The Good, The Bad and the Awful against the Jags

[balfan23]

The Good: I mean 3-0. I know ... the competition hasn't been stiff and the wins haven't been pretty .... but winning pretty or winning ugly .. 3-0 is what we would be. Of course, gotta throw props to JT. For us the just settle in with the attitude that a 50+ yard FG is no problem is a luxury few teams have. The D getting timely turnovers and another blocked kick that changed the game ... that's amazing. 

The Bad: I've said muffed punts lose games. It almost did here and it was from a guy brought in for the primary reason that he won't let that happen, but he did. 

The Ugly: The offensive line play. Aside from the anemic run game being partly their fault .... The penalties that we committed when attempting to start drives late in the game and allowing heavy pressure on Flacco at key times in the game nearly killed us. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Man... if everyone was asked preseason if they'd take a 3-0 start it would have been emphatic "yes" across the board. Now we're here and all anyone wants to do is point out the negatives. 

This is the NFL. Every week is a struggle. Occasional blowouts happen but 2/3's or more of the games are usually close. 

The Bills torched the Cardinals today. Ran em over. But I thought our 2-0 was meaningless bc the Bills were awful???

3-0 doesn't happen by accident. Bad teams just don't do it.  The Bills are a good team. Jacksonville is a good team. 

The only good is that we won the game?? Yet there's a laundry list of bad and awful???

 

just glad I don't live my fandom that way. There are things that need improving, sure. And they will. But we're 3-0 with 2 wins against good teams. 

The good: Tucker is clutch. Flacco got on a serious roll with 21 straight completions. Flacco showed his knee is fine with 2 good runs, one for TD.

ST and D creating turnovers at crucial times. Another blocked kick and I think we've surpassed our INT total from last year already. 

Last week it was all complaints about the D on the final drive. Well this week we get the huge sack and an INT to win the game. What was that about Pees and his "prevent" D?

Were getting production across the board from pass catchers. Still some missed opportunities but they'll come. Good to know thought that we have 8-9 guys that can be counted on when a play is needed. 

Pass rush closing the game completely out. Jernigan and Suggs came up big. 

Our inside LBs played amazing. Both against the run and in coverage - including a CORREA SIGHTING!! Great coverage, great read.... and if he comes down with that it's a pick 6. Great to see him come in and make a big play though. 

Tavon Young with a great INT and he's been incredible on ST. That tackle for no return when he was being held was a thing of beauty. 

The play we're getting from rookies and young players is great. Awesome in the present but amazing for the future. 

We're 3-0 and in first place. Bad things happen. Mistakes happen. The run game is my only real concern. Nothing else has really been a trend. 

And im giving til the bye to make any real judgements on what we truly are as a team. But I know what we're not -- and that's a bad team. I bet there's more complaining, and negative comments here than on the Jags boards. 

[cobrajet]

6 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

With 9/11 starters either being rookies, 1st year FA, or returning from season ending injury and therefore playing together for the first time?? Yea.

And it's the first year in a new offense. Trestman tried to run Kubiaks offense last year to make the transition easy. Now he's running his. 9/11 guys playing together for the first time and everyone is a relatively new offense. 

Yes. It does take more than 3 games to get into a groove. 

Our run game is just not very good and I feel that in the second half, drives were stalled because Trestman tried to stick with it. That was really my only complaint today. I don't know if the Jags have a good run defense, but if things don't improve in the run game, and it is that bad in the first half of games then we need to spread them out and let Joe take over in the second half until we need to run the clock down at the end.

[jimmypowder]

6 minutes ago, rdotc said:

Have we played any of those teams yet?

Can't speculate as to what would happen. But hey... doom and gloom after a win is super! Yay!

I'm glad for the win but I'm grounded in reality . 

We will not beat Cincy, New England , Pittsburg , probably not Oakland playing like this . 

We have a easy schedule due to our record last year so that helps . 

[pitchblack_20]

5 minutes ago, sflegend89 said:

Even at 3-0 we aren't playing anywhere near our potential. Specifically the offense, with tbe weapons we have in the passing game we should be roasting and toasting teams through the air.

it's hard when you can't run the ball

[usmccharles]

Good: Young players looking good.  I like what i see from Young and Jernigan.  Once we get Doom back, i think we will see a very mean pass rush, we are about a half a second way on sacks on the times we get pressure.  I liked seeing KC going at it and making plays.

Bad: Drops. Drops. From key players.  Also, Joe had some misscomunications with SSr and Pitta, that shouldnt happen with them. 

Awful: The run.  Its so bad.  Forsett just looks terrible, he runs into a tackler, sits there and dances then gets brought down.  I dont see any benefit of him being here now.  I was dead wrong on this call, i thought he could come back and be huge for us.  I wont put it on the oline because when has space he is indecisive and sluggish.

 

But we are 3-0 while we are still trying to figure ourselves out, much better than other record at the moment.  Since we playing this lethargic on offense, i view it as a good sign in a way, just means we have a lot of room to improve and get better. 

 

Edited September 25, 2016 by usmccharles

[rdotc]

1 minute ago, jimmypowder said:

I'm glad for the win but I'm grounded in reality . 

We will not beat Cincy, New England , Pittsburg , probably not Oakland playing like this . 

We have a easy schedule due to our record last year so that helps . 

Key words: "like this"

 

Who says we don't play better against Oakland when we play them?

[jimmypowder]

Just now, pitchblack_20 said:

it's hard when you can't run the ball

+100000

[terps85]

I just do not understand the hate for Trestman at all.  Perriman drops a first down one drive and someone in the game thread blamed Trestman.  Wallace dropped a TD on an awesome throw by Flacco and it was all Trestman's fault.  Wagner gets beat, Fowler hits Flacco's arm on the pick -Trestman's fault.  Forsett and West are the worst running back tandem in the league (Dixon coming back soon hopefully!), but it's Trestman's fault we can't run the ball.  I just do not get this board's infatuation with blaming coordinators whenever anything goes wrong.

 

 

Edited September 25, 2016 by terps85

[Bandwagon]

1 minute ago, terps85 said:

I just do not understand the hate for Trestman at all.  Perriman drops a first down one drive and someone in the game thread blamed Trestman.  Wallace dropped a TD on an AWESOME throw by Flacco and it was all Trestman's fault.  Wagner gets beat, Fowler hits Flacco's arm on the pick -Trestman's fault.  Forsett and West are the WORST running back tandem in the league (Dixon coming back soon hopefully!), but it's Trestman's fault we can't run the ball.  I just do not get this board's infatuation with blaming coordinators whenever ANYTHING goes wrong.

 

 

guess you dont know what play calling is

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, terps85 said:

I just do not understand the hate for Trestman at all.  Perriman drops a first down one drive and someone in the game thread blamed Trestman.  Wallace dropped a TD on an AWESOME throw by Flacco and it was all Trestman's fault.  Wagner gets beat, Fowler hits Flacco's arm on the pick -Trestman's fault.  Forsett and West are the WORST running back tandem in the league (Dixon coming back soon hopefully!), but it's Trestman's fault we can't run the ball.  I just do not get this board's infatuation with blaming coordinators whenever ANYTHING goes wrong.

 

 

Get used to it around here. 

[terps85]

Just now, Bandwagon said:

guess you dont know what play calling is

Please tell me what you would have called.

[terps85]

1 minute ago, usmccharles said:

Get used to it around here. 

It makes no sense.

[rdotc]

Just now, terps85 said:

Please tell me what you would have called.

I would have called touchdowns.

 

Believe me, I'd have made the best calls.

 

-Make the Ravens Great Again - 2016

[usmccharles]

Just now, terps85 said:

It makes no sense.

Nope, not at all. 

[redlobster]

Shame they didn't cut forsett and not re-sign him. A lot of money for no production 

[ravensdfan]

Forsett looked awful today.

 

[Militant X 1]

1 minute ago, rdotc said:

I would have called touchdowns.

 

Believe me, I'd have made the best calls.

 

-Make the Ravens Great Again - 2016

LOL!!!

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, redlobster said:

Shame they didn't cut forsett and not re-sign him. A lot of money for no production 

I wouldnt say 3mill a year is a lot, but your night, definitely not earning. 

[RavensFan34950]

How many over throws have we seen from Flacco today? How many catches did Perriman drop today? How many holes were opened up in the run game? But some how some way, its Tresmans the players aren't executing fault? Please explain the logic.

Edited September 25, 2016 by RavensFan34950

[darklight1216]

The good: Justin Tucker

The bad: Shareece Wright

The ugly: The offensive line 

I hate to be such a downer, but when I look at this this team I think that they aren't really good at anything. The run game is non-existent, the passing game disappears for multiple quarters, the secondary is filled with guys who can't really play football all that well, and the front seven doesn't tackle like they should which makes the run D suspect.

Before this game I said the special teams were great, but now I'm not so sure (excepting Justin Tucker who is amazing).

I really hope they can fix at least of the above issues during the "easy" part of the schedule, because things could get rough when the latter part of the season starts.

[usmccharles]

Just now, RavensFan34950 said:

How many over throws have we seen from Flacco today? How many catches did Perriman drop today? How many holes were opened up in the run game? But some how some way, its Tresmans fault? Please explain the logic.

Dont expect a lot of logic on this board

[redrum52]

My biggest gripe has to be that the offense is content with milking the clock and getting fgs.  They don't seem to have any killer instinct.  Can't hope for blocked kicks and picks every game. 

[Inqui]

6 minutes ago, rdotc said:

I would have called touchdowns.

 

Believe me, I'd have made the best calls.

 

-Make the Ravens Great Again - 2016

Quality.

[redrum52]

3 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

Forsett looked awful today.

 

Just today?  In his defense, the blocking up front is doing him no favors.

[redrum52]

2 minutes ago, RavensFan34950 said:

How many over throws have we seen from Flacco today? How many catches did Perriman drop today? How many holes were opened up in the run game? But some how some way, its Tresmans fault? Please explain the logic.

I think Cam Cameron just fired...

[terps85]

3 minutes ago, RavensFan34950 said:

How many over throws have we seen from Flacco today? How many catches did Perriman drop today? How many holes were opened up in the run game? But some how some way, its Tresmans the players aren't executing fault? Please explain the logic.

Couldn't agree more.

[Cville-Raven]

1 minute ago, redrum52 said:

My biggest gripe has to be that the offense is content with milking the clock and getting fgs.  They don't seem to have any killer instinct.  Can't hope for blocked kicks and picks every game. 

Yeah, we can move the ball but can't go the full 100%. Our passing game is just way too lateral.

[jazz1988]

Did any one notice how the run game   got better when The Ravens put Jensen in at left guard ? The defense also seem to get more sacks and turnovers after the cornerbacks were in man coverage instead of off man and zone .

[ravensdfan]

Just now, redrum52 said:

Just today?  In his defense, the blocking up front is doing him no favors.

Okay well, he looked especially awful today lol

I know the blocking up front is pretty poor but West seems to at least make something happen some of the time. Forsett just looks like he has no chance.