The Good, Bad and Awful week 2 vs Browns.

[Edgar]

6 minutes ago, K-Dog said:

Unless someone slipped in the shower of fell out of the plane, we did well with the injuries today.

 

Otherwise,,,, is it too much to admit the Browns are actually a good team?  Is it too much to admit that their reputation as a team is pretty unwarranted ?  Not as an organization,,,, they fully own that.   Watching them today, I can't find a single thing about them that truly sucks or is truly awful.  I most certainly can think of worse QB's, more poris O-lines, weaker secondaries, and so on.  You get what I am saying.  I am  not saying the best by any means, or even top ten, but I can't point to anything and say " See ?  That is why the Browns suck. "
If you can I am all ears. ( or eyes since this is a message board )

Add Josh Gordon to their WR group.

[JEEPercreepermd]

The team took a little while to wake up today. However, they weathered the storm and fought back to earn the win. There's something to be said about doing that vs a division opponent in their house. 

 After the first quarter, the defense shut them out the rest of the way. 

 Joe had a so so game, the stat line 25 of 45 for 300 plus and 2tds isn't too shabby even with the two picks. To me it's pretty obvious that the offense hasn't clicked just yet, I'm giving Joe some leeway because he played exactly 4 quarters of real football since last November. .

 I think that the offense has some room to improve. The run game in particular needs to get rolling. Overall though, there is at least a ton of potential. Mike Wallace showing he's still got game. 

 Its only week 2 though, still a long road to go. 

[757RavensFan]

Another good; only 4 penalties for a total of 29 yards. 

[jboy19]

Flacco seems to still have a little bit of a chemistry issues with non-Pitta receivers, which is to be expected after his rehab. Except for the two picks, I thought it was a good enough day.

Run game is having issues, but with rookies at LT and LG that should be expected. Slight improvement from last week in my eyes.

Defense really stepped it up after a rough start. I think once the defense made some adjustments, things got better. 

ST was great with the FGs and the blocks. Hester gave us everything we could expect. 

The Browns caught the Ravens sleeping to start, but it's good to see the team finding ways to win instead of finding ways to lose. 

[ravensdfan]

2 hours ago, DomMcRaven said:

I don't know if anyone brought it up, but is it me or was the Browns WR's foot out on that TD?

I truly felt it was fairly obvious from the white dust that flew up but what do I know lol

2 hours ago, Doomville said:

well, that's as good a angle as you can have. The nfl sucks at these as usual.

Now I don't feel as badly about that taunting call.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Although this doesn't get said a lot regarding the opponents team, but McCown played courageously. MRI expected tomorrow (hope it's a okay). We faced an honorably opponent in came-out victorious. A solid win. I'll take it.    

[Tank 92]

Just now, jkm5bmore said:

Although this doesn't get said a lot regarding the opponents team, but McCown played courageously. MRI expected tomorrow (hope it's a okay). We faced an honorably opponent in came-out victorious. A solid win. I'll take it.    

Yeah, McCown is a gamer, ton of heart. Gotta believe he got a little help from the doc to keep on playing the way he did.

[Tank 92]

1 hour ago, Cillmatic said:

The MVP of this game was Timmy Jernigan, he was in the QB's face on almost every play, he pummeled McCown.

 

The Ref that called that BS taunting play comes in close second.

Gotta believe it was more than just tossing the ball. Guessing he was flapping his lips. 

[flynismo]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I think I heard this about Matt Cassell and Ryan Mallett also...

Yep, and not surprisingly, Cassell's career went down the toilet after he left NE's system. Mallet would have done the same most likey had he still been there.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

3 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

I truly felt it was fairly obvious from the white dust that flew up but what do I know lol

Now I don't feel as badly about that taunting call.

Apparently according to Cleveland Browns media the taunting was deliberate.

http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=44146&page=28

Pryor wants the coaches to address it, but Browns fan think it was intentional taunting. The refs on the the field apparently put insult with injury from something they saw and/or heard.

 

[ravensdfan]

9 minutes ago, jkm5bmore said:

Although this doesn't get said a lot regarding the opponents team, but McCown played courageously. MRI expected tomorrow (hope it's a okay). We faced an honorably opponent in came-out victorious. A solid win. I'll take it.    

He did. Stood in there and took the hits. Disagreed with the decision to let him play after he came out the 2nd time.

[OUravensfan]

No one is mentioning the Moore TD drop, I was dissappointed, it was a great throw by Flacco 

[JEEPercreepermd]

1 hour ago, chunkywill25 said:

Glad we have proof that the coleman catch was out of bounds. Tired of the Browns fans complaining about the taunting call. It's not a guarantee they would have scored but the coleman catch put 7 on the board for them 

The Brown's fans can complain about 1 call they want. 

 They had a 20-0 lead, allowed the extra point to get blocked, then were outscored 23-0 the rest of the game. With a 20 point lead, letting the game come down to a singular call points to a complete collapse on the Brown's behalf. 

 By the book, it actually was a plenty.  In that situation, it's unfortunate that a ref would make a tick tack call like that..but it was a penalty by the book. 

 I went to the bar once, left my license out in my truck for some odd reason. Bartender wouldn't serve me although I'm obviously in my 30's. He was doing his job. I was kind of upset that I had to walk two blocks to my vehicle and back in single digit temperatures. But by the book, he was right, I was wrong. I dealt with it.  

They should have never allowed the Ravens to get back into the game let alone take the lead.

[ravensdfan]

3 minutes ago, jkm5bmore said:

Apparently according to Cleveland Browns media the taunting was deliberate.

http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=44146&page=28

Pryor wants the coaches to address it, but Browns fan think it was intentional taunting. The refs on the the field apparently put insult with injury from something they saw and/or heard.

 

lol "Some players can spin the ball on the ground looking players in the face" Yeah I'm thinking it was intentional.

[ravensdfan]

3 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

No one is mentioning the Moore TD drop, I was dissappointed, it was a great throw by Flacco 

It's not getting mentioned because we won lol But yes, I agree. I thought that pass was a thing of beauty.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

16 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

lol "Some players can spin the ball on the ground looking players in the face" Yeah I'm thinking it was intentional.

Agreed. That's why Browns fans also believe it was deliberate taunting. Who comes-up with that knowing that if the ball is tossed in the direction of the defender (Torrey Smith in Playoffs against Patriots) that's an automatic taunting. They're calling it a 'coach-able moment'.

Edited September 19, 2016 by jkm5bmore
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[Willbacker]

7 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

No one is mentioning the Moore TD drop, I was dissappointed, it was a great throw by Flacco 

Good catch there.............well maybe not lol

[MrPlankton]

Really disappointed by Aiken seemingly going AWOL.

[Inqui]

1 minute ago, MrPlankton said:

Really disappointed by Aiken seemingly going AWOL.

I think that's more about other people stepping up. Aiken will have his games where he matches up better with the opponents than most of our other guys, but his quiet season so far is more about Sr, Pitta and Perriman returning, and Flacco instantly hitting it off with Wallace.

[Ravensfan23]

1 hour ago, jkm5bmore said:

Yet, you fail to mention the last Ravens(confusion) time-out and in-completion that resulted in the Browns not needing to call their last time-out earlier (before the 2 minute warning) in our last possession. That completely changed the dynamics of the game.

The what-ifs are great, but 'Situational Awareness' is another thing. In this case, if more offensive conservative play-calling would have been used before we got the lead (leading to Browns interception) and more aggressive play calling and clock-management would have been implored during our last drive to put the game away - our final defensive stance would not have been a nail-bitter. Too much time was left on the clock...period.

There's no way to predict outcomes based on the most trusted analytic methods, but how those last 2 offensive and 1 defensive series went only give the opponent a more likely opportunity to win the game. It is what it is. I'm just happy we won (CJ Mosley) in spite of those choices. 

No it didn't. The Browns would have still had nearly 3:00 to try and score. The way game played out they didn't use their final TO until :55 left on the clock because of injury. Which means the clock would have stoped anyway. With nearly 3:00 to work they still had plenty of time to run their offense the same exact way they did. 

I didn't fail to mention the in-completion Forsett and the TO taken had no impact because Forsett had already run out of bounds so the clock was stopped at 3:00. The only way that TO comes back to bite you is if the Browns score quickly and you have a minute or less to try and score without a TO. But yes the coaches definitely need to get the play in faster. 

I never said what if anything. Everything I listed actually played out. The Moore play actually happened, it was just taken away because of penalty. So where is the what ifs? You're the one who presented the biggest what if, there is no way of knowing that a FG that put the Ravens up by a measly 1 point would have broken the Browns defense or team for that matter. There is way too much time on the clock to settle for a 1 point lead midway through the 3rd quarter. Going up possibly by 7 points far more pressure on a struggling team than a 1 point lead. Flacco just took a shot and got beat by an All Pro. 

Again you are confusing with your views of the final drive. Why would the Ravens implore more aggressive play calling during the final drive if the situation calls for you to run out as much clock as you can? You call out the in-completion to Forsett as a negative play but you wanted more aggressive play calling? I don't get it. 

As i said before, you'd like to either complete that pass or run the ball to force the Browns hand in calling a TO, but no more clock would have come off the clock there because the Browns would have just spent their final TO and still have about 2:50 to work on the final drive. So the situation say that you can call a playaction pass there and hope to sneak your TE behind the LBs who you expect to be reading run, to pick up the 1st down but at the very least run clock to force the Browns hand. So other than picking up the 1st down there, the Browns would have had the time anyway. 

 

[GamingRaven92]

29 minutes ago, JEEPercreepermd said:

The Brown's fans can complain about 1 call they want. 

 They had a 20-0 lead, allowed the extra point to get blocked, then were outscored 23-0 the rest of the game. With a 20 point lead, letting the game come down to a singular call points to a complete collapse on the Brown's behalf. 

 By the book, it actually was a plenty.  In that situation, it's unfortunate that a ref would make a tick tack call like that..but it was a penalty by the book. 

 I went to the bar once, left my license out in my truck for some odd reason. Bartender wouldn't serve me although I'm obviously in my 30's. He was doing his job. I was kind of upset that I had to walk two blocks to my vehicle and back in single digit temperatures. But by the book, he was right, I was wrong. I dealt with it.  

They should have never allowed the Ravens to get back into the game let alone take the lead.

exactly, not to mention their missed field goals which would of put them ahead during other opportunities. they can blame this 1 call all they want but after the 1st quarter, they just never showed up.

[terps85]

31 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

No one is mentioning the Moore TD drop, I was dissappointed, it was a great throw by Flacco 

Tough to call it a great throw as he was wide open.  As taboo as it is here for whatever reason, I would call it a great call by Trestman.

[Steve0x]

That safety was the difference maker. If that extra point was good it would been  23-20 and browns might had tied it on late field goal. 

Edited September 19, 2016 by Steve0x

[BigMike]

We won...2-0...good night

[-Truth-]

1 hour ago, Cville-Raven said:

*facepalm

how do angles work?

Looking like the same pair.

[Steve0x]

1 minute ago, BigMike said:

We won...2-0...good night

night

[Cville-Raven]

2 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

Looking like the same pair.

Yup, but are they pointy? 

[-Truth-]

17 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

Yup, but are they pointy? 

As pointy as the dunce caps that should be handed out.

Edited September 19, 2016 by -Truth-

[Cville-Raven]

3 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

As pointy as the dunce caps that should be handed up.

lol brutal

[OUravensfan]

2 hours ago, chunkywill25 said:

Glad we have proof that the coleman catch was out of bounds. Tired of the Browns fans complaining about the taunting call. It's not a guarantee they would have scored but the coleman catch put 7 on the board for them 

 

1 hour ago, jboy19 said:

Flacco seems to still have a little bit of a chemistry issues with non-Pitta receivers, which is to be expected after his rehab. Except for the two picks, I thought it was a good enough day.

Run game is having issues, but with rookies at LT and LG that should be expected. Slight improvement from last week in my eyes.

Defense really stepped it up after a rough start. I think once the defense made some adjustments, things got better. 

ST was great with the FGs and the blocks. Hester gave us everything we could expect. 

The Browns caught the Ravens sleeping to start, but it's good to see the team finding ways to win instead of finding ways to lose. 

 

1 hour ago, ravensdfan said:

I truly felt it was fairly obvious from the white dust that flew up but what do I know lol

Now I don't feel as badly about that taunting call.

Agree, glad we have that to show in defense of that excuse. We left a lot on the field but as you say we found a way to win which is a stark contrast from last year. 

 

We are 2-0