Three Ravens who will get better as the season progresses?

[ellicottraven]

I'm going to go with 3 not so popular choices here:

Michael Pierce - I think he is going to become a very good run stopping and penetrating D tackles by the end of the year and will prove indispensable.

Shareece Wright - Will end up being our best CB by season's end either due to injury concerns of Jimmy or simply outplaying and outperforming him.

Alex Smith - Will become entrenched as our LG for the foreseeable future by combining with Stanley to form a solid tandem on the Left side.

As for the common choices, I think Flacco, Pitta, SSS, Perriman on offense and Webb, Weddle (will be considered the best safety tandem by season's end), Matt Judon and Zachary Orr will shine beyond expectations.

[PurpleCity5]

1 hour ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

yea i was surprised too, but i dont think he saw the field at all. I think just some ST snaps for him. He didnt seem to impress much during the PS for them.... which is odd bc everyone was saying that hes an immediate contributor - maybe the best ready made defender in the draft. It was the long-term prospects, him being able to stay at the high level for an entire career that seemed to be the worry.

But, so far, he hasnt won any time. And its not like theyre stacked at the position. Ill admit i was a little upset when we passed on him and Spence, but with how the picks we acquired in the trade backs are panning out, and seeing what Jack/Spence have done thus far - looks like Ozzie and Co knew what they were doing.

I'll take Correa, Judon and Moore over either Spence or Jack. 

Judon and Moore are both popular candidates in this thread, and to be regular contributors this year. The others may not play much.

Yeah, I thought he would be in for a Pro Bowl season if he was able to play. Shocking to say the least.

Ozzie and the Front Office did know what they were doing and I'm happy they got Judon and Moore here. It just shows that they're qualified at what they do and they made the right call. I'd take all three of those guys as well over Spence or Jack. 

[GrimCoconut]

53 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

I'm going to go with 3 not so popular choices here:

Michael Pierce - I think he is going to become a very good run stopping and penetrating D tackles by the end of the year and will prove indispensable.

Shareece Wright - Will end up being our best CB by season's end either due to injury concerns of Jimmy or simply outplaying and outperforming him.

Alex Smith - Will become entrenched as our LG for the foreseeable future by combining with Stanley to form a solid tandem on the Left side.

As for the common choices, I think Flacco, Pitta, SSS, Perriman on offense and Webb, Weddle (will be considered the best safety tandem by season's end), Matt Judon and Zachary Orr will shine beyond expectations.

I hope we didn't trade for Alex Smith.  We definitely don't need him.  

Let me throw another name out there: Correa. I think he'll progress as the season goes on.  

[cobrajet]

Alex Lewis is going to be force as he gets more experience at left guard, especially in the run game with his size. I think he could become a road grader.

If Dennis Pitta can stay healthy and build some of that old chemistry with Joe, look out.

Mike Wallace seems like he is very happy to be here. That is very important, as Joe will start to look to him to continue to make those impressive catches and take them to the house. I don't think he was a good fit in Miami and Minnesota but as the season progresses he could end up becoming the top receiver on this team, no disrespect to SSS.

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

I hope we didn't trade for Alex Smith.  We definitely don't need him.  

Let me throw another name out there: Correa. I think he'll progress as the season goes on.  

Thanks for bringing up a mental slip in the classiest way possible! Yes we'll refrain from trading for Alex Smith but Alex Lewis we'll keep. I don't know about Correa  because after Arthur Brown, I'm apprehensive about our 2nd round linebackers on defense. Also, the fact that he didn't take any defensive snaps tells me he isn't ready to take snaps yet and only contributed on special teams. But, you never know he may suddenly explode into a real player. Jernigan on the contrary is a home run but again he isn't a LBer.

[Wildabeast88]

20 hours ago, Darhk_Raven said:

It is a little concerning, but he isn't the only second rounder that only played special teams.

At least it's better than the number 1 pick as inactive that's worse

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I hope we didn't trade for Alex Smith.  We definitely don't need him.  

Let me throw another name out there: Correa. I think he'll progress as the season goes on.  

I'll echo correa. I see too much talent, fire, IQ, and instincts for him to be a scratch all year.

I'm honestly shocked he has contributed so little. I knew he was very developmental but I thought his athleticism alone would at least get him in on some blitz or coverage packages.

[GrimCoconut]

2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Thanks for bringing up a mental slip in the classiest way possible! Yes we'll refrain from trading for Alex Smith but Alex Lewis we'll keep. I don't know about Correa  because after Arthur Brown, I'm apprehensive about our 2nd round linebackers on defense. Also, the fact that he didn't take any defensive snaps tells me he isn't ready to take snaps yet and only contributed on special teams. But, you never know he may suddenly explode into a real player. Jernigan on the contrary is a home run but again he isn't a LBer.

Lol no worries. Everyone makes mistakes. I thought it was a funny slip-up, myself. Anyway, yeah, I am also a bit apprehensive on Correa but you never know until he hits the field. They said great things about him in camp but he cooled off really hard ever since that Pitta altercation so I don't know. I hope he has a case of the Torrey Smith's--you know, looked rather ho-hum in the preseason but explodes in the regular season. That'd be swell! 

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'll echo correa. I see too much talent, fire, IQ, and instincts for him to be a scratch all year.

I'm honestly shocked he has contributed so little. I knew he was very developmental but I thought his athleticism alone would at least get him in on some blitz or coverage packages.

I see talent but I didn't see the fire on the field in preseason but we heard about it in training camp so here's hoping he turns it on and is the guy we think he can be. I'm not really shocked because he needed work, but I do hope he can step in and fill the void. 

[Maryland]

38 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Lol no worries. Everyone makes mistakes. I thought it was a funny slip-up, myself. Anyway, yeah, I am also a bit apprehensive on Correa but you never know until he hits the field. They said great things about him in camp but he cooled off really hard ever since that Pitta altercation so I don't know. I hope he has a case of the Torrey Smith's--you know, looked rather ho-hum in the preseason but explodes in the regular season. That'd be swell! 

I see talent but I didn't see the fire on the field in preseason but we heard about it in training camp so here's hoping he turns it on and is the guy we think he can be. I'm not really shocked because he needed work, but I do hope he can step in and fill the void. 

Torrey exploded in week 2 after doing nothing week 1, iirc

That's a good historical comparison, I hope  

[BmoreBird22]

15 minutes ago, Maryland said:

Torrey exploded in week 2 after doing nothing week 1, iirc

That's a good historical comparison, I hope  

Week three, I believe

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Lol no worries. Everyone makes mistakes. I thought it was a funny slip-up, myself. Anyway, yeah, I am also a bit apprehensive on Correa but you never know until he hits the field. They said great things about him in camp but he cooled off really hard ever since that Pitta altercation so I don't know. I hope he has a case of the Torrey Smith's--you know, looked rather ho-hum in the preseason but explodes in the regular season. That'd be swell! 

I see talent but I didn't see the fire on the field in preseason but we heard about it in training camp so here's hoping he turns it on and is the guy we think he can be. I'm not really shocked because he needed work, but I do hope he can step in and fill the void. 

hoping so too. he has an extremely high ceiling and for all the right reasons, and a very low floor, but his ceiling attributes are uncoachable, and his floor attributes are, so it is encouraging. 

i have to wonder if the pitta and flacco debacle made him dial it down 10 whole notches, all we heard about was this dog out there lighting dudes up and making plays in coverage, and then in preseason he looked rather timid. i have to wonder if hes either intimidated under the lights or if the coaches told him slow it down a notch because he isnt gonna start and he has time to really soak up some coaching.

[redrum52]

3 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Week three, I believe

Week 3.  First 3 went for tds I think.

[52liveforever]

11 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Thanks for bringing up a mental slip in the classiest way possible! Yes we'll refrain from trading for Alex Smith but Alex Lewis we'll keep. I don't know about Correa  because after Arthur Brown, I'm apprehensive about our 2nd round linebackers on defense. Also, the fact that he didn't take any defensive snaps tells me he isn't ready to take snaps yet and only contributed on special teams. But, you never know he may suddenly explode into a real player. Jernigan on the contrary is a home run but again he isn't a LBer.

I'd pay to see Alex Smith playing OG as long as its not for the ravens.

[52liveforever]

5 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

hoping so too. he has an extremely high ceiling and for all the right reasons, and a very low floor, but his ceiling attributes are uncoachable, and his floor attributes are, so it is encouraging. 

i have to wonder if the pitta and flacco debacle made him dial it down 10 whole notches, all we heard about was this dog out there lighting dudes up and making plays in coverage, and then in preseason he looked rather timid. i have to wonder if hes either intimidated under the lights or if the coaches told him slow it down a notch because he isnt gonna start and he has time to really soak up some coaching.

Yeah, I often wonder why he cooled so much seemingly so fast.  It's like after the Pitta incident we stopped hearing about him and he plummeted down the depth chart.  Makes you wonder if he flipped the switch off during practices and just wasn't looking good because he wasn't being himself and tumbled down the depth chart.  Going from practicing with the ones to being at the bottom of the depth chart could've really messed with his confidence as well.  I feel like the only way to give him that fire back is to get him on the field and let him make some plays, but if he plays without fire until that time is it worth it if there are guys that are playing better?

 

It's a difficult position for a coach.  Put the guys who are playing better and give you a better chance of making plays or put the guy who is in a psychological rut hoping he might make a play.

[JoeyFlex5]

41 minutes ago, 52liveforever said:

Yeah, I often wonder why he cooled so much seemingly so fast.  It's like after the Pitta incident we stopped hearing about him and he plummeted down the depth chart.  Makes you wonder if he flipped the switch off during practices and just wasn't looking good because he wasn't being himself and tumbled down the depth chart.  Going from practicing with the ones to being at the bottom of the depth chart could've really messed with his confidence as well.  I feel like the only way to give him that fire back is to get him on the field and let him make some plays, but if he plays without fire until that time is it worth it if there are guys that are playing better?

 

It's a difficult position for a coach.  Put the guys who are playing better and give you a better chance of making plays or put the guy who is in a psychological rut hoping he might make a play.

unfortunately(or fortunately? idk) ravens coaches arent in the the therapy business, theyre out there to win, not to get a 21 year old making millions out of a psychological rut. 

would be nice if there wasnt liability to worry about and we could take those guys and just trot em out there, who knows what game reps and confidence wouldve done for guys like arthur brown and terrence brooks, you just dont have that luxury in a win now league.

[Somerset Ravens]

11 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'll echo correa. I see too much talent, fire, IQ, and instincts for him to be a scratch all year.

I'm honestly shocked he has contributed so little. I knew he was very developmental but I thought his athleticism alone would at least get him in on some blitz or coverage packages.

I am looking forward to Correa being a contributor on defense. His athleticism is evident but I do not see the fire and IQ you mention. In preseason he seemed lost. Where you referring to his college play ??

[BmoreBird22]

7 hours ago, redrum52 said:

Week 3.  First 3 went for tds I think.

Yes. First ever rookie to score three touchdowns in a quarter.

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

unfortunately(or fortunately? idk) ravens coaches arent in the the therapy business, theyre out there to win, not to get a 21 year old making millions out of a psychological rut. 

would be nice if there wasnt liability to worry about and we could take those guys and just trot em out there, who knows what game reps and confidence wouldve done for guys like arthur brown and terrence brooks, you just dont have that luxury in a win now league.

Actually, there are sports psychologist and I'm sure the Ravens employ a few 

[cobrajet]

3 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Yes. First ever rookie to score three touchdowns in a quarter.

I'll never forget that Rams game when Torrey broke onto the scene. I was like. "WOW this kid can ball!" He did nothing in preseason and I had my doubts, but he proved himself that day.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

6 hours ago, Somerset Ravens said:

I am looking forward to Correa being a contributor on defense. His athleticism is evident but I do not see the fire and IQ you mention. In preseason he seemed lost. Where you referring to his college play ??

Yeah college. Plus all the reports of TC before he seemingly fell off the face of the earth with the pitta scuffle.

[Maryland]

11 hours ago, cobrajet said:

I'll never forget that Rams game when Torrey broke onto the scene. I was like. "WOW this kid can ball!" He did nothing in preseason and I had my doubts, but he proved himself that day.

 

I'll never forget drafting him in fantasy for $1 (auction league), dropping him just before his big game, and then buying him back off waivers for $15 ($100 waiver budget for the year) lol

[Halshayeji]

On September 16, 2016 at 11:05 PM, ellicottraven said:

I'm going to go with 3 not so popular choices here:

Michael Pierce - I think he is going to become a very good run stopping and penetrating D tackles by the end of the year and will prove indispensable.

Shareece Wright - Will end up being our best CB by season's end either due to injury concerns of Jimmy or simply outplaying and outperforming him.

Alex Smith - Will become entrenched as our LG for the foreseeable future by combining with Stanley to form a solid tandem on the Left side.

As for the common choices, I think Flacco, Pitta, SSS, Perriman on offense and Webb, Weddle (will be considered the best safety tandem by season's end), Matt Judon and Zachary Orr will shine beyond expectations.

Speaking of Shareece. WOW! If he has just one more game all season like the one he had last year then we got our money's worth. Everything else is a bonus lol

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

As per normal I'm late to the party... So let's do this thing.

 

1. Michael Pierce. Crazy high ceiling, freakish athletic ability, needs to get a tad more refined but we have a potential future stud on our hands here. I don't want us to get rid of Williams as he is an elite run defender, but man.. Pierce might make it super hard. 

 

2. Breshad Perriman- Mark my words. Future #1 WR. Size, speed, good hands, ran a very good route over the middle, is willing to fight for the ball. We need to get him a little more up to speed, but mark my words. He's got the talent. 

 

3.Timmy Jernigan-Could be a future pro bowler. Could easily see him getting 8+ sacks this year. 

[usmccharles]

Video on Stanley

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[frozen joe flacco fan]

The obvious answers would be Stanley, Perriman and Maxx Williams. However, its an odd year with so many guys returning from injuries. Add to the list Flacco, Pitta, SSS & Suggs. Barring any further injuries, These key starters will all improve as the season goes along. Recovering from the psychological side of an injury sometimes takes longer than the physical recovery. By season's end, this team should be really good.

[Maryland]

Maxx seems to be the primary blocking TE. He's already made a big leap in that aspect. Not sure if he'll ever become a good receiving threat though, not if he can't get separation.

[stampedehero]

My obvious choice is Joe. His demeanor and confidence leads the team forward.  The Cleveland game proved it.

Wallace is going to be a household name on the East Coast.  His abilities to catch in stride and make the BIG catch are what every coach and team wants. Couple his presence with SSS on the field and games similar to our 1stQ debacle in Cleveland can be won.

The Tuck will kick better this year that last due to his health, contract and dependable 3 pts and  PAT percentages.