Next Up: Ravens vs Oakland Raiders at M&T Bank Stadium

[BmoreBird22]

32 minutes ago, Raider9175 said:

The Raiders special team units is no joke either.  They always had the kicking game( punter and kicker).  Where they really upgraded is there coverage teams unit.   ( Ex Raven Trawick, Daren Bates, Taiwan Jones, and rookie Wr Johnny Holton.

I thought I saw Trawick got cut?

[Sami84]

Just now, wizard1 said:

Oh I'm not saying one bad thing about our defense. It's has played lights out and getting Eric Weddle is a huge boost for this team. I love our D so far.

then stop acting like oakland are world beaters..they arent..sure they could win..i can see an arguement both ways but this isn't NE 2007..if no one knew any better you'd probably convice a lot of people otherwise with the way you talk about them!

[Drew P]

17 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

Exactly. They could've been 1-2. 

At the end of the TEN game there were 2 BS calls in the endzone both in OAK's favor. It wasnt for the win but in all likelihood at least for the tying score.

[Sami84]

if you want my opinon i think these are two evenly matched teams..same standard. It can go either way..we were unlucky last year not to have won at their place. both teams have improved since.

[hen826957]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I thought I saw Trawick got cut?

I think he got cut or release (don't know which) from the Ravens and now playing special teams for the Raiders. I wish he was cut so the Ravens can resign him. He's a good special teamer. Asa Jackson was good too at special teams and is a free agent but he gets penalized too much. He knows how to block kicks.

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

if you want my opinon i think these are two evenly matched teams..same standard. It can go either way..we were unlucky last year not to have won at their place. both teams have improved since.

I think Oakland isn't that much different from Jacksonville in terms of skill sets and what they do well. Oakland has a bit better offense/offensive line, whereas Jacksonville has a better defense in my estimation.

If that's the case, you get a pretty average team in my estimation, traveling West coast to East (for the second straight week) playing in a 10am WC game. 

I'd take the home team to win in this spot practically all of the time.

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

I think he got cut or release (don't know which) from the Ravens and now playing special teams for the Raiders. I wish he was cut so the Ravens can resign him. He's a good special teamer. Asa Jackson was good too at special teams and is a free agent but he gets penalized too much. He knows how to block kicks.

I know he was/is on the Raiders, but I thought he got cut from the Raiders. I guess not.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

I know he was/is on the Raiders, but I thought he got cut from the Raiders. I guess not.

He's on their roster. Has played 67 snaps, entirely as a ST player. Has not played any defensive snaps for them yet.

[hen826957]

4 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

then stop acting like oakland are world beaters..they arent..sure they could win..i can see an arguement both ways but this isn't NE 2007..if no one knew any better you'd probably convice a lot of people otherwise with the way you talk about them!

Exactly. This NFL season everybody's even. There is no dominant team that it was in years past. NFL right now is not as physical as it use to be. Past NFL teams would've destroy present NFL teams. 

[wizard1]

Let's not forget KO which is a huge part of why that offense is so good right now.

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

He's on their roster. Has played 67 snaps, entirely as a ST player. Has not played any defensive snaps for them yet.

Yep, entirely right.

Not sure where I saw he got cut/was getting cut because that's completely not true.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, wizard1 said:

Let's not forget KO which is a huge part of why that offense is so good right now.

Among about a half dozen other reasons...

[Sami84]

4 minutes ago, wizard1 said:

Let's not forget KO which is a huge part of why that offense is so good right now.

poor mans evan mathis..ok

 

lets move on..

[Sami84]

btw the star of that team is carr. Hes the real deal..great QB. Osemele is a very good gaurd..but wizard he aint steve hutchinson or evan mathis. He's not unbeatable..

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, Sami84 said:

btw the star of that team is carr. Hes the real deal..great QB. Osemele is a very good gaurd..but wizard he aint steve hutchinson or evan mathis. He's not unbeatable..

I wonder how the Browns feel having passed on Carr and then Wentz...

[wizard1]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I wonder how the Browns feel having passed on Carr and then Wentz...

Not to mention they passed on Roethlisburger too.

[wizard1]

3 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

btw the star of that team is carr. Hes the real deal..great QB. Osemele is a very good gaurd..but wizard he aint steve hutchinson or evan mathis. He's not unbeatable..

He is way better than what we got in Stanley. That  guy will take years to develop..

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, wizard1 said:

He is way better than what we got in Stanley. That  guy will take years to develop..

urrr no..

 

stanley has been great .he was injured in the last game and it showed. Stanley will ( with good health) be a pro bowl player . KO is good..but again you're overrating him.

[Sami84]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

Trophy hunting is really uncool to me, too, but I just find it really funny that the Browns said he wouldn't be a top 20 QB. Probably felt the same way about Carr.

lets wait a bit before wentz is crowned..it might be a honeymoon period

 

carr is the real deal though..yeah.browns..

 

dont they have 4000 picks next year too?

[BmoreBird22]

39 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

lets wait a bit before wentz is crowned..it might be a honeymoon period

 

carr is the real deal though..yeah.browns..

 

dont they have 4000 picks next year too?

Even if he is only good this year, it beats Kessler. And he has all the tools to be very good. My major concern was the jump in talent, but he seems to be doing okay.

They should have a ton of picks. 

[Ravensfan23]

2 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yeah Aiken's in a tough spot.

Through 3 weeks, he technically has the 3rd highest snap count among WRs... he's actually gotten more offensive snaps than Perriman. But he's not being targeted at all basically...4 targets in 3 games.

Hard to see him being very valuable to the offense unless a Steve Smith injury happens. Frankly, even if like Wallace were to get hurt, you would think Perriman/Moore would inherit most of those snaps instead.

Yeah and it sucks because he's been a hard worker and reliable for 2+ years. He's developed well and just when it seems he'll get his shot to show the NFL he's someone to watch for, SSS and Pitta return to the team healthy. 

But with that said its the NFL and injuries happen, especially late in the season and in this division. Aiken may just get another opportunity this year and based on his track record he'll be ready.

 

[Drew P]

1 hour ago, wizard1 said:

Let's not forget KO which is a huge part of why that offense is so good right now.

They have played teams that are perennial defensive bottom feeders

[The Raven]

1 hour ago, Sami84 said:

btw the star of that team is carr. Hes the real deal..great QB. Osemele is a very good gaurd..but wizard he aint steve hutchinson or evan mathis. He's not unbeatable..

So true. Derek Carr is going to be the best QB of the "next generation."

[Sami84]

i'd also like to see tavon on amari cooper..

maybe im putting too much on the plate for a rookie..but i think he can stick with cooper as long as the pass rush doesnt allow cooper the time to break his routes..thats where he and carr are lethal

[Cillmatic]

Just now, Sami84 said:

i'd also like to see tavon on amari cooper..

maybe im putting too much on the plate for a rookie..but i think he can stick with cooper as long as the pass rush doesnt allow cooper the time to break his routes..thats where he and carr are lethal

That's quite a size difference.

[Sami84]

Just now, Cillmatic said:

That's quite a size difference.

remember antoine winfield? okay maybe im jumping the gun comparing the two..but there are some similarties..he could stick to guys and contest who were bigger.

 

just saying..

[usmccharles]

7 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

i'd also like to see tavon on amari cooper..

maybe im putting too much on the plate for a rookie..but i think he can stick with cooper as long as the pass rush doesnt allow cooper the time to break his routes..thats where he and carr are lethal

I think wright is better suited for Cooper. 

Sidenote, this will be my last post for a minute, leaving to go to Mexico for a soccer game. 

Edited September 30, 2016 by usmccharles

[OUravensfan]

Stanley doubtful 

[Sami84]

2 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

Stanley doubtful 

unless hurst is penciled in by default a line of

Lewis,Jensen.Zuttah,Yanda,Wagner might be at hand..

 

obviously thats if lewis is given the all clear from the protocol and from what i've seen that tends to be a ''no'' for the first week.

Edited September 30, 2016 by Sami84

[Cillmatic]

Lol, I forgot that Lewis was still a question mark, we could be screwed.