[News] John Harbaugh Gives His Evaluation Of Offensive Line

[BR News]

Head Coach John Harbaugh said rookies Ronnie Stanley and Alex Lewis played ‘pretty darn well,’ but he wanted to see better blocking in the run game. John Urschel is getting healthier and could play center.

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[purpledown]

Agreed Stanley looks like a 10 year fixture at left tackle. This is one of the Ravens better drafts in many years.

[dirtybird66]

thats what happens when you let all pros go via free agency.

[cobrajet]

I continue to be impressed with Stanley. I thought he was a good pick when we drafted him, but he is doing even better than I expected.

[PalmBayRaven]

thats what happens when you let all pros go via free agency.

I think it was more on Zuttah than missing KO honestly. We haven't had a decent center since Matt Birck retired.

[PalmBayRaven]

thats what happens when you let all pros go via free agency.

We did try to keep KO.

[Fastynart]

I don't know if any of the offensive line played "pretty darn well", but Stanley and Lewis certainly had plenty of bad company. When your quarterback gets hit that often, you are not playing "pretty darn well". Isn't it about time he told the truth? They played like crap. No holes open for the backs. No protection for Joe. Oh, wait, that's "pretty darn well" at least according to Harbaugh.

[b93333]

We need a center.

[RavenzOz]

thats what happens when you let all pros go via free agency.

All right I'll bite, who are they and how much would they have cost us (so we can tally it up like)

[sizzlingdoom]

Perriman catches one ball and never seen again? Nothing

wrong topic mr negative

[sizzlingdoom]

thats what happens when you let all pros go via free agency.

we wouldve been stupid to pay KO what the raiders did

[Steve32]

thats what happens when you let all pros go via free agency.

You are referring to KO.

First of all, KO was very good but not an all pro.

Second, we tried to keep him, but Oakland offered him an insane amount of money. Good for KO. We could not spend that much on one offensive linemen, especially since we signed Yanda to an extension.

BTW, Yanda is an all pro. And we kept him.

[ravenwildman]

O-line just had a few dumb mistakes that were costly, silly stuff they know not to do, missed assignments, penalties and such. At least they had these "senior moments" in a game that we won. Maybe it's a good thing to wake them up and add emphasis in not repeating. All in all, I am not worried here, these guys are next level in my opinion. GO RAVENS! 25

[The Greek]

i am not worried about the o-line aside from the center position. hopefully zuttah gets it together.

[Ravenshine]

Just rating our team from last year, yes agree with that we are next level team now and Harbaugh's explanations of what was going on are spot on IMO. It's complex playing to learn but that's exactly the kind of football we want to be doing and are on track with it, ...while not fully incorporating all variables but still doing the major things right.

So test is to get better for when facing the tougher teams...I don't consider the Bills a necessarily tough team but they aren't bottom of barrel either so they were a good measurement and first opponent to face.

[sami]

Just rating our team from last year, yes agree with that we are next level team now and Harbaugh's explanations of what was going on are spot on IMO. It's complex playing to learn but that's exactly the kind of football we want to be doing and are on track with it, ...while not fully incorporating all variables but still doing the major things right.

So test is to get better for when facing the tougher teams...I don't consider the Bills a necessarily tough team but they aren't bottom of barrel either so they were a good measurement and first opponent to face.

The Bills aren't a great team but they are a tricky team with Rex Ryan at the helm. So I think youre right, Ravenshine. If we still had those plus and minuses you'd get a + from me.

[Ravenshine]

  1 hour ago, Ravenshine said:

Just rating our team from last year, yes agree with that we are next level team now and Harbaugh's explanations of what was going on are spot on IMO. It's complex playing to learn but that's exactly the kind of football we want to be doing and are on track with it, ...while not fully incorporating all variables but still doing the major things right.

So test is to get better for when facing the tougher teams...I don't consider the Bills a necessarily tough team but they aren't bottom of barrel either so they were a good measurement and first opponent to face.

The Bills aren't a great team but they are a tricky team with Rex Ryan at the helm. So I think youre right, Ravenshine. If we still had those plus and minuses you'd get a + from me.

Tricky, yes good word to describe them Sami. Just the out of the gate test we needed.

[AlwaysA_Raven]

Why nobody mentions Joe's lack of mobility and slow playing as part of the reason he got sacked, hit, and hurried... In my opinion, if he is 100% and making fast decisions, at least half of those plays, if not all, would have been different. He took most of his snaps in shotgun and he did not move out of pocket or stepped forward when he should have. I am sure this is going to improve with time though.. Go Ravens..

[The Mom Gene]

Why nobody mentions Joe's lack of mobility and slow playing as part of the reason he got sacked, hit, and hurried... In my opinion, if he is 100% and making fast decisions, at least half of those plays, if not all, would have been different. He took most of his snaps in shotgun and he did not move out of pocket or stepped forward when he should have. I am sure this is going to improve with time though.. Go Ravens..

I don't believe that Joe is 100%. I know that is the claim, but even so, say he is 100% physically? He's not 100% mentally yet. He played how many snaps in the preseason games??? He's got some tests to do yet. He was throwing pretty flat-footed, and not stepping up into the pocket as much as usual. I really didn't expect him to do much running out and around like previously yet. A couple of more games, and some encouragement from his protection will do wonders for him.

He's gotta figure out that he's gonna be fine. (We know he will, just not yet). I've had a knee injury. Took me a long time to gain the confidence to use that knee completely again.

[caw710]

Why was Buck Allen a scratch? He wasn't on the injury list. Haven't seen any info on that. Not that Forsett and West did bad, just curious.

[Drew P]

3 minutes ago, caw710 said:

Why was Buck Allen a scratch? He wasn't on the injury list. Haven't seen any info on that. Not that Forsett and West did bad, just curious.

Harbs said they wanted to use more 3 WR sets and he was the odd guy out but it sounds like it wont happen again going forward

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Joe needs to get moving now. His positioning inside the pocket is downright awful at times and contributes to him getting hit as well as making it harder on his o-line.

He also needs to get the timing down so he is throwing the ball with anticipation. Seems many balls he throws late and allows the coverage to collapse making for tougher catches than needed. Yes this requires more trust with the receivers, but it will also let them play to their ceiling when you consistently hit them in stride.

Still waiting for running game to return. Was not awful but certainly there is plenty of room for improvement. Might need Trestman to get creative with his play calling until the Stanley and Lewis can up that aspect of their game.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Agreed Stanley looks like a 10 year fixture at left tackle. This is one of the Ravens better drafts in many years.

One good pick, which I agree with, does not amount to a good draft (multiple picks).

Also missing on a top 10 pick should mean you are no longer a GM. You have months to prepare in that season plus years if you scout right and follow players develop at college/university level.

Cannot really properly or accurately evaluate a draft class for at least 3 years. IMHO 4 years is the right time to evaluate as you have more points to validate the success of drafting a particular player. Guys out of the league make things easy, as do players that earn a second contract. For everyone else you can go by stats over playing time and compare to similar players at that position, etc.

There are many 1 year wonders, and guys that come out of no where and make a name for themselves plus as Ravens fans know too well injuries do happen and is no longer a myth.

[bozo]

they we're lucky in getting the win the offense looked terrible. except for a couple of plays. 13 points will not cut down the road.

[bozo]

I just don't understand why other top teams offenses look in sink and we look terrible and joe looks the the 3rd qb instead of the starter. josh Johnson looked way better than joe, mallet look 2nd best.

[sizzlingdoom]

I just don't understand why other top teams offenses look in sink and we look terrible and joe looks the the 3rd qb instead of the starter. josh Johnson looked way better than joe, mallet look 2nd best.

Maybe cuz we have a lot of new pieces and people coming back from injury. We also played a very good defense with 2 great corners. Also wasn't Joe's fault for all the oline penalties and Zuttah giving a possesion away. And are you kidding? It's ridiculous how people put stock into preseason. They're all back up players and nobody play's their actual schemes or real games plans. And you're right, Joe sure looked like a 3rd qb when he checked out of a run and delivered a dime for a 66 yard TD pass....? There has been 1 game played this year. And we are 1-0.

[sizzlingdoom]

they we're lucky in getting the win the offense looked terrible. except for a couple of plays. 13 points will not cut down the road.

No team is ever lucky to win. It's a grind every game and every game is different. And thanks for the genius input on 13 points a game not being great for a whole season. Glad we all get to read great and insightful post such as these

[sizzlingdoom]

Why was Buck Allen a scratch? He wasn't on the injury list. Haven't seen any info on that. Not that Forsett and West did bad, just curious.

I don't see Buck as more than a special teamer. Especially when Dixon returns. He is NOT a good rb. I don't think even average. He is a decent pass catching back. We don't need him. We have 3 backs that are much better than him. If we could trade him for a 5th or 6th I would be stoked

[sizzlingdoom]

Agreed Stanley looks like a 10 year fixture at left tackle. This is one of the Ravens better drafts in many years.

It's a good thing too. Our past drafts have been killing us. Whiffing left and right at high picks. I still don't think anybody has an idea about what we're going to get out of our 2nd and 3rd round pick, which is a big deal. But the 1rst, 4th, and 5th round look like home runs. We just simply can't afford to make anymore Elam and Arthur Brown picks. I mean, just releasing 1rst and 2nd round picks that can't even make the team?!? COSTLY. And when I say 1rst round, we should've released Elam already. Nothing against him personally, but considering his draft spot and play on the field, Elam might be my least favorite Raven ever. I legitamitely think he cost us a chance at a superbowl with his missed tackle on Edleman in the playoffs. He is a missed tackle machine and he can't cover. Accept it and cut ties already front office

[Halshayeji]

On September 13, 2016 at 5:27 PM, The Greek said:

i am not worried about the o-line aside from the center position. hopefully zuttah gets it together.

How are you not worried? I counted 4 sacks and at least 4 times Joe just barely got the ball out avoiding a sack. Our run blocking wasn't great either. We ran the ball 24 times. 4 of those were great elusive plays by our backs for 40 yards. The other 20 runs averaged 2 yards a carry. We need push off the line and some holes for our runing backs to run through.