Maxx Williams

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I have a bone to pick with you Harbs..

Why isn't Maxx Williams catching passes? He played well last season, displayed good hands, and when you have put him in, has made very good blocks. Crockett, as I've said in the past, is overrated. He had two critical drops today with a defender draped over him, catches I have seen Williams make in the past. You could make a legit argument from watching the end of last season that Maxx was our best TE by the season's end. When we fed him the ball, good things happened. 

 

Maxx's college tape showed a physical game where he was able to make contested catches. Crockett as a pro has shown he is not good with a defender draped on him. PLAY MAXX. He's more talented, has better hands, and is a pretty good blocker himself. Don't waste him. He wasn't a scrub last year. 

Edited September 18, 2016 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[rmw10]

Although I agree that I'd like to see Maxx a little more involved in the passing game, I've noticed him quite a few times as a blocker and for good reason.  He destroyed a guy last week and was solid again as an inline guy this week.  I think he'll steadily earn some more playing time as the season goes on.

[JoeyFlex5]

What rmw said. He smeared the hell out of somebody today as well. He's done very well as a blocker so he's seeing the field. 

The problem is, pitta is out there. We all know that if Joe needs a tight catch he's going to pitta, not maxx. And if pitta is doing well then I'm fine with it 

I think maxx is gonna be good one day, he just isn't the top receiving TE at the moment.

[jdynamite]

I was feeling during the game like where is Maxx at. Although I'm happy to see Pitta contributing greatly to our win, had the thought of oh great there goes a wasted pick if they won't play kid over Crockett either.  

The kid is young with potential, had a decent rookie year, I really just want to see continued development and increasing playing time.  

Dont want to see his name with growing list of draft picks to not earn a second contract..  

[Tru11]

pitta looks on point.

[Cville-Raven]

If Gilmore continues to show weak hands than I'd like to see Maxx more in the passing game. He's a good blocker but I guess they like Gilmore more on passing downs. I think part of the problem now is that there are simply too many mouths to feed and the ones that are going to be fed more are our other WRs. 

[Wildabeast88]

I am all for moving Maxx to number 2 Pitta showed he is the man today.

[Edgar]

I'm glad somebody started this thread.

Maxx got beaten badly off the right side and Joe pulled a Houdini to escape the sack. He does block and is a willing blocker but I'm not as impressed with him in line as some to this point.

I'm a pretty big Maxx fan and also wonder why he doesn't get more opportunities but this will be mixed.

There is no question if he were drafted by Pittsburgh he would be stepping up for them. A natural pass catcher and athlete and to this point we are wasting what he does best. Why draft this guy and bury what he does best? Ben Watson? A lot of frustrating (to me) things surrounding Maxx...our 2nd round pick who we moved to get.

I have to wonder though; how is it that a 21 year old shows up for his second straight year with a gut? Really no excuse for that.

[rmw10]

6 minutes ago, Edgar said:

I'm glad somebody started this thread.

Maxx got beaten badly off the right side and Joe pulled a Houdini to escape the sack. He does block and is a willing blocker but I'm not as impressed with him in line as some to this point.

I'm a pretty big Maxx fan and also wonder why he doesn't get more opportunities but this will be mixed.

There is no question if he were drafted by Pittsburgh he would be stepping up for them. A natural pass catcher and athlete and to this point we are wasting what he does best. Why draft this guy and bury what he does best? Ben Watson? A lot of frustrating (to me) things surrounding Maxx...our 2nd round pick who we moved to get.

I have to wonder though; how is it that a 21 year old shows up for his second straight year with a gut? Really no excuse for that.

I noticed that play as well.  I'm more impressed with his blocking because it felt like he was all catchy, no blocky when we drafted him.  I think I'm impressed with his blocking because of how much he's improved in that area.  There's still more work to be done, but I think it's showing that he's still a developing player, which is alright for a guy as young as he is.

[52520Andrew]

As long as Maxx is out there doing well, then I am fine. I think in time we will see him catching more and more passes as well. At least unlike other high picks we have had he is seeing the field and doing well.

[reed20]

I love Maxx but there's no one I'll take over Pitta. He's the real deal and still has it.

[Daft Classic]

Pitta is top guy while healthy. This is undisputed

Best thing Maxx can do right now is prove to be a capable blocker, and he's done an excellent job at it. As long as he keeps it up, he should hop ahead of Gilmore relatively soon. 

We have a very interesting situation once Waller comes back

[Davesta]

This is what I don't like about the Ravens. We usually draft them, but give the start to veterans. By the time we use them, it's the last year of their rookie contract. But in this case, pitta balled out so can't complain. 

 

[52liveforever]

45 minutes ago, Davesta said:

This is what I don't like about the Ravens. We usually draft them, but give the start to veterans. By the time we use them, it's the last year of their rookie contract. But in this case, pitta balled out so can't complain. 

 

I don't know. We have a 5th round rookie in Judon, a Fourth round rookie in Lewis, and an undrafted rookie in Pierce and they are all seeing a lot of playing time. 

 

I mean there are guys I want to see more of too, but I don't think they are as partial to vets as you may think it appears.

[GrimCoconut]

Lol okay so I don't think Ozzie Newsome was sitting there last year on Draft day saying "Well, I got Pitta so I don't need Maxx Williams." I'm also sure that we didn't do "Well, we have Pitta, Williams, Boyle, and this guy Gillmore, and then we're converting Waller--but Waller and Boyle are both suspended so let's sign Watson to troll the fans. Lol!" and then we signed Watson just to bury Williams on the depth chart. No, I think it was probably all about the fact that nobody knew Pitta would even recover so Ozzie pulled a "CYA" and decided to do just that. He got Williams, Boyle in one draft, Gillmore in another, signed Watson (never a fan of the signing but I got the intent) to avoid having nothing at TE. How can you justify taking Pitta off the field, though, when he and Flacco have evident chemistry? I mean, that's kinda stupid, too.

[usmccharles]

3 hours ago, Davesta said:

This is what I don't like about the Ravens. We usually draft them, but give the start to veterans. By the time we use them, it's the last year of their rookie contract. But in this case, pitta balled out so can't complain. 

 

Best player should play, today that happened  

[gtalk12]

wasn't he dealing with an injury during the pre-season? i had the follow the first game on my phone because of work and the 2nd on some super PATCHY stream online. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Again, Maxx was blocking well. Though he had a really stupid penalty on ST. 

Hope he recovers quickly. Trestman needs to scheme stuff to him. 

 

The fact that he was the first one helping out Hurst is a good sign for the future. Just please get healthy soon. 

[GrimCoconut]

3 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Again, Maxx was blocking well. Though he had a really stupid penalty on ST. 

Hope he recovers quickly. Trestman needs to scheme stuff to him. 

 

The fact that he was the first one helping out Hurst is a good sign for the future. Just please get healthy soon. 

I'm not sure why but it seems a prerequisite to being a Baltimore TE is to be injury-prone. Geez.

[VermontRaven]

Maxx can't catch a break!  From Late for Work article:

 

Maxx Williams’s Season In Jeopardy?

Second-year tight end Maxx Williams has a lingering knee cartilage issue that popped up again Sunday afternoon and prevented him from finishing the game.

Harbaugh said it’s unclear at this point what the best course of action is. Williams could play through the injury, but the head coach isn’t sure whether that’s the right move.

“Williams’ injury could open the door for tight end Darren Waller’s return to the 53-man roster,” wrote Brown. “Waller has served his four-game suspension for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy. He is eligible to be activated up until Oct. 10 before his roster exemption expires.”

Edited October 4, 2016 by VermontRaven

[rmcjacket23]

5 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

Maxx can't catch a break!  From Late for Work article:

 

Maxx Williams’s Season In Jeopardy?

Second-year tight end Maxx Williams has a lingering knee cartilage issue that popped up again Sunday afternoon and prevented him from finishing the game.

Harbaugh said it’s unclear at this point what the best course of action is. Williams could play through the injury, but the head coach isn’t sure whether that’s the right move.

“Williams’ injury could open the door for tight end Darren Waller’s return to the 53-man roster,” wrote Brown. “Waller has served his four-game suspension for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy. He is eligible to be activated up until Oct. 10 before his roster exemption expires.”

Yeah, this seems like a no-brainer move. Send Maxx to IR and bring Waller in to fill his spot.

[redlobster]

lmao what another wasted 2nd round pick (at this point).

 

2016 - Correa - blah (so far)

2015 - Williams - blah

2014 - Jernigan - flashes great play

2013 - Brown - already know what happened here

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, redlobster said:

lmao what another wasted 2nd round pick (at this point).

 

2016 - Correa - blah (so far)

2015 - Williams - blah

2014 - Jernigan - flashes great play

2013 - Brown - already know what happened here

I wouldn't throw in the towel on Maxx yet for his career.

We owe Watson $3M next season, which I doubt we keep him around for that, especially coming off that type of injury, and Pitta is due $5.5M, which I'm not convinced we will pay either. 

He could easily be a top 2-3 TE on this team heading into next season. He obviously doesn't look like he's going to be a Pitta-level producer in the near future, but he still has another year or two to figure it out.

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I wouldn't throw in the towel on Maxx yet for his career.

We owe Watson $3M next season, which I doubt we keep him around for that, especially coming off that type of injury, and Pitta is due $5.5M, which I'm not convinced we will pay either. 

He could easily be a top 2-3 TE on this team heading into next season. He obviously doesn't look like he's going to be a Pitta-level producer in the near future, but he still has another year or two to figure it out.

Real curious to see what we do at TE next year, assuming health and clean behavior.  Watson, Pitta, Gillmore, Williams, Waller, and Boyle all under contract still.

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Real curious to see what we do at TE next year, assuming health and clean behavior.  Watson, Pitta, Gillmore, Williams, Waller, and Boyle all under contract still.

I can't see how Watson and Pitta are back under their current deals. We made Pitta take a gigantic pay cut this season, and even if he continues on the pace he's on now, I'd say $5.5M with an almost $8M cap hit is too much.

Watson I suppose could stick around if he plays for like $1M, but no way he gets paid $3M. 36 coming off a torn achilles? No thanks.

Edited October 4, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I can't see how Watson and Pitta are back under their current deals. We made Pitta take a gigantic pay cut this season, and even if he continues on the pace he's on now, I'd say $5.5M with an almost $8M cap hit is too much.

Watson I suppose could stick around if he plays for like $1M, but no way he gets paid $3M. 36 coming off a torn achilles? No thanks.

I'd venture to guess that Watson will never play a regular season down for the team, unfortunately.  Pitta is expensive but we know how Flacco feels about him.  Just a deep group there so long as they can stay healthy and off of drugs.

[Ravens4Real]

Maxx has been a MASSIVE disappointment so far in his career. Expected so much more out of him than he is giving.

[VermontRaven]

19 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I'd venture to guess that Watson will never play a regular season down for the team, unfortunately.  Pitta is expensive but we know how Flacco feels about him.  Just a deep group there so long as they can stay healthy and off of drugs.

Yeah, I agree about Watson.  I think if PItta stays productive and healthy, we find a way to keep him because of his connection with Flacco.

[jimmypowder]

3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yeah, this seems like a no-brainer move. Send Maxx to IR and bring Waller in to fill his spot.

Plain dumb to send Maxx to IR if he can contribute this year . One comment you say put him on IR and next you say don't throw in the towel in him . I'm a little confused about  your genius analysis of Maxx's situation . 

 

Edited October 4, 2016 by jimmypowder

[rmcjacket23]

25 minutes ago, jimmypowder said:

Plain dumb to send Maxx to IR if he can contribute this year . One comment you say put him on IR and next you say don't throw in the towel in him . I'm a little confused about what your genius analysis of Maxx's situation . 

 

1. He's 3rd on the depth chart and has gotten zero passing targets this season. He's being exclusively used as a blocker, he's playing about 20% of offensive snaps (far behind both Crockett and Pitta) and he's currently got what appears to be a significant injury. With another TE now becoming available, its the most obvious choice to put him on IR. He's likely out a couple weeks at a minimum anyway, and his biggest contributions have come on ST, where Waller can easily be as effective at.

2. Maxx's career isn't over if he goes on IR... he's still got two years left on his contract, hence why I said don't throw in the towel. Not of uncertainty in 2017 at the TE position for us. 

Some fans are capable of thinking beyond the current season, since football will continued to be played next year and in the future.

Edited October 4, 2016 by rmcjacket23