[News] Late For Work 9/14: Ravens Climbing Power Rankings After First Win

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Battle between Justin Forsett and Terrance West 'officially begins.' Is Mike Wallace a legit fantasy option? Bringing sanity to 'Overreaction Monday.'

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[Ravenshine]

"You mean they like us? They really really like us?...yeah we don't give a dang."

That said, Cameron DaSilva's comments did seem apt 'constructive' criticism...tho I disagree on that we don't have a strong identity yet, which I took was aimed at O. I think we have an identity and it's getting into form. May take a few games but I see it there. But the other concerns are worth addressing... More running plays resulting in 1st d could take care of that.

[RRRRRavens]

Most of the Raven's rough spots during the Bills game on offense looked like a team getting its coordination back - a lot like you might see during an early pre-season game. This particular failing should resolve itself as the season progresses. Beyond the victory the most important goal was avoiding significant injuries which it seems we did.

[stixfix69]

Well power ranking really don't mean much when the voters really don't have a clue, for instance yes Pits win of the Skins was impressive as far as points, but both teams defenses gave up a ton of yards, we played a team with a coach known for their defense, and we kept a dynamic offense with play makers to 160 yards of offense. So putting up over 300 yards on offense and giving up only 160 in a pass happy league is impressive, and if the critics can't see that, then they just aren't paying attention...Regardless we are 1-0, and that's what only matters W's and L's....

[Ravenshine]

Well power ranking really don't mean much when the voters really don't have a clue, for instance yes Pits win of the Skins was impressive as far as points, but both teams defenses gave up a ton of yards, we played a team with a coach known for their defense, and we kept a dynamic offense with play makers to 160 yards of offense. So putting up over 300 yards on offense and giving up only 160 in a pass happy league is impressive, and if the critics can't see that, then they just aren't paying attention...Regardless we are 1-0, and that's what only matters W's and L's....

Agree totally that Ws are all that matters ultimately. So...looking ahead to future games, think we got to work out the red zone plays, and maybe it was due to Bills D being strong, as you said, but we put up only 1 TD even tho we had yards overall, just couldn't get the score more than once for 7.

[sami]

A lot of our red zone problems are due to the stupid plays called when we get near the goal line.

[budman]

1 minute ago, Ravenshine said:

Agree totally that Ws are all that matters ultimately. So...looking ahead to future games, think we got to work out the red zone plays, and maybe it was due to Bills D being strong, as you said, but we put up only 1 TD even tho we had yards overall, just couldn't get the score more than once for 7.

Right. I think people forget just how tough a Rex Ryan Defense really is. They made a mistake, we took advantage of that mistake and got the win. Not to mention our "D" out shined theirs. It was a good ol' punch in the mouth, Raven Win.

[Bilbo]

The failure of our offense to put more points on the board was due IMHO to the untimely penalties. Flacco looked unsure in the 2nd half and was pressured and failed to hit several open WRs. A little antsy was to be expected but he was very low on most passes in the 2nd half. I expect a better showing using more of the run against the Browns...

[eze17]

Most of the Raven's rough spots during the Bills game on offense looked like a team getting its coordination back - a lot like you might see during an early pre-season game. This particular failing should resolve itself as the season progresses. Beyond the victory the most important goal was avoiding significant injuries which it seems we did.

Excellent points. And it was nice to win a close game that we seemed to let slip away from us every time last year.

[billiejean]

The failure of our offense to put more points on the board was due IMHO to the untimely penalties. Flacco looked unsure in the 2nd half and was pressured and failed to hit several open WRs. A little antsy was to be expected but he was very low on most passes in the 2nd half. I expect a better showing using more of the run against the Browns...

yea a few of those drives looked promising until the penalties left us behind schedule.

[Ravenshine]

Agree on both counts...need more clever/sneaky red zone plays (hmmm Pitta back now sneaky feels doable) + more ground game, and also that our D was #1 and Bills were not far behind at 9 last week does show something impressive about our O, and ofc our D... Just want to see more effective red zone O and more resulting points, that's plagued us for a while now, and we usually turn to Tucker to chip out the wins with FGs. I def feel this year is different tho with a more talented, versatile O so...lets bring it, not just down field...but in for the TDs.

[SUGGStobeDUMED]

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

[SUGGStobeDUMED]

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

..he wouldnt play smash mouth football...*

spelling is dum.

[stixfix69]

Well, i don't recall being in the redzone all but maybe once with that penalty we took when they gave us a first down after tuck made the FG, but we have the WR for redzone plays as most, except for SSS are 6 feet or taller...Flacco really didn't have a lot of time to throw the entire day, and isn't yet mobile enough to roll out of the pocket....Once he knocks off the rust we will see him buy more time rolling out when the pocket caves in.....Honestly i'm not to worried being the first game, and as i said yesterday, first full game for all the players coming back from injury played.....Suggs looked rusty, and not explosive, but he will come around....And to be honest, again when the so-called experts had us winning by more than we did, they obviously forgot that a Rex Ryan defense is no joke.....I will say its been a while since i have seen our defense play so fast, and gang tackle like we did......Can't wait for Sunday....

[fusuymada]

I love when writers like Zrebiec tell fans what their opinions should be. In most cases, writers are simply fans who think they know more than everyone else, not that they do, they simply believe that. Where I don't agree with the Suggs and SSS being washed up, I certainly agree with the fact that Trestman has always been a play caller who loved short passes and hitting the back out of the backfield. Matt Forte loved him when he was there for that reason, not because he ran the ball. He doesn't like to air it out and he doesn't like to run the ball, both things the Ravens have always hung their hat on. As far as Zuttah goes, he has never stood out as great, he has always been adequate and I don't think its disrespectful to a vet to lose their job when they aren't producing. Urschel played better last year than Zuttah has since he has been here, look at the PFF numbers. The NFL isn't about making Zuttah feel good because he is a vet, it is about putting the best players on the field.

[Ravenshine]

On subject of play calls...was glad to see us go for it on 4th down like we usually opt to do in games when we have the field position (moreso than a lot of other teams do). We didn't make 1st down last week's game but still glad we went for it cause it's guts playing. The day Ravens coaching settles for fg or punt when there's a do-able 4th down attempt in play is a sad day for RN as it spells out conservative, safe football. IOW mediocrity. BUT I don't think we'll ever see that happen in Harbaugh era as he likes to go for it (yes!) and hopefully we never become that frady cat team cause 4th down plays are the best! When we get 1st ... but even when we just try to its still better than caving into fear of not making it.

[Ravenshine]

Well, i don't recall being in the redzone all but maybe once with that penalty we took when they gave us a first down after tuck made the FG, but we have the WR for redzone plays as most, except for SSS are 6 feet or taller...Flacco really didn't have a lot of time to throw the entire day, and isn't yet mobile enough to roll out of the pocket....Once he knocks off the rust we will see him buy more time rolling out when the pocket caves in.....Honestly i'm not to worried being the first game, and as i said yesterday, first full game for all the players coming back from injury played.....Suggs looked rusty, and not explosive, but he will come around....And to be honest, again when the so-called experts had us winning by more than we did, they obviously forgot that a Rex Ryan defense is no joke.....I will say its been a while since i have seen our defense play so fast, and gang tackle like we did......Can't wait for Sunday....

Good points. It's rare I get critical on team at all, cause I have faith in what staff, coaches, players can do, and have done. But the red zone issue (either not getting there or settling for FGs) is the one thing I'd like to see improvement on. And I think you're right, as to next week should see the improvements, it's a new year and somewhat new roster. Ds performance def something to be very excited about.

[757RavensFan]

30 minutes ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

..he wouldnt play smash mouth football...*

spelling is dum.

You know you can edit your post or comments right?

[20306cab]

Let's hope the breaks continue to go our way. However, another bad one on Sunday. Robert Griffin the Late goes down and now McCown gets to face the Ravens again. Let's ALL pray the "Creepy Pages" guy doesn't show up tomorrow. The sure Kiss of Death.

Edited September 14, 2016 by 20306cab

[ravens4life86]

Can I get a injury report? Practice report?
Jamison Hensley, posted up Not practicing..Perriman,Mosley,Zuttah,Z.Smith,Dumervil

Hopefully its all rest days..not injuries

[stixfix69]

I heard Perriman,Mosley,Zuttah didn't practice, hope it's just to rest them.....

[TheConquerorWorm]

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

Did you watch the Squealers destroy the Skins by being a passing team? Or the Bengals destroy the Jets by throwing to AJ Green for 150+ yards against Revis? The old AFC North - run & play D is gone - if you don't have a passing game, you lose in today's NFL. See what happened to the Rams with one of the best RB and one of the best Defenses in the game - can't throw, can't win, can't do it. The Rules have changed - can't hit a WR catching the ball, can't hit the QB high or low, o-line can't cut block on running plays, etc - it's now a passing league, period. Yes, you still have to have a Run game and a good D, but you're not winning without throwing the ball more than running it.

[stixfix69]

  1 hour ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

Did you watch the Squealers destroy the Skins by being a passing team? Or the Bengals destroy the Jets by throwing to AJ Green for 150+ yards against Revis? The old AFC North - run & play D is gone - if you don't have a passing game, you lose in today's NFL. See what happened to the Rams with one of the best RB and one of the best Defenses in the game - can't throw, can't win, can't do it. The Rules have changed - can't hit a WR catching the ball, can't hit the QB high or low, o-line can't cut block on running plays, etc - it's now a passing league, period. Yes, you still have to have a Run game and a good D, but you're not winning without throwing the ball more than running it.

Well to be fair, Pit did what they wanted as Williams ran for 140 pus yards, but i think teams are looking for a 3-1 pass run ratio so 100 yards rushing, and 250-300+ passing is a pretty good formula....:)

[steelcityraven]

We will see how much the defense has grown this week. The Browns put up 30 or more points in both games vs us last year... McCown is back at QB and the Browns will look to attack us down the field and with Duke Johnson out of the backfield. The defense will get a chance to show some growth this week.

[jboy19]

Fingers crossed about Perriman. It would be heartbreaking to lose another season.

[ThatssoRaven1990]

Fingers crossed about Perriman. It would be heartbreaking to lose another season.

Coach Harbs declined to comment on his status but says later his afternoon it will be revealed for the injury report

[stixfix69]

  21 minutes ago, jboy19 said:

Fingers crossed about Perriman. It would be heartbreaking to lose another season.

Coach Harbs declined to comment on his status but says later his afternoon it will be revealed for the injury report

he will probably be listed as questionable, i think they just don't want him to do to much, as they said they would take it slow with him, and with Wallace they can afford to.....hoping that is the case...Also saw Z didn't practice....Hoping that is just a day off, he really has played well...

[DBsRAVENS]

  1 hour ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

I dont know if you can call the Trestman opinion and 'overreaction.'

Everyone was concerned when they hired him that he would play smash moth football and instead try and turn this team into a passing team..that WONT work in the AFC N.

Nothing in Trestman's recent coaching has indicated in any way that he will be a run-first OC.

Did you watch the Squealers destroy the Skins by being a passing team? Or the Bengals destroy the Jets by throwing to AJ Green for 150+ yards against Revis? The old AFC North - run & play D is gone - if you don't have a passing game, you lose in today's NFL. See what happened to the Rams with one of the best RB and one of the best Defenses in the game - can't throw, can't win, can't do it. The Rules have changed - can't hit a WR catching the ball, can't hit the QB high or low, o-line can't cut block on running plays, etc - it's now a passing league, period. Yes, you still have to have a Run game and a good D, but you're not winning without throwing the ball more than running it.

Feeding knowledge one teaspoon at a time, eat up.

[The Greek]

need to get the running game going early to get the offense in a nice flow and stop stalling drives with stupid penalties. i am not sold on any of the backs we have. wish we had a jamal lewis type back

Edited September 14, 2016 by The Greek

[ThatssoRaven1990]

  1 hour ago, ThatssoRaven1990 said:

  1 hour ago, jboy19 said:

Fingers crossed about Perriman. It would be heartbreaking to lose another season.

Coach Harbs declined to comment on his status but says later his afternoon it will be revealed for the injury report

he will probably be listed as questionable, i think they just don't want him to do to much, as they said they would take it slow with him, and with Wallace they can afford to.....hoping that is the case...Also saw Z didn't practice....Hoping that is just a day off, he really has played well...

Looks like just a minor calf injury and just playing it safe