The Good, Bad and Awful week 2 vs Browns.

[-Truth-]

So much credit goes out to the team for not packing it in after the woeful beginning. This was a terrific victory and I'm proud of our resolve. There were a few moments that turned my face pale, a la Shareece Wright lining up 10 yards off of Corey Coleman on 4th and 4. But they made the outcome that much sweeter.

[hen826957]

24 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

Looking like the same pair.

Wow good picture. Yep he was definitely on the chalk. It shouldn't have been a touchdown. You had a better picture than they probably did in the booth. ?

[Inqui]

Just now, -Truth- said:

So much credit goes out to the team for not packing it in after the woeful beginning. This was a terrific victory and I'm proud of our resolve. There were a few moments that turned my face pale, a la Shareece Wright lining up 10 yards off of Corey Coleman on 4th and 4. But they made the outcome that much sweeter.

That's some Lombardi-winning stuff. If we can show that kind of mettle every week (our week eight bye aside....) then there's no reason why we can't make a lot of noise late in the season.

And that Coleman TD shows why you can't use the ref as an excuse for a loss, even when they completely bottle a call or two.

[OUravensfan]

Flacco was pretty good considering the dropped TD and penalty that called back the throw to the 1 yard line

[ravensdfan]

I forgot: The Ugly: Game Thread disappearing while we're all in melt down mode

That was just cruel!

[Cville-Raven]

7 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

Wow good picture. Yep he was definitely on the chalk. It shouldn't have been a touchdown. You had a better picture than they probably did in the booth. ?

It's why pylon cameras need to be fully adopted by the NFL 

[hen826957]

2 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

Flacco was pretty good considering the dropped TD and penalty that called back the throw to the 1 yard line

I think Joe played pretty well to be honest instead for those interceptions. The first interception from Haden was horrible but the second one l can understand. Perriman should've did a better job trying to make a play at it or break it up.

[Ravenseconbeast]

1 minute ago, hen826957 said:

I think Joe played pretty well to be honest instead for those interceptions. The first interception from Haden was horrible but the second one l can understand. Perriman should've did a better job trying to make a play at it or break it up.

 

In other words, flacco can do no wrong.   

[CalvinSmoke]

I haven't ready most of these responses... but if special teams wasn't mentioned as a Good, I'm going to be very disappointing. They were consistent all game, from the blocked extra point, to the great field position (That was rarely taken advantage of) special teams had a very good day. 

[Edgar]

Ravens were not penalized much. No silly late hits and I don't remember any PI.

[January J]

Sooo how many of y'all said Pitta was done?  Said he should hang em up and that we were stacked at the position ? Meanwhile he's at the top of the depth chart - leads the team in receiving yards & receptions - and picking up right where he left off. Tried to tell y'all not to write him off.

[rmw10]

26 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

I think Joe played pretty well to be honest instead for those interceptions. The first interception from Haden was horrible but the second one l can understand. Perriman should've did a better job trying to make a play at it or break it up.

You hope Perriman fights a little more, but that was on Flacco. Not a great throw and not a good decision either. Can't throw with a CB that tight in coverage, especially when that CB is Haden. 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

1 hour ago, Ravensfan23 said:

No it didn't. The Browns would have still had nearly 3:00 to try and score. The way game played out they didn't use their final TO until :55 left on the clock because of injury. Which means the clock would have stoped anyway. With nearly 3:00 to work they still had plenty of time to run their offense the same exact way they did. 

I didn't fail to mention the in-completion Forsett and the TO taken had no impact because Forsett had already run out of bounds so the clock was stopped at 3:00. The only way that TO comes back to bite you is if the Browns score quickly and you have a minute or less to try and score without a TO. But yes the coaches definitely need to get the play in faster. 

You're a Moderator that I truly respect but, I don't agree on the 1st points, but the 'coaches delay' was critical and the play-call (At that point of the game) was just as critical. An estimated 1 minute to 1:30+ clock burn-off resulted.

• Why be overly aggressive (3rd Quarter) and give up a potential field goal attempt (Browns int) to take the lead prior to our last possession?
• (A 3pt field (Tucker give-me) goal would have sufficed and changed everything going into the 4th quarter.
• Why risk an in-completion (4th Quarter) when clock management is absolutely the focus? Browns were down with 1 timeout remaining.
  Run 3 times and gain nothing - use at least 1 minute 15 seconds off the clock or force them to use their final time-out before the 2 min. warning. Tucker still makes it from that distance.
• Why not have enough foresight to run the ball and/or not throw the ball out-of-bounds to stop the clock (take a sack if necessary) when the clock is your friend? (Tucker could make that kick with 5+ yards added easily). We would have been better off (clock-wise) if just taking a knee if no one's absolutely open, but why attempt to pass?
• Why play soft passive coverage and not aggressively rushing the QB (worked most of the game) on the early Browns last possessions (when they are running out of time with an injured QB)?

Our 'Situational Awareness' unfortunately does need tweaking (especially during 'crunch-times). The basic game strategies were sound, good coaching scenarios, but our 3rd quarter decisions leading to the Browns int. that secured their lead at the time (too risky when we just need 3) and subsequently our last offensive possession (too aggressive for clock management) and passiveness of last defensive possession in the early downs only... made this a 'nail bitter'. We've had these (Situational Management) issues before like most teams, but it still need tweaking. We still won. I'm happy.

Edited September 19, 2016 by jkm5bmore
3rd and 4th Quarters

[Inqui]

6 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

You hope Perriman fights a little more, but that was on Flacco. Not a great throw and not a good decision either. Can't throw with a CB that tight in coverage, especially when that CB is Haden. 

Yeah, that was a horrible throw and a horrible choice by Joe - especially in the red zone when all you need to do to take the lead is not turn it over.

I actually saw Perriman fight to break up two almost-INTs today, so I thought he did better than a lot of guys we've had in the past. It was nice to see.

[hen826957]

26 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

You hope Perriman fights a little more, but that was on Flacco. Not a great throw and not a good decision either. Can't throw with a CB that tight in coverage, especially when that CB is Haden. 

Yeah l agree. ?

[Steve0x]

If we erased the first quarter it would have been 23-0 shutout

[Deflated Football]

That dropped pass by Moore that would've led to a touchdown really bummed me out. I hope he doesn't lose confidence over that. 

[ellicottraven]

18 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

If we erased the first quarter it would have been 23-0 shutout

But then if the Browns erased the final 3 quarters it would be a 20-0 shutout too.

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

You hope Perriman fights a little more, but that was on Flacco. Not a great throw and not a good decision either. Can't throw with a CB that tight in coverage, especially when that CB is Haden. 

The problem with that throw was Haden had great inside position against Perriman and Flacco's throw was thrown to the inside of Perriman. He had no chance because he was boxed out with no hope of making that catch. Poor throw by Flacco on that one.

[ellicottraven]

How about that Michael Pierce? That guy is a literal bull that sees red every snap! He's going to be the steal of this entire draft. Mark my words. By season's end he'll be the talk of the town. An amazing penetrating DT that is stout against the run as well.

[jboy19]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

You hope Perriman fights a little more, but that was on Flacco. Not a great throw and not a good decision either. Can't throw with a CB that tight in coverage, especially when that CB is Haden. 

I'm thinking that was more of a chemistry issue than an accuracy iszue. Should be something that improves weekly. 

[OUravensfan]

34 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

That dropped pass by Moore that would've led to a touchdown really bummed me out. I hope he doesn't lose confidence over that. 

I agree 

[Tornado700]

I'm still recovering from the stress of this game. I agree that the run game is non-existant. That can be fixed. The defense shut the Browns down in three quarters. Add that to last weeks game, and it is 5 quarters in 2 games shut out, Not bad.

[jboy19]

4 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

I agree 

I think he got overthrown a little, doubt he's too upset. 

[Cville-Raven]

38 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

That dropped pass by Moore that would've led to a touchdown really bummed me out. I hope he doesn't lose confidence over that. 

I doubt it. He caught a huge pass that would have put us at the 1 yard line but it got wiped because of a dumb penalty at the line.

[PurpleHorseman]

 

    Offense is really coming along. When Dixon and Moore get comfortable the offense could be something special. Zuttah has got to go. He is hurting our run game. Anybody like urschel at Center?

[Jacquouille]

Just wanted to point something out: why run inside when they have Shelton (their best player aside from Haden) and not try to bounce it outside when they have two rookies at OLB? Fortunately West had that idea at the end and of course that were his best runs.

[arnie_uk]

7 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I think I heard this about Matt Cassell and Ryan Mallett also...

Doesn't that support the system argument?

[Hot rum]

The good: joes chemistry with mike Wallace is getting better the fact that he is friends with pitta should be a plus but hopefully he is not sacrificing  throwing to other players just to make pitta look good

Shutting down cleavland in quarters 2,3,4 was great by the defense 

 

The bad :where is buck allen we need to move forsett to the bench its a run committee right so since forsett was terrible two weeks in a row that means he sits right? Omg we need dixon back. Please sit justin and give allen a chance, West is fine!  

 

JOE tighten up please youve got to spread the ball around

The Ugly: defense What the heck? happened really you give ip 20 in first quarter? 

Look we got lucky had that been New England  or Carolina wed have been toast

Is it Webb in the middle is that the problem?

 

Good win hopefully good learning experience 

[Steve0x]

And most of people here gave up on Ravens after the first quarter ended. I didn't give up,,I told y'all after that blocked extra point this was a wake up call for ravens. The momentum has shifted for the Ravens. I hope some of you learned something today. I have seen games simalar like this.