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[News] The Breakdown: Eisenberg's Five Thoughts vs. Cleveland Browns

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Joe needs time and a pocket to set his feet and step into his throws, and still has trouble anticipating a receiver's break. That's why Kubiak's offense was so effective for him. Play action froze the pass rush, roll-outs created space and time for Flacco to read and set his feet, and receivers could get clearly open for Joe to deliver an almost-late pass.

Face it, he needs a strong running game or else he will be a 30 TD / 20+ INT guy. Sure, he can break 4,000 yds, but the team won't have the W's to make it worthwhile.

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Great job defensively. A couple lucky plays ( an out of bounds TD catch, and an 85 yard TD run), made up a majority of the Browns offense. To shut down any team for 3 quarters is great, especially a division rival and on the road. Improved secondary, and a good young D-line. The offense had a rough start. Joe made a couple bad throws, way too many dropped passes, and absolutely no run game. Along with some predictable, vanilla play calling this one didn't look good. However, to Trestmans credit, he did adjust. He got a little more creative in the passing game, and Joe and his receivers stepped up. The O-line has to improve. So far this year that's the biggest problem. We have no run game whatsoever, and that's hurting are passing game as well. They look a little better in pass coverage. They struggled the first game, but did a lot better against Cleveland. So far, our FAs have been the difference. Keep it up Weddle and Wallace. A special shout out to Pitta, great game. Way to put in the time and effort to get back.

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Great job defensively. A couple lucky plays ( an out of bounds TD catch, and an 85 yard TD run), made up a majority of the Browns offense. To shut down any team for 3 quarters is great, especially a division rival and on the road. Improved secondary, and a good young D-line. The offense had a rough start. Joe made a couple bad throws, way too many dropped passes, and absolutely no run game. Along with some predictable, vanilla play calling this one didn't look good. However, to Trestmans credit, he did adjust. He got a little more creative in the passing game, and Joe and his receivers stepped up. The O-line has to improve. So far this year that's the biggest problem. We have no run game whatsoever, and that's hurting are passing game as well. They look a little better in pass coverage. They struggled the first game, but did a lot better against Cleveland. So far, our FAs have been the difference. Keep it up Weddle and Wallace. A special shout out to Pitta, great game. Way to put in the time and effort to get back.

What? A positive post? Most Ravens Fans(?) think we are 0-2.

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  10 hours ago, stixfix69 said:

After 2 games, that were completely different, i'm not going to hate on 2-0....Bills had 160 yards total offense last week, and then had 393 yards against a Jets defense, and then we allow 387 yards against a division opponent, yet come back from 20 down....This is the N.FL. if people are expecting us to blow teams out week in and week out, will be terribly disappointed.....Bottom line these two wins are games we lost last year, and now things are going our way, and there is no doubt what the deep threats we have on the team have already made a huge difference...And the Defense stood tall when they had to....2-0 is all that matters, we just have to keep improving.....so is it next Sunday yet???

Thank you for looking at things that way. Too many fans are upset because we don't play perfect ball. We are what we are and that will not change. The offense will get better and the defense will stiffen when necessary. Are we going to win them all, NO, but we'll take what we can and be happy for it.

Good reply. Most Ravens Fans(?) think we are 0-2 reading the majority of the comments. I know it's early but of the 12 teams who made the playoffs last year, 9 of them were 2-0. 12 teams started the season last year 2-0. Translated, I'd rather be 2-0 regardless of how you get the W's.

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Ill take the win , could have done without the first quarter, but hey this is the NFL any team can win on any week ( just ask the seahawks) .
My frustrations come with J forsett, he no longer has that burst, he seems to be running scared, instead of looking for a open lane, he is running straight into the pile , its time to give West and co the bulk of the carries..

Looking forward to Dixon's return.

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Thought #6 on the Cleveland Browns game:

Ravens games almost always go down to the wire. Time and time again, John Harbaugh gives up a chance at a chip-shot FG in the first and goes for it on 4th and short. 85% of the time we come away with zero points.

Instead of suffering through the last 2 minutes wishing we had that 3 points back, WHY NOT KICK THE FIELD GOAL WHEN WE KNOW WE WILL NEED IT IN THE END?

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6 hours ago, Fastynart said:

Well, a win is a win, BUT, anyone who still thinks Joe Flacco is Pro Bowl material should check into the nearest psychiatric hospital. Perhaps it is the awful play calling that makes him look not only worse but stupid as well. Time and again the Ravens fail on short yardage situations. Time and again Harbaugh blows game management, using all three time outs so the Ravens have none at the end of the game. If not for that ridiculous penalty on Pryor, Cleveland has the ball, first and goal inside the Ravens 10. Most poorly managed win in Ravens history. You won't get away with it against quality teams.

I think Joe Flacco is still pro bowl material. Yeah he wasn't perfect yesterday, but we have absolutely no running game and after the first quarter, Flacco got on a roll. I'm not liking the play calling so far. The Ravens failing in short yardage has nothing to do with Flacco at times. I'm tired of seeing those dumb pitches to the outside when we should be running between the tackles. And another thing, you can blame Harbaugh for the poor clock management, but Forsett ran out of bound when he should have known to stay in on a second down play. It's easy to point fingers to the men in charge, but you really have no idea whats going on in the game. We were also unlucky multiple times. Yeah the Pryor flag was BS, but Coleman was out of bounds on that first TD. Pitta wasn't quite set on that Moore reception that would have put the game away pretty much, and he also dropped a TD pass. The second interception by Flacco was just a little underthrown. I understand what he was doing, but he needs to put that at the back of the endzone instead of a jump ball. I think Flacco looks okay. Perfect? No. He will be just fine though. I'm more concerned with the running game and our defense getting off the field on 3rd down.

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16 minutes ago, rvnmaniak said:

Thought #6 on the Cleveland Browns game:

Ravens games almost always go down to the wire. Time and time again, John Harbaugh gives up a chance at a chip-shot FG in the first and goes for it on 4th and short. 85% of the time we come away with zero points.

Instead of suffering through the last 2 minutes wishing we had that 3 points back, WHY NOT KICK THE FIELD GOAL WHEN WE KNOW WE WILL NEED IT IN THE END?

Edit^^^^^1st half.....

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I think I speak for everyone when I say I was about to throw in the towel when the browns got that 3rd TD. I could only imagine how the die hard fans at the bar felt. It looked almost as if our team had found out a way to be worse than they were last season. I was in a group text with 4 of my good buddies, and two of em were clowning me out about the ravens getting torched, and bragging about McCown.

I didn't lose the faith tho. We came right back and beat the CRAP outta McCown!!!!!!!!!!!! Bet he won't be throwing 400yds against us anymore with that battered shoulder.

Big ups to BRENT URBAN, TIMMY JERNIGAN, MICHAEL PIERCE, and MATT JUDON!!!!!!

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I think I speak for everyone when I say I was about to throw in the towel when the browns got that 3rd TD. I could only imagine how the die hard fans at the bar felt. It looked almost as if our team had found out a way to be worse than they were last season. I was in a group text with 4 of my good buddies, and two of em were clowning me out about the ravens getting torched, and bragging about McCown.

I didn't lose the faith tho. We came right back and beat the CRAP outta McCown!!!!!!!!!!!! Bet he won't be throwing 400yds against us anymore with that battered shoulder.

Big ups to BRENT URBAN, TIMMY JERNIGAN, MICHAEL PIERCE, and MATT JUDON!!!!!!

To add to my own comment.....My friend that was clowning me when the browns were up 20-0 on us is a Packers fan.

And was it not true GLORY to watch the Packs get beat by Sam Bradford last night!!!!!!!

I clowned his butt right back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Can you guys imagine how epic and emotional it must have been on our sideline when our team was fighting back from 20 points down. Imagine the concentration and seriousness on all the players faces. That is something our staff & technical crew need to put out ASAP.

WE FANS WANT THE BEHIND THE SCENES FOOTAGE NOW!!!

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Good win on the road but what the heck with the pass coverage? Even got gouged at the end the game to put the ball on the Cleveland 10. Couldn't get the game here in Richmond so didn't see anything but the 'highlights' but looks like the pass coverage needs to improve to beat better receivers than last place Cleveland. Cleveland had the game and the refs turned the game in the Ravens' favor.

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I'm very impressed with how all the young players handled this, think of all the rookies who played a role, Stanley,Lewis, Judon,Pierce, Z 2nd year player, Orr first year starter.....Wallace is making Oz once again, looking like a genius...Mike thanks for stinking for the last 3 years so we could scoop you up in bring you back into the division where you shined....:)

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1 hour ago, Derrel said:

Good win on the road but what the heck with the pass coverage? Even got gouged at the end the game to put the ball on the Cleveland 10. Couldn't get the game here in Richmond so didn't see anything but the 'highlights' but looks like the pass coverage needs to improve to beat better receivers than last place Cleveland. Cleveland had the game and the refs turned the game in the Ravens' favor.

they did beat up McCown though. Big DL play in the last 3 quarters. That late pass was troubling though...Pittsburgh and Cincy are watching that one.

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  7 hours ago, Fastynart said:

Well, a win is a win, BUT, anyone who still thinks Joe Flacco is Pro Bowl material should check into the nearest psychiatric hospital. Perhaps it is the awful play calling that makes him look not only worse but stupid as well. Time and again the Ravens fail on short yardage situations. Time and again Harbaugh blows game management, using all three time outs so the Ravens have none at the end of the game. If not for that ridiculous penalty on Pryor, Cleveland has the ball, first and goal inside the Ravens 10. Most poorly managed win in Ravens history. You won't get away with it against quality teams.

I think Joe Flacco is still pro bowl material. Yeah he wasn't perfect yesterday, but we have absolutely no running game and after the first quarter, Flacco got on a roll. I'm not liking the play calling so far. The Ravens failing in short yardage has nothing to do with Flacco at times. I'm tired of seeing those dumb pitches to the outside when we should be running between the tackles. And another thing, you can blame Harbaugh for the poor clock management, but Forsett ran out of bound when he should have known to stay in on a second down play. It's easy to point fingers to the men in charge, but you really have no idea whats going on in the game. We were also unlucky multiple times. Yeah the Pryor flag was BS, but Coleman was out of bounds on that first TD. Pitta wasn't quite set on that Moore reception that would have put the game away pretty much, and he also dropped a TD pass. The second interception by Flacco was just a little underthrown. I understand what he was doing, but he needs to put that at the back of the endzone instead of a jump ball. I think Flacco looks okay. Perfect? No. He will be just fine though. I'm more concerned with the running game and our defense getting off the field on 3rd down.

Good reply. Drew Brees is a perennial pro bowler. The Saints are 0-2. Quick, would you rather be 2-0 or 0-2?

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  5 minutes ago, Derrel said:

Good win on the road but what the h....with the pass coverage? Even got gouged at the end the game to put the ball on the Cleveland 10. Couldn't get the game here in Richmond so didn't see anything but the 'highlights' but looks like the pass coverage needs to improve to beat better receivers than last place Cleveland. Cleveland had the game and the refs turned the game in the Ravens' favor.

they did beat up McCown though. Big DL play in the last 3 quarters. That late pass was troubling though...Pittsburgh and Cincy are watching that one.

I agree, thats the one thing that i really don't like about Pees D, when we protect a lead, instead of continuing to be aggressive, and we go to the prevent defense which i can;t stand.....You know Pit would be bringing, betting that their guys would get to the QB before he could get a deep pass off, and our CB's giving the cushion they were giving won't get it done, more press coverage, and trust the back end will have your back.....

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  57 minutes ago, J.O.14 said:
  8 hours ago, Fastynart said:

Well, a win is a win, BUT, anyone who still thinks Joe Flacco is Pro Bowl material should check into the nearest psychiatric hospital. Perhaps it is the awful play calling that makes him look not only worse but stupid as well. Time and again the Ravens fail on short yardage situations. Time and again Harbaugh blows game management, using all three time outs so the Ravens have none at the end of the game. If not for that ridiculous penalty on Pryor, Cleveland has the ball, first and goal inside the Ravens 10. Most poorly managed win in Ravens history. You won't get away with it against quality teams.

I think Joe Flacco is still pro bowl material. Yeah he wasn't perfect yesterday, but we have absolutely no running game and after the first quarter, Flacco got on a roll. I'm not liking the play calling so far. The Ravens failing in short yardage has nothing to do with Flacco at times. I'm tired of seeing those dumb pitches to the outside when we should be running between the tackles. And another thing, you can blame Harbaugh for the poor clock management, but Forsett ran out of bound when he should have known to stay in on a second down play. It's easy to point fingers to the men in charge, but you really have no idea whats going on in the game. We were also unlucky multiple times. Yeah the Pryor flag was BS, but Coleman was out of bounds on that first TD. Pitta wasn't quite set on that Moore reception that would have put the game away pretty much, and he also dropped a TD pass. The second interception by Flacco was just a little underthrown. I understand what he was doing, but he needs to put that at the back of the endzone instead of a jump ball. I think Flacco looks okay. Perfect? No. He will be just fine though. I'm more concerned with the running game and our defense getting off the field on 3rd down.

Good reply. Drew Brees is a perennial pro bowler. The Saints are 0-2. Quick, would you rather be 2-0 or 0-2?

Exactly. That why l'm been telling fans. Drew Brees is a stat QB nothing else. He throws 300 and 400 yard type games but no wins to show for it. To me, he usually average 7-9 wins a year. Joe sometimes might don't have good stats but he still finds ways to win.

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  17 minutes ago, whobilly said:
  1 hour ago, J.O.14 said:
  8 hours ago, Fastynart said:

Well, a win is a win, BUT, anyone who still thinks Joe Flacco is Pro Bowl material should check into the nearest psychiatric hospital. Perhaps it is the awful play calling that makes him look not only worse but stupid as well. Time and again the Ravens fail on short yardage situations. Time and again Harbaugh blows game management, using all three time outs so the Ravens have none at the end of the game. If not for that ridiculous penalty on Pryor, Cleveland has the ball, first and goal inside the Ravens 10. Most poorly managed win in Ravens history. You won't get away with it against quality teams.

I think Joe Flacco is still pro bowl material. Yeah he wasn't perfect yesterday, but we have absolutely no running game and after the first quarter, Flacco got on a roll. I'm not liking the play calling so far. The Ravens failing in short yardage has nothing to do with Flacco at times. I'm tired of seeing those dumb pitches to the outside when we should be running between the tackles. And another thing, you can blame Harbaugh for the poor clock management, but Forsett ran out of bound when he should have known to stay in on a second down play. It's easy to point fingers to the men in charge, but you really have no idea whats going on in the game. We were also unlucky multiple times. Yeah the Pryor flag was BS, but Coleman was out of bounds on that first TD. Pitta wasn't quite set on that Moore reception that would have put the game away pretty much, and he also dropped a TD pass. The second interception by Flacco was just a little underthrown. I understand what he was doing, but he needs to put that at the back of the endzone instead of a jump ball. I think Flacco looks okay. Perfect? No. He will be just fine though. I'm more concerned with the running game and our defense getting off the field on 3rd down.

Good reply. Drew Brees is a perennial pro bowler. The Saints are 0-2. Quick, would you rather be 2-0 or 0-2?

Exactly. That why l'm been telling fans. Drew Brees is a stat QB nothing else. He throws 300 and 400 yard type games but no wins to show for it. To me, he usually average 7-9 wins a year. Joe sometimes might don't have good stats but he still finds ways to win.

Saints D just sucks is all, if Brees played on a team that had a decent defense, they would be in it every year.....He has to outscore the other team all the time to get a win.....

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  2 minutes ago, hen826957 said:
  18 minutes ago, whobilly said:
  1 hour ago, J.O.14 said:
  8 hours ago, Fastynart said:

Well, a win is a win, BUT, anyone who still thinks Joe Flacco is Pro Bowl material should check into the nearest psychiatric hospital. Perhaps it is the awful play calling that makes him look not only worse but stupid as well. Time and again the Ravens fail on short yardage situations. Time and again Harbaugh blows game management, using all three time outs so the Ravens have none at the end of the game. If not for that ridiculous penalty on Pryor, Cleveland has the ball, first and goal inside the Ravens 10. Most poorly managed win in Ravens history. You won't get away with it against quality teams.

I think Joe Flacco is still pro bowl material. Yeah he wasn't perfect yesterday, but we have absolutely no running game and after the first quarter, Flacco got on a roll. I'm not liking the play calling so far. The Ravens failing in short yardage has nothing to do with Flacco at times. I'm tired of seeing those dumb pitches to the outside when we should be running between the tackles. And another thing, you can blame Harbaugh for the poor clock management, but Forsett ran out of bound when he should have known to stay in on a second down play. It's easy to point fingers to the men in charge, but you really have no idea whats going on in the game. We were also unlucky multiple times. Yeah the Pryor flag was BS, but Coleman was out of bounds on that first TD. Pitta wasn't quite set on that Moore reception that would have put the game away pretty much, and he also dropped a TD pass. The second interception by Flacco was just a little underthrown. I understand what he was doing, but he needs to put that at the back of the endzone instead of a jump ball. I think Flacco looks okay. Perfect? No. He will be just fine though. I'm more concerned with the running game and our defense getting off the field on 3rd down.

Good reply. Drew Brees is a perennial pro bowler. The Saints are 0-2. Quick, would you rather be 2-0 or 0-2?

Exactly. That why l'm been telling fans. Drew Brees is a stat QB nothing else. He throws 300 and 400 yard type games but no wins to show for it. To me, he usually average 7-9 wins a year. Joe sometimes might don't have good stats but he still finds ways to win.

Saints D just sucks is all, if Brees played on a team that had a decent defense, they would be in it every year.....He has to outscore the other team all the time to get a win.....

Maybe? But the stats are not winning Drew games.

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I can honestly say I wouldn't have been disappointed if they lost yesterday.  The emotional toll of losing a family member (what many have called Coach Brooks) just a day before the game may have been too much to overcome.  Glad they pulled it out, but wouldn't have been surprised or upset if they didn't.  

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That was a fantastic game with a fantastic comeback! Be happy! I don't get Ravens fans sometimes. The glass is always, always HALF EMPTY!

yep, some fans are not happy unless our wins are dominating....AFCN games are always tough, because records have never mattered....Think about how our young players stepped up, and played a big role in this comeback, now that is something to get very excited about....JMO...

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  11 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:
  12 minutes ago, hen826957 said:
  28 minutes ago, whobilly said:
  1 hour ago, J.O.14 said:
  8 hours ago, Fastynart said:

Well, a win is a win, BUT, anyone who still thinks Joe Flacco is Pro Bowl material should check into the nearest psychiatric hospital. Perhaps it is the awful play calling that makes him look not only worse but stupid as well. Time and again the Ravens fail on short yardage situations. Time and again Harbaugh blows game management, using all three time outs so the Ravens have none at the end of the game. If not for that ridiculous penalty on Pryor, Cleveland has the ball, first and goal inside the Ravens 10. Most poorly managed win in Ravens history. You won't get away with it against quality teams.

I think Joe Flacco is still pro bowl material. Yeah he wasn't perfect yesterday, but we have absolutely no running game and after the first quarter, Flacco got on a roll. I'm not liking the play calling so far. The Ravens failing in short yardage has nothing to do with Flacco at times. I'm tired of seeing those dumb pitches to the outside when we should be running between the tackles. And another thing, you can blame Harbaugh for the poor clock management, but Forsett ran out of bound when he should have known to stay in on a second down play. It's easy to point fingers to the men in charge, but you really have no idea whats going on in the game. We were also unlucky multiple times. Yeah the Pryor flag was BS, but Coleman was out of bounds on that first TD. Pitta wasn't quite set on that Moore reception that would have put the game away pretty much, and he also dropped a TD pass. The second interception by Flacco was just a little underthrown. I understand what he was doing, but he needs to put that at the back of the endzone instead of a jump ball. I think Flacco looks okay. Perfect? No. He will be just fine though. I'm more concerned with the running game and our defense getting off the field on 3rd down.

Good reply. Drew Brees is a perennial pro bowler. The Saints are 0-2. Quick, would you rather be 2-0 or 0-2?

Exactly. That why l'm been telling fans. Drew Brees is a stat QB nothing else. He throws 300 and 400 yard type games but no wins to show for it. To me, he usually average 7-9 wins a year. Joe sometimes might don't have good stats but he still finds ways to win.

Saints D just sucks is all, if Brees played on a team that had a decent defense, they would be in it every year.....He has to outscore the other team all the time to get a win.....

Maybe? But the stats are not winning Drew games.

Brees isn't out there to work on stats, he is out their trying to score points for his team, and if the D can't make the points he puts on the board stand, it's not on him.....

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14 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

we can spin this anyway we want to, but I'll tell you this much. Getting down to a Cleveland Browns offense that is really average at best by 20 points in the first quarter is really terrifying. I understand we came back and won the game, but what does it really prove? That we can come back from a deficit and win? Perhaps, but it also tells every other team that you can run big on the Ravens and score 20 points in a quarter too! All in all, I am very disappointed in how we won this game against possibly the worst team in the NFL. People may not like me saying it but it is exactly how I feel. There is an empty feeling despite the win.

Rivalry game, it's the NFL, we are 2-0. Did you see Seattle?

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19 minutes ago, terpmaniac said:

That was a fantastic game with a fantastic comeback! Be happy! I don't get Ravens fans sometimes. The glass is always, always HALF EMPTY!

Half empty is fine. That is the way the Ravens get motivated to fill up the glass.

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  20 minutes ago, hen826957 said:
  29 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:
  31 minutes ago, hen826957 said:
  46 minutes ago, whobilly said:
  1 hour ago, J.O.14 said:
  8 hours ago, Fastynart said:

Well, a win is a win, BUT, anyone who still thinks Joe Flacco is Pro Bowl material should check into the nearest psychiatric hospital. Perhaps it is the awful play calling that makes him look not only worse but stupid as well. Time and again the Ravens fail on short yardage situations. Time and again Harbaugh blows game management, using all three time outs so the Ravens have none at the end of the game. If not for that ridiculous penalty on Pryor, Cleveland has the ball, first and goal inside the Ravens 10. Most poorly managed win in Ravens history. You won't get away with it against quality teams.

I think Joe Flacco is still pro bowl material. Yeah he wasn't perfect yesterday, but we have absolutely no running game and after the first quarter, Flacco got on a roll. I'm not liking the play calling so far. The Ravens failing in short yardage has nothing to do with Flacco at times. I'm tired of seeing those dumb pitches to the outside when we should be running between the tackles. And another thing, you can blame Harbaugh for the poor clock management, but Forsett ran out of bound when he should have known to stay in on a second down play. It's easy to point fingers to the men in charge, but you really have no idea whats going on in the game. We were also unlucky multiple times. Yeah the Pryor flag was BS, but Coleman was out of bounds on that first TD. Pitta wasn't quite set on that Moore reception that would have put the game away pretty much, and he also dropped a TD pass. The second interception by Flacco was just a little underthrown. I understand what he was doing, but he needs to put that at the back of the endzone instead of a jump ball. I think Flacco looks okay. Perfect? No. He will be just fine though. I'm more concerned with the running game and our defense getting off the field on 3rd down.

Good reply. Drew Brees is a perennial pro bowler. The Saints are 0-2. Quick, would you rather be 2-0 or 0-2?

Exactly. That why l'm been telling fans. Drew Brees is a stat QB nothing else. He throws 300 and 400 yard type games but no wins to show for it. To me, he usually average 7-9 wins a year. Joe sometimes might don't have good stats but he still finds ways to win.

Saints D just sucks is all, if Brees played on a team that had a decent defense, they would be in it every year.....He has to outscore the other team all the time to get a win.....

Maybe? But the stats are not winning Drew games.

Brees isn't out there to work on stats, he is out their trying to score points for his team, and if the D can't make the points he puts on the board stand, it's not on him.....

True. ?

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The Browns aren't even close to the worst team in the league and will probably win 6 or 7 games this year. They are young, fast and talented.
But to go down by 20 in the first quarter was ridiculous. It was a "perfect storm" situation and hopefully won't happen again.
But to comeback from 20 points on the road against a division opponent was pretty special and required some very good football. The defense played shut out ball which was exceptional. Tucker was money, again. And Flacco did enough to win in the end.
The game also exposed several weaknesses in the Raven team. Specifically the offensive line and the running game need to improve.
But we also can take comfort in the fact that we have a very good defense and have added many quality players through the draft and FA. Pierce, Weddle, Wallace and Orr have been making unexpectedly big contributions. The return of Pitta is huge.
Being 2-0 is really important. Having no significant injuries is wonderful.
I said before the game I would be happy to eke out a 3 point win in Cleveland so I'm overjoyed at a 5 point win. Winning on the road is the sign of a good NFL team. Now we have to go to Jacksonville and do it again. This will be another nail biter and again I will be ecstatic with a 3 point win.

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Iliek Forsett and West, but i said this when camp broke, i would love to see Houston get a shot, he is a bigger back at 6 foot, and has a nice burst....I have always been a fan of the taller backs, the smaller ones have served us well, but not making 4th and inches two weeks in a row just isn't a good thing....

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