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Ken Dixon returned to practice today.

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That's great news. I see he and West being that Thunder and Lighting type combo even though West isn't really a bruiser, he'll serve the purpose imo.

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picked him up in fantasy just in case. stashing him for later.

I have a gut feeling that West is going to get the bulk of the carries this weekend, and kind of want to start him (assuming Dixon doesnt play).... but it scares me bc we seem committed to this rotation even though its clearly not working and hurting both guys.

I say, go in with the plan to let one of them be the lead guy the entire first half. Just stick with it and see if he gets into a groove. If so, ride him all game. If not, go to the other for the 2nd half and let him have the whole half to be the work horse. Might let one get into a groove and emerge as the best option. If not, it really cant get too much worse than its been.

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Coach John Harbaugh expressed disappointment in the Ravens' running game and said he's looking at potential changes in the backfield.

"More than changes," Harbaugh said. "It's about seeking to improve." Justin Forsett has been dreadful with just 98 scoreless yards on 31 attempts (3.2 YPC) as the "starter." Terrance West hasn't been much better with 119 scoreless yards on 33 carries (3.6 YPC), but he recorded the Ravens' longest run of the young season last week, a 15-yarder to open the third quarter. Rookie Kenneth Dixon (knee) is nearing a return and will likely be given a shot to handle a chunk of the load.
 
Source: ESPN.com
Sep 28 - 12:49 PM
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I'm going to keep my expectations low. Putting too much optimism in a Rookie RB coming off a knee sprain doesn't seem like a great bet. He certainly could ball out, but let's not do him a disservice by expecting too much. 

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Truly hope he gives us a spark. It's honestly what our offense needs most right now. Establish the run and that'll help Flacco in the passing game a ton.

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I still don't think Dixon will make difference until The Ravens offensive line figures how to block effectively .

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2 minutes ago, terps85 said:

If Forsett starts Sunday, I will literally boo until Dixon gets in the game.

Should probably wait to see if Dixon is active on Sunday first. 

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3 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Should probably wait to see if Dixon is active on Sunday first. 

If he's able to practice, I think the Ravens are in a situation where he has to be active.  He was clearly the best back in preseason and Forsett and West have been pretty bad, to say the least.

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22 minutes ago, terps85 said:

If he's able to practice, I think the Ravens are in a situation where he has to be active.  He was clearly the best back in preseason and Forsett and West have been pretty bad, to say the least.

With Ronnie Stanley in a walking boot and Lewis doing the concussion protocol, even if Dixon plays wouldn't be surprised if he struggles w/ the patchwork O-Line. 

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1 minute ago, 757RavensFan said:

With Ronnie Stanley in a walking boot and Jensen doing the concussion protocol, even if Dixon plays wouldn't be surprised if he struggles w/ the patchwork O-Line. 

It's Lewis in the protocol, but same thing. 

He ran behind a terrible line at Louisiana Tech so it's not like he hasn't done that before. I know I probably have unreasonable expectations, but he has a shot at rookie of the year. Had one of pff's highest elusive ratings last year, and will hopefully have the opportunity. 

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34 minutes ago, terps85 said:

It's Lewis in the protocol, but same thing. 

He ran behind a terrible line at Louisiana Tech so it's not like he hasn't done that before. I know I probably have unreasonable expectations, but he has a shot at rookie of the year. Had one of pff's highest elusive ratings last year, and will hopefully have the opportunity. 

Thx!

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Kenneth Dixon (knee) is targeting a Week 5 return.

RapSheet riled up the masses with a tweet earlier Wednesday morning that Dixon was returning to practice Wednesday, but he didn't do much of anything besides working out by himself on a side field. 

Should be an interesting week 5 if Dixon does return. That would mean Waller and Dixon return at the same time. 

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1 hour ago, terps85 said:

It's Lewis in the protocol, but same thing. 

He ran behind a terrible line at Louisiana Tech so it's not like he hasn't done that before. I know I probably have unreasonable expectations, but he has a shot at rookie of the year. Had one of pff's highest elusive ratings last year, and will hopefully have the opportunity. 

The problem is that he is coming off back to back injuries to the same knee.. I know a lot of us fans have high expectations for the guy but im worried if we rush him back to soon that he will end up causing more damage and thats the last thing we want for our franchise back. I wouldnt bring him back until next week at the earliest and thats just for a couple series. Its a long season and fresh legs are a great thing to have at the end of the year.  Our problem is more of the very predictive play calling that gives our guys no chance before the snap, Im guessing most of our negative yardage is from our 1st down runs every single time.

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9 minutes ago, CaliRavenFan said:

The problem is that he is coming off back to back injuries to the same knee.. I know a lot of us fans have high expectations for the guy but im worried if we rush him back to soon that he will end up causing more damage and thats the last thing we want for our franchise back. I wouldnt bring him back until next week at the earliest and thats just for a couple series. Its a long season and fresh legs are a great thing to have at the end of the year.  Our problem is more of the very predictive play calling that gives our guys no chance before the snap, Im guessing most of our negative yardage is from our 1st down runs every single time.

Yeah I was assuming he would be 100% in my previous posts because rushing him back would be a bad idea. In all likelihood, we'll see something similar to what Jacksonville did with Ivory last week. 

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1 hour ago, terps85 said:

If he's able to practice, I think the Ravens are in a situation where he has to be active.  He was clearly the best back in preseason and Forsett and West have been pretty bad, to say the least.

I believe West starts and sees most of the workload. Forsett clearly hasn't been running effectively and hasn't shaken a defender all season. We will only start 2 rb's along with Juice per game, so West needs to prove his worth this week, as Dixon takes the field in week 5. 

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9 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

Should be an interesting week 5 if Dixon does return. That would mean Waller and Dixon return at the same time. 

Damn Rapoport raining on our parade. I'm still going to hold out hope that Dixon is a surprise active for this week. 

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10 hours ago, terps85 said:

It's Lewis in the protocol, but same thing. 

He ran behind a terrible line at Louisiana Tech so it's not like he hasn't done that before. I know I probably have unreasonable expectations, but he has a shot at rookie of the year. Had one of pff's highest elusive ratings last year, and will hopefully have the opportunity. 

He would have to have a helluva 11 or 12 game performance to pull off OROTY since he's gonna miss at least 4 games. 

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8 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

He would have to have a helluva 11 or 12 game performance to pull off OROTY since he's gonna miss at least 4 games. 

Yeah, he won't get it over Zeke or Wentz if they stay healthy all year, but Dixon has a legitimate shot at third lol. Him and Will Fuller will be up there. 

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ESPN Ravens reporter Jamison Hensley expects rookie RB Kenneth Dixon (knee, doubtful) to be "eased back into the mix."
Dixon will not play this week, and he will likely be limited even if he returns against Washington Week 5. Once he is healthy, Dixon should be in something of a timeshare with Terrance West and perhaps Justin Forsett. Dixon is a good bench stash in deeper formats, but he will likely spend most if not all of the season in a committee
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On 9/28/2016 at 1:51 PM, jazz1988 said:

I still don't think Dixon will make difference until The Ravens offensive line figures how to block effectively .

And that's the difference between backs like Forsett and Dixon.  Dixon often makes the first man miss so those no gainers will look like 2 yards and 2 yarders like 5.  If he's healthy of course we will still see a difference.  Don't forget the big play factor as well.

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14 minutes ago, xxhighriser said:

And that's the difference between backs like Forsett and Dixon.  Dixon often makes the first man miss so those no gainers will look like 2 yards and 2 yarders like 5.  If he's healthy of course we will still see a difference.  Don't forget the big play factor as well.

Couldn't agree more. Right now Forsett isn't making any one miss at all. Pretty much getting all his yards before contact. The leaders for that stat are usually around 3, which is pretty much what Forsett is averaging per carry. Now I'm not sure what Forsett is averaging before contact this year, so this is just a theory. 

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1 hour ago, xxhighriser said:

And that's the difference between backs like Forsett and Dixon.  Dixon often makes the first man miss so those no gainers will look like 2 yards and 2 yarders like 5.  If he's healthy of course we will still see a difference.  Don't forget the big play factor as well.

I'm not  denying that Dixon is a special back and I'm sure he will help in some way but the problem with The Ravens run game right now  isn't because  they need a running back to make defenders miss on a consistent basis but instead it's because their running game has been predictable .

 

I see alot of inside runs being called which any defense can figure out and stop even against special backs. I barely see any out side runs being used  that will take advantage of the speed that Borg  Forsett and Dixon have . Terrance West is probably  more of of power running back than both  Forsett and Dixon so asking him to get yards consistently on inside runs make more sense than asking a guy like Forsett to do it.

 The Ravens need to be less predictable with their running plays and if some how Dixon make plays regardless on how predictable Trestman run plays have been then The Ravens coaches have to bet on Dixon staying healthy so their rushing attack can have some life .

 

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2 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

I'm not  denying that Dixon is a special back and I'm sure he will help in some way but the problem with The Ravens run game right now  isn't because  they need a running back to make defenders miss on a consistent basis but instead it's because their running game has been predictable .

 

I see alot of inside runs being called which any defense can figure out and stop even against special backs. I barely see any out side runs being used  that will take advantage of the speed that Borg  Forsett and Dixon have . Terrance West is probably  more of of power running back than both  Forsett and Dixon so asking him to get yards consistently on inside runs make more sense than asking a guy like Forsett to do it.

 The Ravens need to be less predictable with their running plays and if some how Dixon make plays regardless on how predictable Trestman run plays have been then The Ravens coaches have to bet on Dixon staying healthy so their rushing attack can have some life .

 

Agreed. Less predictability in the run game offensive scheme combined with Dixon could change the attack.

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