[News] Late For Work 9/14: Ravens Climbing Power Rankings After First Win

[eze17]

  2 hours ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

Did you watch the Squealers destroy the Skins by being a passing team? Or the Bengals destroy the Jets by throwing to AJ Green for 150+ yards against Revis? The old AFC North - run & play D is gone - if you don't have a passing game, you lose in today's NFL. See what happened to the Rams with one of the best RB and one of the best Defenses in the game - can't throw, can't win, can't do it. The Rules have changed - can't hit a WR catching the ball, can't hit the QB high or low, o-line can't cut block on running plays, etc - it's now a passing league, period. Yes, you still have to have a Run game and a good D, but you're not winning without throwing the ball more than running it.

Um, did the Bronco's have that spectacular of a passing game last year when they won the Super Bowl? I understand and mostly agree with your opinion, but you can still win consistently in this league without having the best ariel attack. Agreed that you better have some kind of passing ability, but Too many people are downsizing the importance of good defense. Poor D = getting lit up and not winning critical games. Great defense can still win Championships.

[RRRRRavens]

  2 hours ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

Did you watch the Squealers destroy the Skins by being a passing team? Or the Bengals destroy the Jets by throwing to AJ Green for 150+ yards against Revis? The old AFC North - run & play D is gone - if you don't have a passing game, you lose in today's NFL. See what happened to the Rams with one of the best RB and one of the best Defenses in the game - can't throw, can't win, can't do it. The Rules have changed - can't hit a WR catching the ball, can't hit the QB high or low, o-line can't cut block on running plays, etc - it's now a passing league, period. Yes, you still have to have a Run game and a good D, but you're not winning without throwing the ball more than running it.

Just a small quibble with the poster's terminology. The Bengals beat the Jets with a last minute FG to eke out a ONE POINT victory. That's not exactly what I would call "destroying" an opponent. Otherwise I have no objections.

[MikebRaven]

Pretty much has always been a 3-1 pass-run ratio for years. Both are essential with more passing yards vs running but running limits the amount of turnovers. 

[bioLarzen]

... and Perriman's hurt again.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  2 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  3 hours ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

Did you watch the Squealers destroy the Skins by being a passing team? Or the Bengals destroy the Jets by throwing to AJ Green for 150+ yards against Revis? The old AFC North - run & play D is gone - if you don't have a passing game, you lose in today's NFL. See what happened to the Rams with one of the best RB and one of the best Defenses in the game - can't throw, can't win, can't do it. The Rules have changed - can't hit a WR catching the ball, can't hit the QB high or low, o-line can't cut block on running plays, etc - it's now a passing league, period. Yes, you still have to have a Run game and a good D, but you're not winning without throwing the ball more than running it.

Um, did the Bronco's have that spectacular of a passing game last year when they won the Super Bowl? I understand and mostly agree with your opinion, but you can still win consistently in this league without having the best ariel attack. Agreed that you better have some kind of passing ability, but Too many people are downsizing the importance of good defense. Poor D = getting lit up and not winning critical games. Great defense can still win Championships.

Well, Demaryius Thomas had 1,300 yards receiving. Sanders had 1,100 yards receiving. So, I would say that any team with 2 x 1,000+ WRs is a passing team (the Ravens had Zero). Like I said, you still have to have a run game and D to finish off games but it's a passing league. And of course the #1 Defense in the NFL is always going to have a shot (like Denver last year) but it's the passing game that gets them there. Carolina is the poster child for Run/Great D. But if Cam doesn't throw 35 TD's, do you think they are even in the Super Bowl?

[runcontrol]

... and Perriman's hurt again.

This is what I hate to see once a player gets labeled "injury prone" Last season and the beginning of this offseason Perriman had issues with his knees, right now he has a calf injury, so its not the same problem. Let's just hope its nothing serious, and not freak out about an injury that might not even keep him from playing Sunday.


When an "injury prone" player goes down people love to go "See I told you so". I saw an article three weeks ago that said that Pitta's broken finger is proof that the Ravens can't count on Pitta to stay healthy. Umm... Pitta has in issue with his hip, his broken finger is completely unrelated. And earlier this week someone said something like "Now you see why Allen fell down most draft boards" A comment was made that said, "Yeah, because his spleen and an ACL injury are connected"

[Ravenous_Ravens]

  4 hours ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

Did you watch the Squealers destroy the Skins by being a passing team? Or the Bengals destroy the Jets by throwing to AJ Green for 150+ yards against Revis? The old AFC North - run & play D is gone - if you don't have a passing game, you lose in today's NFL. See what happened to the Rams with one of the best RB and one of the best Defenses in the game - can't throw, can't win, can't do it. The Rules have changed - can't hit a WR catching the ball, can't hit the QB high or low, o-line can't cut block on running plays, etc - it's now a passing league, period. Yes, you still have to have a Run game and a good D, but you're not winning without throwing the ball more than running it.

True and I agree with what you are saying but I'll also add that a good defense severely limits the points needed to win and can make a pass happy team frustrated to say the least.

When you run, you can still gain some yards even when not much is there.

When you pass, you either complete it or not, gain or no gain. A good defense can force 3 and long all day. Only need a decent pass rush after that to get home, without bringing the barn.

[bioLarzen]

  1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:

... and Perriman's hurt again.

This is what I hate to see once a player gets labeled "injury prone" Last season and the beginning of this offseason Perriman had issues with his knees, right now he has a calf injury, so its not the same problem. Let's just hope its nothing serious, and not freak out about an injury that might not even keep him from playing Sunday.


When an "injury prone" player goes down people love to go "See I told you so". I saw an article three weeks ago that said that Pitta's broken finger is proof that the Ravens can't count on Pitta to stay healthy. Umm... Pitta has in issue with his hip, his broken finger is completely unrelated. And earlier this week someone said something like "Now you see why Allen fell down most draft boards" A comment was made that said, "Yeah, because his spleen and an ACL injury are connected"

I only wrote "... and Perriman's hurt again." Eerything else is your contribution. I didn't say "See I told you so".

I just stated a fact. You were the one who came up with the "injury prone" narrative.

[Doomville]

4 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

5 hours ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

Did you watch the Squealers destroy the Skins by being a passing team? Or the Bengals destroy the Jets by throwing to AJ Green for 150+ yards against Revis? The old AFC North - run & play D is gone - if you don't have a passing game, you lose in today's NFL. See what happened to the Rams with one of the best RB and one of the best Defenses in the game - can't throw, can't win, can't do it. The Rules have changed - can't hit a WR catching the ball, can't hit the QB high or low, o-line can't cut block on running plays, etc - it's now a passing league, period. Yes, you still have to have a Run game and a good D, but you're not winning without throwing the ball more than running it.

1. Steelers had a big running game against skins and they have the no. 1 wr in brown who abused breeland (not the skins' best corner)

2. Bengals have green, a top 5 wr, who bails out dalton many times and bengals did NOT destroy the jets.

3. Flacco has never been the type of qb to put up elite passing numbers. Ravens have always been successful due to a good running game and defense.

4. "but you're not winning without throwing the ball more than running it." <-- this statement is an opinion, not a fact. In fact, it has been proven wrong many times.

Passing game is very important no doubt, but so is the running game. Without any running game, opposing defense can just drop 8 men into coverage (skins vs steelers game) and qb won't be able to do much

Edited September 14, 2016 by Doomville

[Ravenshine]

Just saw the bookmobile clip...that is too funny.

[Halshayeji]

11 hours ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

we ran the ball 24 times accounting for 40% of our offense. I don't mind the ratio as much as the fact that 4 of those plays went for 40 yards and and we averaged just over 2 yards a carry for the remaining 20. That's not gonna do it. our pass protection was barely good enough as Flacco threw the ball away in the pocket 4 times and got sacked another 4. Il give Trestman credit for a great Flacco performance where he connected with 10 WRs and zero INTs but Trestman has to resolve the Oline issues and get a lot more production from the runing game. 13 points when our D plays like that is unacceptable!

[Maryland]

Lol, you can tell Bleacher Report is awful when they're praising our OL for outperforming Buffalo's DL.

[CaliRavenFan]

42 minutes ago, Maryland said:

Lol, you can tell Bleacher Report is awful when they're praising our OL for outperforming Buffalo's DL.

I was excited with the way our OL played against the Bills.. We started two rookies on the left side and still gave up half the sacks the Bengals did. The Bills have a great defense and they know our team inside and out. Our line will only get better as the year goes on, especially since Yanda wont have a game like that again. 

[budman]

10 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

we ran the ball 24 times accounting for 40% of our offense. I don't mind the ratio as much as the fact that 4 of those plays went for 40 yards and and we averaged just over 2 yards a carry for the remaining 20. That's not gonna do it. our pass protection was barely good enough as Flacco threw the ball away in the pocket 4 times and got sacked another 4. Il give Trestman credit for a great Flacco performance where he connected with 10 WRs and zero INTs but Trestman has to resolve the Oline issues and get a lot more production from the runing game. 13 points when our D plays like that is unacceptable!

Or you could say just like the old days--13 points is all we need when our Defense plays like that. Except back in the day, our defense used to tell a young Flacco to just get us a touchdown and we'll do the rest.

[Halshayeji]

7 hours ago, budman said:

Or you could say just like the old days--13 points is all we need when our Defense plays like that. Except back in the day, our defense used to tell a young Flacco to just get us a touchdown and we'll do the rest.

Good days