Michael Pierce

[JoeyFlex5]

42 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I think Pierce may rack up a lot of tackles behind the line in the first couple weeks simply because he's an unknown and people aren't game-planning against him yet. Though even when they start paying attention to him, he'll just open things up for others.

One interesting thing to keep in mind is how good Mosley is at blitzing the A gap. Mosley will get to blitz between Williams and Pierce. He could have an easy time going through an open lane as those two each take up two blockers.

i freaking LOVE when we send mosley on the blitz. he does it so well, times it so perfect, and he brings the pain when he blitzes, he has one thing on his mind and that is getting the ball in a defenders hands.

[757RavensFan]

I'm hoping the coaches are coming up w/ a scheme that has Pierce and B. Will on the line at the same time. 

[Filmstudy]

1 hour ago, 757RavensFan said:

I'm hoping the coaches are coming up w/ a scheme that has Pierce and B. Will on the line at the same time. 

It will happen in short yardage situations, and I suspect opposing teams will have a lot of difficulty scheming against it.  

Those 2 are less likely to produce pressure personally against the pass, but as RaineV1 points out, there are many ways to scheme blitzes behind or around them.  Those guys will be able to turn 3 sets of shoulders between them on many plays.

Edited September 11, 2016 by Filmstudy

[Willbacker]

2 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

I'm hoping the coaches are coming up w/ a scheme that has Pierce and B. Will on the line at the same time. 

Siragusa/Sam Adams.

[757RavensFan]

20 minutes ago, Filmstudy said:

It will happen in short yardage situations, and I suspect opposing teams will have a lot of difficulty scheming against it.  

Those 2 are less likely to produce pressure personally against the pass, but as RaineV1 points out, there are many ways to scheme blitzes behind or around them.  Those guys will be able to turn 3 sets of shoulders between them on many plays.

Pretty much assumed they will be in on goal line defense.  But the way they collapse the pocket, I wouldn't be surprised if they're in on certain passing situation. 

[ellicottraven]

2 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

I'm hoping the coaches are coming up w/ a scheme that has Pierce and B. Will on the line at the same time. 

Add Jernigan to that mix and I see a potent, stout and penetrating D-line up the middle! Low centers of gravity and bull strong up the middle!

[GrimCoconut]

I really like this guy a lot. He's shown he can stop the run but has rare ability to beat his man inside for interior pressure despite his size. 

[52520Andrew]

I saw him in there a bit today although I wasn't paying a ton of attention to him going between the Ravens and O's game

[Maryland]

I feel like I shouldn't have to do this, but I have to give the coaching staff credit for making him active and actually using him in the first game of the season. You wouldn't see some conservative coaching staffs play a rookie UDFA on week 1 just on principle (John Fox and retired Tom Coughlin come to mind).

[Filmstudy]

2 hours ago, Maryland said:

I feel like I shouldn't have to do this, but I have to give the coaching staff credit for making him active and actually using him in the first game of the season. You wouldn't see some conservative coaching staffs play a rookie UDFA on week 1 just on principle (John Fox and retired Tom Coughlin come to mind).

Not only did they activate him, but he played 14 snaps.  All of those were with Williams and the Bills gave up on running the ball in the middle of the field with them in.

It's funny, Solomon Wilcotts said the McCoy touchdown was run behind Richie Incognito.  It was run outside LT (away from Pierce/Williams), so it had about as much to do with Incognito as el Nino.  

[GrimCoconut]

5 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

Not only did they activate him, but he played 14 snaps.  All of those were with Williams and the Bills gave up on running the ball in the middle of the field with them in.

It's funny, Solomon Wilcotts said the McCoy touchdown was run behind Richie Incognito.  It was run outside LT (away from Pierce/Williams), so it had about as much to do with Incognito as el Nino.  

I suspect Pierce and Williams will help us stop getting beat up the middle on those 4th and short plays or QB sneaks like we've seen recently. Our goal-line stand was great yesterday. I haven't seen stuff like that in a while. 

[52liveforever]

I love B-will, but Pierce really takes a lot of pressure off of the front office in resigning him. Pierce has that thing B-will is missing in the pass rushing department.

[terps85]

He is good.

[RayRocks]

He has a lot of room for improvement, but he's shown the most potential out of probably all of our rookies so far (with a few other guys having good showings so far).  I agree that if he keeps it up, it'll make it easier to let B-Will go at the end of the year.

[Somerset Ravens]

Pierce provides more depth to DL rotation. I am anxious to see him progress this season.

[GrimCoconut]

Why not keep both Williams and Pierce and have a nice interior duo that can do some amazing things together? I really like the combo we have going with Willierce. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I never ever ever say this about UDFAs. 

 

But this guys has legit all pro potential he can actually do very good vs the run and the pass and is only going to get better. He can put interior pressure on the line in many facets. He's what I was expecting Willie Henry to be, and we haven't even factored him in yet or Kaufausi. Keep him, and keep Williams and my god. That front 7 is gonna be scary in 2-3 years, especially if Judon keeps progressing

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

5 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why not keep both Williams and Pierce and have a nice interior duo that can do some amazing things together? I really like the combo we have going with Willierce. 

 

Add in Jernigan who seems to be playing possessed, and potentially fellow athletic freak in Kaufausi and a guy who's only a healthy scratch because we've got insane depth at the position in Henry, with freaking Lawerence Guy who is a very good interior rusher as it stands in?

 

Holy crap. Resign Williams and have a loaded front 7 please. Next year we could be scary good so long as Judon progresses. 

[Sami84]

In just 14 pass rush snaps he is by that ratio only second to aaron donald 

[Sami84]

jernigan is number 20 while urban and guy are middle of the card 

 

brandon williams is almost at the bottom at 92 :/

[Sami84]

So far Jack Conklin has been the best LT rookie but stanley has done well so far too.

[Sami84]

wagner is number 3 with the best pass protection of all tackles. yes ALL tackles.

[Sami84]

just for the record our best player this season so far in PFF has been eric weddle. Number 1 SS in the league. Webb is near the bottom but he's webb and harbs loves him more than any other player and will always have a place here. 

 

Tavon Young has been our highest rated corner.

 

[Davesta]

47 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

just for the record our best player this season so far in PFF has been eric weddle. Number 1 SS in the league. Webb is near the bottom but he's webb and harbs loves him more than any other player and will always have a place here. 

 

Tavon Young has been our highest rated corner.

 

Wish we kept Terrence brooks stil. Holding onto webby for too long

[Maryland]

Pierce is having the hottest start of any UDFA I've ever seen (granted, I don't go around studying everyone's UDFAs every year, but Doug Baldwin was a huge impact his rookie year, and that's the best I can remember). He destroyed Cam Erving, who, granted, is a bust, but he also blew by Bitonio for a sack, and he's one of the best guards in the league. 

He is one of those rare nose tackles who can help as a pass-rusher (though he's been used more as a DT I think). He might not stop the run like B.Williams, but Pierce has got the pass rush skills that he lacks. If he keeps up this pace, he'll have to be in the conversation for Def. Rookie of the Year--a rare thing for an interior DL, and unheard of for a UDFA. He has to keep it up though and not hit that rookie wall. 

[Jacquouille]

Starting the "Pierce for DROY" campaign 

[Sami84]

it was about time we found a new bart scott caliber UDFA..

[izvoodoo]

On 9/11/2016 at 8:41 AM, Willbacker said:

Siragusa/Sam Adams.

That was such a 4-3 front though.  Not to say we can't use those schemes, but that was a very different thing. 

[RayRocks]

11 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why not keep both Williams and Pierce and have a nice interior duo that can do some amazing things together? I really like the combo we have going with Willierce. 

I think we'd all LIKE to keep Williams.  It's just going to depend on how much he'll command on the open market (which will likely be Top 5 NT money).  I don't think it'll be Top 5 DT money since almost all of those guys are pass rushers, but it could be at least 7-9 mil per year to keep Williams.

[JoeyFlex5]

On 9/12/2016 at 1:40 AM, Maryland said:

I feel like I shouldn't have to do this, but I have to give the coaching staff credit for making him active and actually using him in the first game of the season. You wouldn't see some conservative coaching staffs play a rookie UDFA on week 1 just on principle (John Fox and retired Tom Coughlin come to mind).

I was surprised to see it myself. We will activate these guys and then limit them to special teams or goal line. 

However, I think our philosophy is changing. We've watched older slower veterans get abused by younger faster guys for too long and I think our coaches finally understand that it's a young man's game and you need explosive athletes to win.