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[News] Eisenberg: Ravens' Comeback Formula Started And Ended With Joe Flacco

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Way to go Joe plus having his buddy back Dennis Pitta mite have a lot to do with that comeback! Got my 300yd plus Joe back 123 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WE THE BEST! "BOSSES"

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Now, it seems to me that his teammates got an object lesson in what he means to this team! I bet Mike Wallace isn't the only Raven saying "Wow" to himself!

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That's my QB. Never give up on Joe. Never give up on the Ravens... and NEVER EVER leave a Ravens game before it's over.

I learned that one a few years ago. I had thrown in the towel and wanted to go home, and my brother said, "We're not going anywhere, he's not done". And we pulled it off against the Patriots with 4 seconds left. Down by 2, about a minute and a half left, and Joe went down the field... Tucker kicked the FG, and we won by one.

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Joe Flacco wins games. That is what he does. He will never lead the league in passing, he will never have a great QBR, he will never be a number one qb fantasy pick, he may never even make a pro bowl. But what Joe Flacco has learned to do since he was a little kid was to win. I think at times he doesn't even get his blood moving until he feels the game is in the balance. I remember his 6 TD passing tear against Tampa Bay when he did it in a little more than a quarter. Would we love every game to be like that, yes, but that isn't going to happen with Joe Flacco. I think of Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler and several others who put up those flashy numbers and think would I want them to be my QB. You can argue if the played on the Ravens they would be more successful because of the defense, because of the run game or because of any because you can think of but I don't think so. I would rather have Joe and his streakiness, his frustrating inconsistency, his lack of fire, AND his ability to win games. Everyday and twice on Sunday (or Monday or Thursday as the case may be). Go Ravens!!!

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My take is this weekend is a HUGE game to see if this Raven team is legit or just an average team. The main issue I see right now is the running game or lack of. Has anyone heard anything about Dixon. He reminds me of Ray Rice back in the day. Need to be able to run the ball. Huge early test in Jacksonville.

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Looks like Mike Wallace has found another QB he excels with. Joe and Wallace will become another Roethlisberger Brown duo. Its great Dennis had a spectacular game.

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Once SSS gets his legs back and Wallace continues to improve chemistry with Flacco the offense is going to improve. Don't forget Perriman and Moore either. Sooner rather than later the two are going to start making big splash plays with Pitta, SSS and Wallace charged with moving the chains. When the receiving corps starts clicking, the run game with Forsett, Dixon and West will blossom. It may take a few more games for that to happen, but I am near certain it will and then this team will look like a playoff caliber team not just to us, but to the Raven hating punditry as well.

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Don't forget coaching turned down a Tucker field goal for a 4th and 2 run. Flacco and Wallace look like a serious combo. Pitta was also huge in this game. He was hitting gains for huge chunks and 3rd Down conversions. Having a 5 WR rotation keeps guys fresh, but it also can hurt the rapport Flacco has with his main WRs. I think Chris Moore is worth playing though.

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29 minutes ago, jravens1313 said:

Don't forget coaching turned down a Tucker field goal for a 4th and 2 run. Flacco and Wallace look like a serious combo. Pitta was also huge in this game. He was hitting gains for huge chunks and 3rd Down conversions. Having a 5 WR rotation keeps guys fresh, but it also can hurt the rapport Flacco has with his main WRs. I think Chris Moore is worth playing though.

Oh, I didn't forget. To me, that was a mistake. If on 3rd and 2 you get a yard or yard and a half ... maybe. But when you run on 3rd and 2 and get zero, running again on 4th and 2 and expecting to get 2 was not the right call. I could see it if we were on the 38, but on the 31 - that's a relatively high percentage FG with Tucker and when you've been struggling to just have the offense get any kind of point production, you gotta take points there. 

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54 minutes ago, The Greek said:

fix the running game

Well DUH! Enough coaches and players mentioned that already!

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First off, its easier to establish the run game when your NOT 20 points down and playing from behind! How did the Browns, repeat Browns, score 20 on the D? I say 2 big plays and some missed opportunities. But so far the Ravens are not enjoying the benefit of having the lead and establishing a run game. Lastly, I believe that some good old i formation and fullback option sets would be worth a try. all that said...Great Job staying with it and getting the win by Joe and the entire team.

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That's my QB. Never give up on Joe. Never give up on the Ravens... and NEVER EVER leave a Ravens game before it's over.

I learned that one a few years ago. I had thrown in the towel and wanted to go home, and my brother said, "We're not going anywhere, he's not done". And we pulled it off against the Patriots with 4 seconds left. Down by 2, about a minute and a half left, and Joe went down the field... Tucker kicked the FG, and we won by one.

That Mile High Miracle game won me over. Honestly, that was one of the happiest moments of my life.

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Once SSS gets his legs back and Wallace continues to improve chemistry with Flacco the offense is going to improve. Don't forget Perriman and Moore either. Sooner rather than later the two are going to start making big splash plays with Pitta, SSS and Wallace charged with moving the chains. When the receiving corps starts clicking, the run game with Forsett, Dixon and West will blossom. It may take a few more games for that to happen, but I am near certain it will and then this team will look like a playoff caliber team not just to us, but to the Raven hating punditry as well.

why does everyone leave out Aikens?

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2 hours ago, sami said:

why does everyone leave out Aikens?

He has a forgettable name? Like Aikens?? Just totally forgot about Kamar Aiken though... but since Pitta is back and Wallace is also assuming the role of being a possession receiver, I think the bulk of 3rd down conversion type throws will be made to Pitta, Wallace and SSS. Leaves very few balls for Aiken unfortunately. But he is an injury away from becoming a go to receiver again.

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It is great that they won, but how could anyone be happy about that performance in the first quarter. If that was the Steelers or Patriots, there would be no come back from digging a hole that deep. Thank goodness it was the lowly Browns. The offense needs to get it in gear quicker and stop with the 3 and 4 yard passes. Especially frustrating is the inability to make one yard on third down. You would think that by now, Trestman would realize how important these situations are and have a play or two for them. Joe is what he is, great on some plays, terrible on others. No one questions his toughness or capability, but his inconsistency is legend.

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6 hours ago, cobrajet said:

That Mile High Miracle game won me over. Honestly, that was one of the happiest moments of my life.

I was watching that game in Florida with 2 friends of mine from Pitt. The look on their faces after that play was priceless. Our bet was that if the Ravens win they have to endure watching the whole super bowl with me at any location I chose. I'm so happy that I forced 2 squelers to wear black and yellow at an all purple bar, get picked on like you know what and suffer through every minute ?

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Looks like Mike Wallace has found another QB he excels with. Joe and Wallace will become another Roethlisberger Brown duo. Its great Dennis had a spectacular game.

"Joe and Wallace will become another Roethlisberger Brown duo."

Whoa there friend, you might need to slow down.

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  15 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Once SSS gets his legs back and Wallace continues to improve chemistry with Flacco the offense is going to improve. Don't forget Perriman and Moore either. Sooner rather than later the two are going to start making big splash plays with Pitta, SSS and Wallace charged with moving the chains. When the receiving corps starts clicking, the run game with Forsett, Dixon and West will blossom. It may take a few more games for that to happen, but I am near certain it will and then this team will look like a playoff caliber team not just to us, but to the Raven hating punditry as well.

why does everyone leave out Aikens?

Because he's not that good. He's a great number 4 or 5 wr. Even a number 3 sometimes. But SSS, Perriman, Wallace, Moore and Pitta all have more to offer as a pass catcher. That doesn't mean he's not an important part of the team though

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My take is this weekend is a HUGE game to see if this Raven team is legit or just an average team. The main issue I see right now is the running game or lack of. Has anyone heard anything about Dixon. He reminds me of Ray Rice back in the day. Need to be able to run the ball. Huge early test in Jacksonville.

You're right. The running game is atrocious right now. I think there are 3 things that will improve the running game more and more as the season goes on. The Oline needs time to gel, especially the left side. MadMan Dixon will be back. He's way better than Forsett and West imo. He reminds me of one of my favorite players ever. Fred Taylor. Also, I think the passing game is just going to get better and better with SSS getting healthier, Perriman working his way in and becoming a major deep threat, and Moore working his way in as well. So with the passing game becoming very dangerous as time goes on, it should only help and open up the run game.
As far as hearing anything about Dixon. I haven't, but I anticipate it being at least another 2-3 weeks before he's out on the field. Not only did he hurt his knee. but he also has to work his way back into football shape. I'm a little worried about our cbs, mostly the # 2 corner. BUT starting arounf mid season or so, I think we should be hanging 30+ on our opponents. Don't care who we're playing. I would prefer we were the underdogs in every single game we played no matter what, but I think after weeks 14-17... the media will not have any choice but to show mad respect for the Baltimore Ravens

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There was a rather famous quarterback who was considered to be rather emotionless (other than periodic anger over poorly executed plays), and did his job quite well. Although not blessed as a great physical specimen, his coolness under fire, and uncanny ability to read defenses endears him to football fans forever. He is especially beloved by Baltimore fans, and his statue is in the entrance to the stadium. To those of you too young to have actually seen him play, I am sorry. Whenever he entered the field, there was pandamonium by the fans, and fear by the opposing team. Everybody knew SOMETHING was going to happen, either good, or bad. Joe Flacco will never have this respect, but his coolness is comparable.

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  16 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Once SSS gets his legs back and Wallace continues to improve chemistry with Flacco the offense is going to improve. Don't forget Perriman and Moore either. Sooner rather than later the two are going to start making big splash plays with Pitta, SSS and Wallace charged with moving the chains. When the receiving corps starts clicking, the run game with Forsett, Dixon and West will blossom. It may take a few more games for that to happen, but I am near certain it will and then this team will look like a playoff caliber team not just to us, but to the Raven hating punditry as well.

why does everyone leave out Aikens?

I agree...Karmar was one of the few bright spots of last year. He can definitely play in the thick of things. I think we are so stacked with talent this year it may take him a while to register again on the radar...but that being said...I always think of him too. Def a playmaker.

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  14 hours ago, sami said:
  17 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Once SSS gets his legs back and Wallace continues to improve chemistry with Flacco the offense is going to improve. Don't forget Perriman and Moore either. Sooner rather than later the two are going to start making big splash plays with Pitta, SSS and Wallace charged with moving the chains. When the receiving corps starts clicking, the run game with Forsett, Dixon and West will blossom. It may take a few more games for that to happen, but I am near certain it will and then this team will look like a playoff caliber team not just to us, but to the Raven hating punditry as well.

why does everyone leave out Aikens?

I agree...Karmar was one of the few bright spots of last year. He can definitely play in the thick of things. I think we are so stacked with talent this year it may take him a while to register again on the radar...but that being said...I always think of him too. Def a playmaker.

Sorry but he's not a playmaker. The only reason he had decent stats last year is because he was the only one left to throw to. He's a # 3 wr at best on any team

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  47 minutes ago, Ravenshine said:
  14 hours ago, sami said:
  17 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Once SSS gets his legs back and Wallace continues to improve chemistry with Flacco the offense is going to improve. Don't forget Perriman and Moore either. Sooner rather than later the two are going to start making big splash plays with Pitta, SSS and Wallace charged with moving the chains. When the receiving corps starts clicking, the run game with Forsett, Dixon and West will blossom. It may take a few more games for that to happen, but I am near certain it will and then this team will look like a playoff caliber team not just to us, but to the Raven hating punditry as well.

why does everyone leave out Aikens?

I agree...Karmar was one of the few bright spots of last year. He can definitely play in the thick of things. I think we are so stacked with talent this year it may take him a while to register again on the radar...but that being said...I always think of him too. Def a playmaker.

Sorry but he's not a playmaker. The only reason he had decent stats last year is because he was the only one left to throw to. He's a # 3 wr at best on any team

He caught the throws and got the stats, that's enough proof for me.

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And sizzlingdoom, I think we have a different viewpoint on this. For you it needs to be a top receiver to be of value to a team? To me, even if a WR is #3 at best...if he can catch passes and in clutch situations, even if he's not #1 he's still valuable in the game because he makes the receptions (rather than fumble or drop balls), and thus is worth a mention now and then.

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Any game he's a factor in us winning...whether it be Jags or Giants, we need as many wins we can make. If he contributes to our winning, then he's a good player to have on roster. So far this year he hasn't done much, but I think based on last year he's shown he can factor into getting us yards with him and if other teams see him as a threat...then he's also a valuable decoy too.

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