2016-2017 Coaching Carousel

[RaineV1]

11 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

 

Technically, reading the article it says Dan Quinn has announced to the Falcons coaches that he was going to be their next Head Coach. There hasn't been a formal announcement which can't be done until after the Super Bowl. Schefter says per the rules 49ers must wait until Friday to conduct their second interview(per the request of the Falcons). 

Ah. So everything is set up, but Shanahan just has to wait until after the Super bowl to sign the contract.

[Inqui]

7 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

Yeah. While you can interview coaches that are with teams still active in the playoffs you can't hire them until that team is completely done for the season (either losing in the playoffs or winning the Super Bowl). I'm not sure how the 49ers are getting away with this, unless they found some technicality.

I imagine it's one of those rules that relies on the other team taking it up with the league office. Iirc Steve Bisciotti technically broke some tampering rules a couple of years ago when he made some minor off-the-cuff comments after we traded Haloti, but the Lions didn't complain about it so nothing became of it.

[JO_75]

Colts have requested permission to interview our assistant GM, Eric DeCosta. Rotoworld notes that he is close friends with Pagano and I could see Pagano trying to make a pitch to Eric to go to Indy. I wouldn't want to see it but I've always wondered how much longer Eric is willing to wait to on Ozzie to retire and if he would grow impatient and go elsewhere before Ozzie retired.

[berad]

12 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

Colts have requested permission to interview our assistant GM, Eric DeCosta. Rotoworld notes that he is close friends with Pagano and I could see Pagano trying to make a pitch to Eric to go to Indy. I wouldn't want to see it but I've always wondered how much longer Eric is willing to wait to on Ozzie to retire and if he would grow impatient and go elsewhere before Ozzie retired.

It'd be tempting for him, sure. But he's hung on this long, I'm sure he and Ozzie have an understanding.

[JO_75]

3 minutes ago, berad said:

It'd be tempting for him, sure. But he's hung on this long, I'm sure he and Ozzie have an understanding.

That's a good point, plus didn't we give him a raise that essentially pays him like a General Manager a while back? Honestly, who wouldn't want to go be the GM of Indy where you already have a Franchise QB in place with Luck and all DeCosta has to do is what Grigson failed to do, build a team around him. 

[darklight1216]

50 minutes ago, berad said:

It'd be tempting for him, sure. But he's hung on this long, I'm sure he and Ozzie have an understanding.

It might be even more than that. Maybe he already has a significant amount of control. 

[Ravenseconbeast]

3 hours ago, JO_75 said:

Colts have requested permission to interview our assistant GM, Eric DeCosta. Rotoworld notes that he is close friends with Pagano and I could see Pagano trying to make a pitch to Eric to go to Indy. I wouldn't want to see it but I've always wondered how much longer Eric is willing to wait to on Ozzie to retire and if he would grow impatient and go elsewhere before Ozzie retired.

 

If Pagano does not make the playoffs and win at 1 game, his fired.   Just knowing that Pagano has defense expertise and letting his team go become on the worst defense in the league is not acceptable.   

Eric will stay.  I'm sure of it.

[DomMcRaven]

3 hours ago, JO_75 said:

That's a good point, plus didn't we give him a raise that essentially pays him like a General Manager a while back? Honestly, who wouldn't want to go be the GM of Indy where you already have a Franchise QB in place with Luck and all DeCosta has to do is what Grigson failed to do, build a team around him. 

Find yourself another candidate, Colts. We aren't your farm...

[Inqui]

24 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

Find yourself another candidate, Colts. We aren't your farm...

I'm just waiting for the Lions to fire their GM and come knocking.

[DomMcRaven]

2 minutes ago, Inqui said:

I'm just waiting for the Lions to fire their GM and come knocking.

Speaking of farming teams, Ravens South aka the Texans need to hand us JJ Watt and get it over with. It is only just.

[JO_75]

28 minutes ago, Inqui said:

I'm just waiting for the Lions to fire their GM and come knocking.

They just hired him last year.... 

 

25 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

Speaking of farming teams, Ravens South aka the Texans need to hand us JJ Watt and get it over with. It is only just.

JJ Watt and DeAndre Hopkins for 6th and 7th Round picks. I mean their GM is dumb enough to give Osweiler $72M so we could fool him easily to thinking it's a great trade.

[ludy51]

13 hours ago, DomMcRaven said:

Speaking of farming teams, Ravens South aka the Texans need to hand us JJ Watt and get it over with. It is only just.

I haven't quite forgiven them yet for John Simon

[AsianRice]

15 hours ago, JO_75 said:

They just hired him last year.... 

 

JJ Watt and DeAndre Hopkins for 6th and 7th Round picks. I mean their GM is dumb enough to give Osweiler $72M so we could fool him easily to thinking it's a great trade.

wouldn't be surprised if this ever happens.....

[berad]

19 hours ago, darklight1216 said:

It might be even more than that. Maybe he already has a significant amount of control. 

Definitely, I'm sure of it.

[52520Andrew]

Yeah I pretty much view Ozzie and DeCosta as co-gms at this point.

[VermontRaven]

Interesting...on the Colts page on ESPN, there is no mention of DeCosta when discussing GM candidates:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/ind/indianapolis-colts

 

Mike Wells ESPN Staff Writer 

Here's the list of names that has been reported that the Colts have requested permission to interview or plan to interview for their general manager position: Colts vice president of football operations Jimmy Raye III, Green Bay director of football operations Eliot Wolf, Kansas City director of player personnel Chris Ballard, Seattle co-directors of pro personnel Scott Fitterer and Trent Kirchner and Minnesota assistant general manager George Paton.

 

Mike Wells ESPN Staff Writer 

The Colts announce six candidates will interview for the vacant GM job. Chris Ballard (KC) Scott Fitterer (SEA) Trent Kirchner (SEA) George Paton (MIN) Jimmy Raye III (IND) Eliot Wolf (GB)

[allblackraven]

22 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

Interesting...on the Colts page on ESPN, there is no mention of DeCosta when discussing GM candidates:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/ind/indianapolis-colts

 

Mike Wells ESPN Staff Writer 

Here's the list of names that has been reported that the Colts have requested permission to interview or plan to interview for their general manager position: Colts vice president of football operations Jimmy Raye III, Green Bay director of football operations Eliot Wolf, Kansas City director of player personnel Chris Ballard, Seattle co-directors of pro personnel Scott Fitterer and Trent Kirchner and Minnesota assistant general manager George Paton.

 

Mike Wells ESPN Staff Writer 

The Colts announce six candidates will interview for the vacant GM job. Chris Ballard (KC) Scott Fitterer (SEA) Trent Kirchner (SEA) George Paton (MIN) Jimmy Raye III (IND) Eliot Wolf (GB)

DeCosta told them he's not interested?

[DomMcRaven]

The moment Ozzie retires (not saying that I WANT it to happen) is the moment DeCosta becomes our GM. Can't be convinced with anything else. 

[Rav'n Maniac]

6 hours ago, ludy51 said:

I haven't quite forgiven them yet for John Simon

How about Jamie Sharper and Jermaine Lewis in the expansion draft?

[JO_75]

I'm starting to think if Marvin Lewis keeps getting extensions, it's going to cut close on Grigson wasting away Luck the way he was before he was finally fired. With the Bengals wasting away the potential of Andy Dalton and wasting AJ Green's career by the time they fire Lewis and finally move on, it will be too late. 

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“We’d like to agree to something at some point,” Lewis said, per the Cincinnati Enquirer. “It puts, I think, everybody’s mind at ease going forward for their futures. A lot of the people in the building, it makes it easier on them.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/25/marvin-lewis-says-an-extension-would-benefit-the-bengals-organization/

[RaineV1]

5 hours ago, JO_75 said:

I'm starting to think if Marvin Lewis keeps getting extensions, it's going to cut close on Grigson wasting away Luck the way he was before he was finally fired. With the Bengals wasting away the potential of Andy Dalton and wasting AJ Green's career by the time they fire Lewis and finally move on, it will be too late. 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/25/marvin-lewis-says-an-extension-would-benefit-the-bengals-organization/

He already wasted Carson Palmer's prime years. I think how awful they were before Marvin Lewis is what scaring them into keeping him. But they likely won't win a Super Bowl with him as the HC.

[52520Andrew]

12 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

He already wasted Carson Palmer's prime years. I think how awful they were before Marvin Lewis is what scaring them into keeping him. But they likely won't win a Super Bowl with him as the HC.

I don't know if they can even win a playoff game with him as head coach

[JO_75]

Packers Associate Head Coach/Offense Tom Clements is leaving the Packers to pursue other opportunities. Mike McCarthy confirms this will be the only change to their coaching staff, so Dom Capers is staying.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/26/tom-clements-leaving-packers-to-pursue-other-interests/

[JO_75]

Chiefs Director of Football Operations Chris Ballard is the favorite to become the Colts GM. It should be noted Ballard wants to replace Chuck Pagano as Head Coach. 

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/353962/chris-ballard-clear-favorite-to-be-colts-gm?ls=roto:KC:topheadlines

[Willbacker]

On ‎1‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 2:05 PM, JO_75 said:

Packers Associate Head Coach/Offense Tom Clements is leaving the Packers to pursue other opportunities. Mike McCarthy confirms this will be the only change to their coaching staff, so Dom Capers is staying.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/26/tom-clements-leaving-packers-to-pursue-other-interests/

Lord only knows why they keep Capers but they gonna be battling for DBs just like us.

8 hours ago, JO_75 said:

Chiefs Director of Football Operations Chris Ballard is the favorite to become the Colts GM. It should be noted Ballard wants to replace Chuck Pagano as Head Coach. 

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/353962/chris-ballard-clear-favorite-to-be-colts-gm?ls=roto:KC:topheadlines

It'd be nice if we can get him as our DB coach with the understanding that he'd be immediately upgraded to DC when Pees officially retires. Maybe even HC lol.

[JO_75]

On 1/28/2017 at 11:53 AM, Willbacker said:

Lord only knows why they keep Capers but they gonna be battling for DBs just like us.

It'd be nice if we can get him as our DB coach with the understanding that he'd be immediately upgraded to DC when Pees officially retires. Maybe even HC lol.

That be nice but I think we just filled all the vacancies on the coaching staff. Reports are conflicting though as one says Pagano will stay on at least for this year if Ballard is hired. Another report says if Ballard becomes the Colts GM, he wants to replace Pagano with Chiefs Special Teams Coach Dave Toub. After Harb's success here, I'm surprised it took this long for another ST coach to potentially become a Head Coach.

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/chris-ballard-dave-toub-head-coach-colts/347816

[JO_75]

Colts officially name Chris Ballard new General Manager. So now the question comes, does Pagano go now or do the Colts wait until 2018 to hire Dave Toub?

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/353998/colts-officially-name-chris-ballard-as-new-gm?ls=roto:IND:topheadlines

[JO_75]

The 49ers have found  a General Manager.  According to Adam Schefter,  former NFL Safety John Lynch will become the 49ers new GM. 

 

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  5m5 minutes ago

49ers are giving John Lynch an almost unprecedented six-year deal to become their GM, per sources.

Edited January 30 by JO_75

[berad]

15 hours ago, JO_75 said:

The 49ers have found  a General Manager.  According to Adam Schefter,  former NFL Safety John Lynch will become the 49ers new GM. 

 

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  5m5 minutes ago

49ers are giving John Lynch an almost unprecedented six-year deal to become their GM, per sources.

Jed York strikes again. We'll see where this goes.

[JO_75]

3 minutes ago, berad said:

Jed York strikes again. We'll see where this goes.

It's not just Lynch, but Kyle Shanahan is getting a 6 year deal as well. Tying them both together but man if they get fired after 2-3 years, Jed will still be paying them for another 3-4 years.