[News] The Breakdown: Eisenberg's Five Thoughts vs. Jacksonville Jaguars

[Fastynart]

We are3 3-0 largely because we have played bad teams. Ok, the defense is improved, but the offense, oh the offense, still stinks. Even worse than last year, they can't run at all. The line has been nothing short of terrible. If we had played the big boys instead of the also-rans, we would not be 3-0. I thought the Steelers were the team to beat until I saw the Eagles whitewash them. We play both. To have a chance against either, the offense has to start scoring points and making first downs. Trestman's game plan is horrible. We need three yards for a first down and Joe throws the pass three yards behind the line of scrimmage. What the heck is that? Better to throw for the first down and incomplete than keep throwing short of it. They have done that same crap in all three games. Perriman stinks. He is the offensive version of Elam. Both wasted first round draft picks. He drops passes every game. Anyone who watched him in college saw this. Why didn't the Ravens?

[bigcatfrank1]

Well we can probably expect the bad press again, which will be unjustified because most picked the Ravens to lose this game. Here is what should be written " Ravens go on the road to play a reasonably equal opponent as many pundits say and come out with a tough win. Joe doesn't need to throw those 2 picks if Wallace comes down with the end zone pass that was right in his hands. The Ravens meet an opponent who again plays "UP" to a compettitve level and manage a win with critical play defense, great special teams, a great kicker, a calm leader and late drives by a talented offense with weapons.

[hen826957]

We are3 3-0 largely because we have played bad teams. Ok, the defense is improved, but the offense, oh the offense, still stinks. Even worse than last year, they can't run at all. The line has been nothing short of terrible. If we had played the big boys instead of the also-rans, we would not be 3-0. I thought the Steelers were the team to beat until I saw the Eagles whitewash them. We play both. To have a chance against either, the offense has to start scoring points and making first downs. Trestman's game plan is horrible. We need three yards for a first down and Joe throws the pass three yards behind the line of scrimmage. What the heck is that? Better to throw for the first down and incomplete than keep throwing short of it. They have done that same crap in all three games. Perriman stinks. He is the offensive version of Elam. Both wasted first round draft picks. He drops passes every game. Anyone who watched him in college saw this. Why didn't the Ravens?

I don't think you like being 3-0 because we play the teams on our schedule. It's not our fault we played the Bills, Browns, or Jaguars. But the thing is that everyone even. There is not one dominant team this year that it was years past. Stop being negative and enjoy the win. If we beat the Raiders and Skins and become 5-0 are you gonna stay because of the schedule?

[hen826957]

That unsportsmanlike penalty at the end of the first half when Tucker made that field made us even when they won the field goal last year with a face mask penalty that even didn't snap the ball in time.

[Halshayeji]

45 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

I don't think you like being 3-0 because we play the teams on our schedule. It's not our fault we played the Bills, Browns, or Jaguars. But the thing is that everyone even. There is not one dominant team this year that it was years past. Stop being negative and enjoy the win. If we beat the Raiders and Skins and become 5-0 are you gonna stay because of the schedule?

The previous 2 years I personally went on a rout because we were handed a raw schedule. This year we start with an easy schedule and I'm glad we're taking advantage of it. If we can start 5-0 or even 4-1 then we have room to drop a few close games later on when it gets tougher.

that said, I'm also not naive to think we even remotely have a chance to continue winning with such an inconsistant offense. We need to get better if we're gonna do some real damage. Until then, il gladly walk around undefeated lol

[playlikeawhat]

Three AFC teams are 3-0...and the Ravens are one of them! Who'd a thunk it?

So the Ravens go from being the "...worst 2-0 team ..." (per the NFL Network) to now being the "...worst 3-0 team..."?

NFL Network analysts are among the many clowns who praise overrated AFC darlings for beating "weak" competition. It's best that their standard of winning is taken as anything but seriously.

[hen826957]

By me watching the replay vs the Jaguars on my DVR, I actually do love the Jaguars uniforms by the way. LOL l love the pick from Mosley and Orr. ?

Edited September 26, 2016 by hen826957

[cec327]

We are3 3-0 largely because we have played bad teams. Ok, the defense is improved, but the offense, oh the offense, still stinks. Even worse than last year, they can't run at all. The line has been nothing short of terrible. If we had played the big boys instead of the also-rans, we would not be 3-0. I thought the Steelers were the team to beat until I saw the Eagles whitewash them. We play both. To have a chance against either, the offense has to start scoring points and making first downs. Trestman's game plan is horrible. We need three yards for a first down and Joe throws the pass three yards behind the line of scrimmage. What the heck is that? Better to throw for the first down and incomplete than keep throwing short of it. They have done that same crap in all three games. Perriman stinks. He is the offensive version of Elam. Both wasted first round draft picks. He drops passes every game. Anyone who watched him in college saw this. Why didn't the Ravens?

Better 3-0 than 0-3 -- even with the problems to which you referred.

[law215]

1. You got good Joe and bad Joe in the same game. There was a time in the game when Joe was smoking…but his receivers dropped balls and lineman were called for penalties. When they did not take advantage of good Joe, eventually the turnovers, in accurate throws, and the offense got out of sync. Joe has to be good for 4 quarters.

2. Defense has improved since last year. Mosley does not look lost in coverage, the pass rush is present, and they are getting turnovers. No matter the opponents, last year they were not making plays.


3. Naysayers will tell you the Ravens have not beaten anybody. They are the worst 3-0 team. Blah Blah blah blah. It is too early to know who the good or bad teams are THIS season.

That terrible Bills team the Ravens barely beat, whipped the Cardinals that many predicted to go to the Super bowl.

That ultimate Steelers offense only put up 3 points against the eagles. A rookie hung 34 points on that ‘improved’ defense.

4. Tucker is money. Revenge is giving him a second chance. Perfect

5. There is room for improvement- starting faster, playing for 4 quarters, better results in the run game, stop turning over the football. Yet they are 3-0

[verified]

These were all the games we lost last season. Also, perriman is showing all of what people said about him to be true around the draft that he just has inconsistant hands. Sharrecce wright is kyle arrington reincarnated and thats sad. Amarri cooper is going to have a field day because neither of our top 2 corners can really cover their both suspect.

[verified]

Cant wait until we get kennith dixon back he should improve our run game. Terrance west hasent been what I thought he was going to be and justin forsett is reminding me of ray rices last year here when he wasnt getting any yards. Also, dumervill should be back next week and he will def help our pass rush, perriman will only get better its all up hill from here ravens 3-0 baby just cause we dont win by 2 TDs every week doesnt mean wear not a good team go ravens

[jdynamite]

From the replays and live footage the deflected INT throw to Pitta was thrown well behind pitta whom had plenty of space in front of him inside. I'm not sure how Eisenberg doesn't fault Flacco on that pass, it was so far behind Pitta that Pitta looked dumbfounded by it.  Unless pitta ran an incorrect route or miscommunication on option route maybe. 

 

Watching it again & again the ball is 3 to 4 yards behind Pitta, from one angle Maxx where max can be seen, the ball is so far behind Pitta I'm not sure what made Ramsey dive to bat the ball at all.   

 

Makes me wonder if it was a throwaway that Ramsey happen to deflect into an int. 

[ravens4life86]

5 Thoughts...

1) Defense, Defense, Defense....
4 Sacks in crunch time (2 big ones from sizzle,Jernigan 1, Guy another)
3 big turnovers.
Besides Wright getting picked on, good coverage and tackling all day, run defense too.

2)Special Teams, Blunders&Big plays..
Tucker, never taken for granted.,but best Kicker in NFL again with huge day&GW FG
Blocked FG
Muffed punt by Hester&Bad kick coverage allowed long return by Greene

3) Oline,Protection&Run game..
Couple more penalties for holding on Yanda&Stanley
I dont know if they are emphasizing "Holding" this year or something but Yanda has been called for more penalties..like 1 a game, then he has his entire career. Its bogus. Dudes best G in NFL.
Run game..still not pleased Forsett looks old and slow like father time is catching up. 7 for 20, 3 weeks now he hasnt looked good.
West 10 for 45, thats a 4.5 avg real good atleast. Give him majority carries 15-20 maybe he can get 100 yrds rushing...because Dixon is back soon if not this week and RB situation even more crowded.
Pass pro was pretty solid..Zuttah is the weakest link on the oline

4)Passing attack&scoring
Enough of this checkdown city, theres a reason Joe had 21 straight completions cause everything was a dumpoff.
Take more shots, we need more TDs.

5)Eliminate turnovers on offense&ST

[jravens1313]

From the replays and live footage the deflected INT throw to Pitta was thrown well behind pitta whom had plenty of space in front of him inside. I'm not sure how Eisenberg doesn't fault Flacco on that pass, it was so far behind Pitta that Pitta looked dumbfounded by it.  Unless pitta ran an incorrect route or miscommunication on option route maybe. 

 

Watching it again & again the ball is 3 to 4 yards behind Pitta, from one angle Maxx where max can be seen, the ball is so far behind Pitta I'm not sure what made Ramsey dive to bat the ball at all.   

 

Makes me wonder if it was a throwaway that Ramsey happen to deflect into an int. 

Pitta was wide open inside. It was an inaccurate throw by Flacco that caused the INT for sure.

[jravens1313]

Defense and Special Teams won another game for Baltimore. Trestman once again can't finish a team off. We need Dixon to help our offense finish drives with TDs. I heard an announcer say, "when you have a great defense you are in every game." Our defense is why we are 3-0 great job Ozzie and Pees!

[RaRaRavens]

Biggest concern after 3 weeks is the absolute nonexistence of anything that would even remotely resemble a running game. Stat line are misleading at times, non of our backs is averaging 3+ yards for most of 3 quarters. They start gaining some yards only in the last minutes, when opposing defenses are beat up.

And I'm still putting it on Trestman. The speed at which he abandons the run game is astonishing. After the first, unsuccessful running play he went passes for like 5-6 next plays. Then again 1 run play and 7-8 passes. No wonder the O-line can't get any rhythm like that. And when he does call a running play it's so painfully obvious, because basically the only time a RB lines up behind Flacco, it's a run.

Where is the I-form? Or even a lead blocker? Where is Juice? Flacco is not the type of QB who can shoulder an entire game all game long every game. But we've seen with Kubiak what he can be, if he has a strong running game. So it begs the question, is Trestman ignorant, purposefully trying to sabotage the running game, or just plain dumb??

 

At any rate, we'll start losing big soon against better teams, if Trestman doesn't get his head out of his butt with is idiotic playbook. Dixon isn't going to magically fix anything if the game plan remains the same. 

Edited September 26, 2016 by RaRaRavens

[Gonzo]

<blockquote> Camp got hurt putting on his jersey. blockquote\>

 

its a real shame, campanaro showed a lot of promise

[BigUgly]

Flacco had a great second quarter, then he stopped stepping into his throws or step up in the pocket in the third and fourth quarters. The result was off-target throws. I think Trestman needs to add in some roll-out pass plays to help out the O-Line, and change up the look. I'm also convinced the running game woes have more to do with scheme than with a lack of talent.

[FloridalovesRavens]

These were all the games we lost last season. Also, perriman is showing all of what people said about him to be true around the draft that he just has inconsistant hands. Sharrecce wright is kyle arrington reincarnated and thats sad. Amarri cooper is going to have a field day because neither of our top 2 corners can really cover their both suspect.

Do you have a crystal ball? The game has not been played yet.

[Rav'n Maniac]

Flacco had a great second quarter, then he stopped stepping into his throws or step up in the pocket in the third and fourth quarters. The result was off-target throws. I think Trestman needs to add in some roll-out pass plays to help out the O-Line, and change up the look. I'm also convinced the running game woes have more to do with scheme than with a lack of talent.

I feel it's a combination of scheme and talent. For the 1st time this season, we ran a "I" formation with Flacco under center. Result was West got 15 yds, our longest run so far. I'm not sure if we used it again the rest of the game though.

[The Greek]

trestman is beginning to resemble cameron. harbs needs to bark at him

[Edug27]

12 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

I wouldn't even mind being the worst 4-0 team. 

Or the worst super bowl champion. 

[VermontRaven]

10 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

i got one thought,deven hester hasn't been worth the extra roster spot,should of went to campanaro,returner/receiver.

Today he wasn't for sure, but last week he looked pretty darn good.  Give him a little more of a chance.  If he fumbles again, then we can start talking about whether he should keep his roster spot.

[RavenSwag]

Another typical Ravens game comes down to the wire. We tend to make things interesting from week to week but this is who they are so fans make sure you have your oxygen tank at all times because these guys will drive you crazy at times but damn I love my team.

[J.O.14]

I like the way our defense looks for the most part. We are a lot better than last year, and that is without our best pass rusher so far. I'm excited to see what we can do against a pretty good offense this week in the Raiders.

Offensively, our run game is tough to watch. Honestly, we can beat the teams we have played without a run game, but the teams we play later on, that isn't gonna work. We have got to get better at running the football. I hope Dixon can provide a little spark, because Flacco can't continuously carry our offense like he has been.

I'm happy to be 3-0. A lot better than last year, but a lot of things to get better at. It is true that we are 3-0, and haven't played close to our best football. We are talented, and will continue to improve. Yeah we have beat teams who are a combined 1-8, but its not easy winning on the road against any NFL team. The Raiders will be a good test, and will let us know more about our football team.

[eek]

From the replays and live footage the deflected INT throw to Pitta was thrown well behind pitta whom had plenty of space in front of him inside. I'm not sure how Eisenberg doesn't fault Flacco on that pass, it was so far behind Pitta that Pitta looked dumbfounded by it.  Unless pitta ran an incorrect route or miscommunication on option route maybe. 

 

Watching it again & again the ball is 3 to 4 yards behind Pitta, from one angle Maxx where max can be seen, the ball is so far behind Pitta I'm not sure what made Ramsey dive to bat the ball at all.   

 

Makes me wonder if it was a throwaway that Ramsey happen to deflect into an int. 

watch the play again, joe thru that ball well before pitta broke on the route, it was just a miscommunication on the play

[Raven1995]

trestman is beginning to resemble cameron. harbs needs to bark at him

I woke up this morning and thought the same thing. 2012 all over again, except we don't have an offensive Guru, Caldwell, upstairs in a sky box.

[The Mom Gene]

trestman is beginning to resemble cameron. harbs needs to bark at him

I think Joe is doing some of that. We saw that last week.

[The Mom Gene]

These were all the games we lost last season. Also, perriman is showing all of what people said about him to be true around the draft that he just has inconsistant hands. Sharrecce wright is kyle arrington reincarnated and thats sad. Amarri cooper is going to have a field day because neither of our top 2 corners can really cover their both suspect.

Nope. Disagree. Robinson is a beast and Shareece did a decent job covering him. Did he get juked a time or two? Yes, but there isn't a corner out there that won't against him. Cooper is really a different kind of receiver than Robinson.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Still getting the bugs out on Offense and the run game just has to take a backseat for now because my man Joe is getting hotter and hotter! Keep slinging that Rock! One proud Raven over here WE THE BEST!