Week 1: The good the bad and the ugly vs Buffalo

[PurpleCity5]

4 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think we'd sooner put Jensen or Urschel at center than trade for a center. There's really no time to make that move because as you said, you need chemistry and any center we trade to acquire wouldn't have enough time to really come in and make an impact, IMHO. 

Yeah that's the problem. It's different from a Eugene Monroe trade because Centers have to build a really close affinity with QBs unlike LTs. I don't see it happening but it wouldn't be the worst panic move. Its much more likely Jensen or Urschel is put in but I really think we should look at options there. Honestly, Zuttah got destroyed today and there were plays that failed miserably in large part because of him. 

Edited September 12, 2016 by PurpleCity5

[Boddiebroadus]

Not sure if this was mentioned but anyone else notice how much smaller SSS other leg is. It's very noticeable 

[GrimCoconut]

Just now, PurpleCity5 said:

Yeah that's the problem. It's different from a Eugene Monroe trade because Centers have to build a really close affinity with QBs unlike LTs. I don't see it happening but it wouldn't be the worst panic move. Its much more likely Jensen or Urschel is put in but I really think we should look at options there. 

Don't be surprised if we draft Pocic next year in the draft. 

[JoeyFlex5]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

Don't be surprised if we draft Pocic next year in the draft. 

Saying this you might as well be summoning me. That's my guy.

[BmoreBird22]

So, if everyone is curious, you can actually see every single Joe Flacco pass from the game today on NFL.com in under four minutes. It's really nifty.

There's a huge difference in how Flacco looked when he completed a pass (or had one dropped) and when he did not complete a pass. 

When Flacco would complete a pass, the ball was out at a fiery pace and he looked decisive. It was snap, set, throw. Really quick and decisive. It only got six, seven yard gains for several, but that's how you move the plays.

On the plays where Flacco didn't complete a pass (not due to an almost strip), Flacco would hold onto the ball, pull the ball back down, and be forced to work back through his progressions. That may be due to the play design or the excellent coverage of the Bills corners, but you could definitely see a difference between the two Flacco's.

Also, even when he was completing passes, Flacco wasn't always stepping into throws. He was flat footed for many. He needs to get his mechanics back on par.

[ravensdan]

2 hours ago, Jekkutin said:

I honestly don't understand all the "run the ball more" talk, especially up the middle the run game was god awful... I think it would be easier for Marc to run the ball more if we could execute it better..

I agree. I don't want to see that at all. It doesn't fit this team. It's not the offense. It's not going to be. That's a good thing. I suspect the team will be near the top in pass attempts. I would like to see Allen the best recieving back in there. 

[terps85]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

Yep. Weddle was a very vocal guy on the field and I really like him a lot. You can see the passion and football IQ he has. I really think his addition will be a huge one for us as he gets more and more familiar here. 

Agreed - you can just tell he loves being out there and is the clear leader of the defense.  I really love what the front office did this year... Could be a bit of selective memory, but it seemed like Trestman used a lot of multiple TE sets, which would have been lethal with Watson and Pitta on the field at the same time.  And then of course Wallace showed up big today.

[PurpleCity5]

4 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Don't be surprised if we draft Pocic next year in the draft. 

Pocic is a stud and he would be great here, I do believe round 2/3 is the sweet spots for C's and I would love to get a guy like Elfein here. I just think C is a position that we really need to look at overall. 

[ellicottraven]

39 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

be interesting to see whos inactive when doom, powers and dixon return..

i really have soured of Za"Darius smith..even in the preseason games he just reminded me of upshaw..no bend whatsoever.

I really hope matt judon is let loose a bit more vs the browns..just not against joe thomas  

Joe Thomas will try and neutralize Suggs. That's all his job will be. Judon played really well and also we got tremendous push in the middle too.

[ellicottraven]

45 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Pees called a good game. Communication on defense appears much improved. Blitz appears much more cloaked in terms of who is coming vs. who is dropping into coverage.

Wright was brilliant at getting off blocks and making tackles. Also appears explosive and decisive playing the run.

The run game is very, very deliberate and just seemed way to is in getting the back the ball and the back getting up field.

Red Zone offense is a problem. Judon needs more reps over McClellan and I'd like to see Chris Carter in rotation on passing downs.

Interior OL pushed around....this looked to be a problem vs. Indy in pre-season.

Pees actually called a great game!

[Maryland]

13 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I used to defend this guy but I don't think I can anymore. I don't think the guy will have a good year. I think it could be time to move on from Zuttah and find a new center. I don't know if the Front office will be willing to because centers just have to build chemistry with QBs and it will take time. I do think they would look into if we're in the playoff picture, the only problem in my mind is who they would trade for. I think center will be the biggest problem for the offensive line. Zuttah was annihilated in that Bills game and from the looks of it I just don't think he really has much left. He was a solid pass protector he has declined in that department since last season and he's never been known as a run blocker. I don't see the team having any confidence in Urschel either seeing him as an inactive. 

I could be overreacting since it's week one but I really think we need a new center sooner or later down the road. 

lol I was logging on to here just to see if anyone else noticed how bad Zuttah was today. He's continuing from a bad preseason, too. Usually O-linemen are still in their prime at age 30, but he has regressed it seems. Hopefully it's just a bad game and this is all overreaction, but he looked weak out there today even when he wasn't whiffing on blocks or hiking the ball at the wrong time. He's a big reason why our inside runs went for no gain.

[redrum52]

The ugly is I still can't believe I'm cheering on Mike Wallace.  I like this teams potential.

 

 

I wonder if him and Webb ever talk about when he said he doesn't worry about Mike and focuses on Brown.

Edited September 12, 2016 by redrum52

[Moderator 2]

48 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'm in Blacksburg, so this will be my big chance unless someone spots him in a club and I can go.

If I don't get it, no big deal, but I'd like to think he'd see his own jersey (which is rare) and quickly just squiggle an autograph, you know?

Not the tunnel but the players gate several hours before and after the game.

[GrimCoconut]

13 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

The ugly is I still can't believe I'm cheering on Mike Wallace.  I like this teams potential.

 

 

I wonder if him and Webb ever talk about when he said he doesn't worry about Mike and focuses on Brown.

Apparently they did and they squared their difference away when he got here. That's what he said in the interview today.

[hawkprey]

14 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

So, if everyone is curious, you can actually see every single Joe Flacco pass from the game today on NFL.com in under four minutes. It's really nifty.

There's a huge difference in how Flacco looked when he completed a pass (or had one dropped) and when he did not complete a pass. 

When Flacco would complete a pass, the ball was out at a fiery pace and he looked decisive. It was snap, set, throw. Really quick and decisive. It only got six, seven yard gains for several, but that's how you move the plays.

On the plays where Flacco didn't complete a pass (not due to an almost strip), Flacco would hold onto the ball, pull the ball back down, and be forced to work back through his progressions. That may be due to the play design or the excellent coverage of the Bills corners, but you could definitely see a difference between the two Flacco's.

Also, even when he was completing passes, Flacco wasn't always stepping into throws. He was flat footed for many. He needs to get his mechanics back on par.

I watched it (thanks for the tip) and I'm not sure if it's really every throw because the Perriman catch wasn't in there, but I thought he looked just fine. Even with the flat-footedness, I didn't see any accuracy issues. Only one or two passes didn't hit the receiver's hands. I was expecting worse because I didn't see the 2nd half, but it looks like we just had some unproductive screens and unfortunate completions just short of a 1st (And conservative throws, of course).

[BmoreBird22]

25 minutes ago, Moderator 2 said:

Not the tunnel but the players gate several hours before and after the game.

The players gate?

Edited September 12, 2016 by BmoreBird22

[ludy51]

Dat Perriman catch doe

[sharkh20]

The Good: Player of the day was Wright.  What a game.  Great pursuit to the ball.  Looked fast.

Defense played pretty well minus the non existent pass rush after we took the lead.

All the receivers we have.

 

The Bad:  Pass Rush

 

The Ugly:  Offense looked like "Here we go again" garbage.  I don't know how many times you have to do a 0 yard out before you realize it isn't going to work as your number one go to play.  Every time we have a 3rd and 4th down play, we do a play under the first down marker.  It is like watching an insane person make the same mistakes over and over with Trestman.  Meanwhile he is making me look insane yelling at the TV but that is another story.  I think he has a rule where he is only allowed to use the middle of the field less that 5 times a game.

Refs seemed to continue their trend of making up new rules to stop Rex Ryan teams.  I felt bad for Tyrod all last year and I would have felt bad for him again this game if it wasn't against the Ravens.  He plays well and every time it looks like his team has turned the momentum, I see a flag for calls I didn't even know existed.  Bailed us out multiple times and tried their best to give us points.

Edited September 12, 2016 by sharkh20

[ravensdfan]

1 hour ago, Tru11 said:

read better.

i said majority of the time , not all the time.

sure they had some nice plays and did a few things right at times but overall it was a terrible performance by the offense.

unless you had some very low expectations of course....

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think the offensive numbers are misleading. They weren't clicking to me - every play seemed choppy and they didn't seem on the same page. I felt the lack of timing and chemistry even through my TV.

Either Joe is antsy after last season's injury or that brace is the issue I was afraid it might be. He is not mobile at all. My biggest issue on offense though, outside of I felt we were way too conservative given we have Perriman and Wallace on the field, was the O line.

[Ravensfan23]

10 minutes ago, hawkprey said:

I watched it (thanks for the tip) and I'm not sure if it's really every throw because the Perriman catch wasn't in there, but I thought he looked just fine. Even with the flat-footedness, I didn't see any accuracy issues. Only one or two passes didn't hit the receiver's hands. I was expecting worse because I didn't see the 2nd half, but it looks like we just had some unproductive screens and unfortunate completions just short of a 1st (And conservative throws, of course).

Really? I thought he played well considering, but I definitely think there were accuracy issues. There were far too many RAC opportunities left on the field because Flacco wasn't stepping into his throws. That's one of the biggest reasons i'm excited about the offense because I expect Flacco to get more and more comfortable with the knee and not leave those throws on the field. The Ravens WRs should have racked up so many more yards and it would have opened up the offense even more imo. 

[DenverRaven]

We just won a game with two rookies on the left side of the line, a QB who tore two knee ligaments 9 months ago, and questions at nearly every position. Did I mention we did that against a pretty solid, good, not great team, who has some lofty expectations and high-caliber play makers?

This team has a ton of potential. Stay healthy, tidy up the pass rush, work on the run game, let Joe continue to knock off the rust.

[Ravensfan23]

4 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

Dat Perriman catch doe

Can't wait until that guy is full go. I'm sure the coaches probably wanted to see more of him but also didn't wanna put too much on him his first game with only a couple weeks of practice. 

[Ravenskid52752]

44 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Saying this you might as well be summoning me. That's my guy.

Right here with you Joey! I think he would be great in purple and black 

[allblackraven]

58 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

As someone at the game, I can attest that this is absolutely true. I went to a game last year and this is my first game this year, but I will tell you there's a big difference in communication back there. Weddle is making the calls back there and he is telling guys where to go, or Webb is giving that direction but not as much. Last year you had CBs like Jimmy Smith trying to do it and it just doesn't work as well. Nobody knew who to trust last year and that was a truly big problem back in the secondary. You saw guys pointing this way and that way and now, we have a lot of the same thoughts and more coordination on the back end. You see safeties knowing where to be on every play and not questioning where they should line-up and CBs understood their assignments and who was covering who for the most part. I think I saw a play where nobody covered some guy in the slot, but other than that, it worked great--even on that play I saw Mosley hustle over to the edge to contain that guy once Taylor snapped the ball. Also, Levine had a great game when I saw him on the field and I think he's making a nice impact, too. I remember one play where Taylor snapped the ball and on the left side of the offense you had I think 3 receiving targets from the Bills. You had I think a TE in the slot, with two WR on the edge. I think Jimmy was playing off while I believe I saw Young playing man and nobody was covering the TE. That's the play I am referring to above where Mosley slid over from the RIGHT side of the offense and covered the TE and it really disrupted Taylor. You could see he got really confused. I think it was in the 4th quarter, maybe 3rd. 

I think Pees on the sideline helped tremendously with communicating, as well. Makes all the difference with his not so simple play calling.

[hawkprey]

1 minute ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Really? I thought he played well considering, but I definitely think there were accuracy issues. There were far too many RAC opportunities left on the field because Flacco wasn't stepping into his throws. That's one of the biggest reasons i'm excited about the offense because I expect Flacco to get more and more comfortable with the knee and not leave those throws on the field. The Ravens WRs should have racked up so many more yards and it would have opened up the offense even more imo. 

I saw some low throws to protect the receiver and just secure the 1st down. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm assuming he was playing it safe and not misfiring. Especially on broken plays where the WR is coming back to the ball.

[DomMcRaven]

Here's a little fun fact: we're 3-0 against Ed Reed since he left us (HOU, NYJ, BUF).

[respecttheRaven]

After reading all comments...it is amazing and somewhat comical to me how differently we all see things. 

[ravensdfan]

3 minutes ago, respecttheRaven said:

After reading all comments...it is amazing and somewhat comical to me how differently we all see things. 

LOL

Don't know that the opinions are all that different in the end.

Defense played well overall. Some great individual performances.

Offense struggled overall but showed some great potential.

It just becomes a case of people putting their expectations and the results side by side. If expectations were higher, then the performance wasn't as good.

 

If any of that makes sense. lol

[flynismo]

5 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

it was one completed pass.  was good but...wallace seems to be in his form.   starting to think he might be our #1 guy

Agreed on Wallace. I expected us to use him in various roles -- possession guy, slot guy, deep ball guy, and we got to see a little bit of that today. He is going to have a big season.

And my god, that throw and catch on the first Perriman play...that is EXACTLY what this offense has lacked since...1996?

[sibelius]

We have bonafide play makers on both sides of the ball. It's a beautiful thing. All they need to do is settle down and we're going to see some good things this season if we can stay healthy.

Edited September 12, 2016 by sibelius