The annual Fire Dean Pees thread; 2016 edition

[JO_75]

So.... Is it the players making the plays or is Dean's play calling better? 

[RavensFanMania]

2 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

So.... Is it the players making the plays or is Dean's play calling better? 

Players playing faster and Frazier. 

[arnie_uk]

They seem smarter. As if it's dumbed down and they just know what they are doing. Less people out of position.

Tackling has def improved as well. 

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, JO_75 said:

So.... Is it the players making the plays or is Dean's play calling better? 

I think they just have better communication on the back end thanks to Weddle

[DomMcRaven]

9 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I know these dont tell the whole story, but its back in our comfort zone - where we're used to seeing Ravens D rank.

Through 3 games:

Pts/G: 4th

Yds/G: 2nd (4 off leader)

Yds/P: T-2nd

1st/G: T-1st

ToP: 8th

Pass Yd/G: 3rd

INT: T-2nd

Sacks: T-7th

QB Rating: 8th (72.2)

 

Top 10's across the board (10th in run/g) and top 3 in a lot of the major categories. This D is for real.

Wow. Now THAT'S impressive. We got a big test coming up this Sunday. Man, if our offense can get it together, it's gonna go a long way for our defense. Speaking of which, I sure hope Doom is playing.

[BmoreBird22]

5 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I feel like I recall seeing a few 5 man rushes. When I watch 1:00 games in JUST waking up after getting home from a 12 hour shift at 7am so I'm on 4 hours of sleep and can barely focus lol but I thought I saw us in base formation quite a bit and sending 5. I could be wrong though. 

According to Filmstudy, you'd be mostly wrong

[redrum52]

21 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think they just have better communication on the back end thanks to Weddle

I think a combo of this and I think players said he's simplified things.  People seem to be happy with the pressures, but I feel like he's not calling things that much different.  Feels they're just getting home now.

[BmoreBird22]

1 hour ago, redrum52 said:

I think a combo of this and I think players said he's simplified things.  People seem to be happy with the pressures, but I feel like he's not calling things that much different.  Feels they're just getting home now.

A lot of four man rushes, really. It helps a ton that Jernigan has exploded onto the scene and Pierce looks like he can provide a big body to rush every once in a while.

[Tank 92]

B Will is doing the thankless job, eating up blockers and opening up opportunities for others. 

[redrum52]

33 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

A lot of four man rushes, really. It helps a ton that Jernigan has exploded onto the scene and Pierce looks like he can provide a big body to rush every once in a while.

Interior pressure been amazing which bodes well for the qbs we face down the line.

 

The pass rush almost always seems to amp up 2nd half of the season as well.

Edited September 27, 2016 by redrum52

[flynismo]

11 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I know these dont tell the whole story, but its back in our comfort zone - where we're used to seeing Ravens D rank.

Through 3 games:

Pts/G: 4th

Yds/G: 2nd (4 off leader)

Yds/P: T-2nd

1st/G: T-1st

ToP: 8th

Pass Yd/G: 3rd

INT: T-2nd

Sacks: T-7th

QB Rating: 8th (72.2)

 

Top 10's across the board (10th in run/g) and top 3 in a lot of the major categories. This D is for real.

 

FIRE PEES!

[RaineV1]

On 9/26/2016 at 4:54 PM, JO_75 said:

So.... Is it the players making the plays or is Dean's play calling better? 

I think it's a bit of both. Pees simplified the coverages so they don't have to over think every play, and they have Weddle and Frazier helping to get all the DBs on the same page. Plus it helps that we're getting interior pressure and even the linebackers are stepping up in coverage.

[PurpleCity5]

Pees was brilliant on Sunday. I don't know who's decision it was to line up Wright on Robinson on goal line because I certainly disagree with that but again, he called a great game. 

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Ravens should pick up Dee Milner off waivers, 2013 pick #9, let him heal, and groom him into our system as he heals, Jets are done with him 

[The Raven]

8 minutes ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

Ravens should pick up Dee Milner off waivers, 2013 pick #9, let him heal, and groom him into our system as he heals, Jets are done with him 

Why?

[Maryland]

5 hours ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

Ravens should pick up Dee Milner off waivers, 2013 pick #9, let him heal, and groom him into our system as he heals, Jets are done with him 

He's a bust man, a bust of similar proportion to Justin Gilbert. 

[KBoum]

Gotta give it to Pees... he's been VERY good this season. He comes up with some exotic 3rd down packages this season. The inside pass rush is very good so it helps the defense a lot. He doens't have to send LBs or DBs on blitzes every time and when he does it works well.

 

and coach Frazer is doing a tremendous job as well. The DBs are playing a lot better this season.

[Tank 92]

31 minutes ago, KBoum said:

Gotta give it to Pees... he's been VERY good this season. He comes up with some exotic 3rd down packages this season. The inside pass rush is very good so it helps the defense a lot. He doens't have to send LBs or DBs on blitzes every time and when he does it works well.

 

and coach Frazer is doing a tremendous job as well. The DBs are playing a lot better this season.

I doubt Pees has changed, he's a pretty old dude and I think he's always been good.  lol   The difference is he has personnel that are executing their assignments.

A HUGE improvement is Weddle.  There is on field communication and coordination on the back end that we have lacked since Ed left. And totally agree about Frazier. We are fortunate to have a DB coach of his quality. I guess Harbs hiring his cronies ain't such a bad thing after all, huh?

[trevorsteadman]

The defense said that Pees simplified a lot of things on defense and it looks to have worked so far. Don't get too fancy with it I guess.

[Tru11]

23 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

The defense said that Pees simplified a lot of things on defense and it looks to have worked so far. Don't get too fancy with it I guess.

tell that to the fans who want exotic blitzes and organised chaos and such.....

[Edgar]

One key so far this year is that so many guys play multiple positions. We are seeing the ravens crowd the line with 6 or 7 defenders a lot.

This creates indecision as to who is dropping, who is coming, of course ( on an offenses part). It appears to be working and seems to agree philosophically with this defense. Pretty organised, somewhat chaotic.

53 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

tell that to the fans who want exotic blitzes and organised chaos and such.....

 

[Tru11]

1 hour ago, Edgar said:

One key so far this year is that so many guys play multiple positions. We are seeing the ravens crowd the line with 6 or 7 defenders a lot.

This creates indecision as to who is dropping, who is coming, of course ( on an offenses part). It appears to be working and seems to agree philosophically with this defense. Pretty organised, somewhat chaotic.

 

we have been doing this for a while lol.

the difference is that players are executing better and have less mental errors.

none of this is new. 

[Edgar]

2 hours ago, Tru11 said:

we have been doing this for a while lol.

the difference is that players are executing better and have less mental errors.

none of this is new. 

Of course. Far more frequent this year and as you put forth,and as I alluded, done with more understanding and much more purposeful.

Not sure how one defines " organised chaos" as such, but I know this season appears a little more like it than the last few.

[Tru11]

31 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Of course. Far more frequent this year and as you put forth,and as I alluded, done with more understanding and much more purposeful.

Not sure how one defines " organised chaos" as such, but I know this season appears a little more like it than the last few.

you where not a ravens fan during the time rex for instance was calling the defense?

[Ravensfan23]

7 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

The defense said that Pees simplified a lot of things on defense and it looks to have worked so far. Don't get too fancy with it I guess.

 

7 hours ago, Tru11 said:

tell that to the fans who want exotic blitzes and organised chaos and such.....

Funny thing is, that's exactly what Rex believed in when he was here. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. As complex as the defense seemed it was very simple. It was the ability of guys to play multiple positions that made the defense special. Of course the ability of Ray and Ed to see the game the way they did helped as well. 

Fast forward to Pees and the biggest difference was how complex his defense was, especially from the Safety position. Ed helped simplify the defense and I think Weddle is doing the same thing. Simplifying the systems allows guys to play faster, but having guys who can perform has helped the most. 

[52liveforever]

Pees called an absolutely great game. All the way until the last drive. I don't blame pees for the loss however, that solely lies on the offense. They got the ball way too many times against the 2nd worst defense and didn't do anything 

[PurpleCity5]

Defense didn't do bad, but I would have like to see another turnover. 

The offense put them in awful spots. Flacco needs to show better awareness on that strip sack, not to mention that awful punt return. Shareece Wright was awful and should be benched after this game. 5 TD passes given up in the last two games... He needs to see the bench. 

[PurpleCity5]

We need to do something major at CB soon. 

[The Raven]

Can't blame Pees for Shareece Wright and Webb letting Mike slow-as-dirt Crabtree get behind them.

[52liveforever]

2 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

Defense didn't do bad, but I would have like to see another turnover. 

The offense put them in awful spots. Flacco needs to show better awareness on that strip sack, not to mention that awful punt return. Shareece Wright was awful and should be benched after this game. 5 TD passes given up in the last two games... He needs to see the bench. 

Um no.  Wright is doing fine. He's not doing great but I think if we start anyone else we see a lot worse.