then we are not a playoff team.

You're wrong.. Ronnie Stanley isn't the difference between us being a playoff team and us not being. James Hurst is...

[ALPHA]

Like they say, the best ability is availability....

 

I'll show myself out.