2016 Week 1 Other Teams

[MTRavensFan]

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Man... I hate seeing aqib talib happy. I wish bad things on him because he is a bad person and deserves it. I absolutely despise the Broncos and it's 100% because he plays for them.

I hate it too, although I have to admit it's maybe only partly because of Talib, the remainder has to go to Elway and the ex. But then I remember how Talib shot himself in the leg this summer too drunk and stupid to realize what he was doing, and I think, maybe there is some justice in this world.

Ice up, son, you're gonna need it!

[BmoreBird22]

7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Man... I hate seeing aqib talib happy. I wish bad things on him because he is a bad person and deserves it. I absolutely despise the Broncos and it's 100% because he plays for them.

Just curious, what makes him so bad that you would wish ill fate upon him?

[BmoreBird22]

6 hours ago, allblackraven said:

They are going to miss Trevathan and will definitely miss Malik Jackson.

 

5 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

Yeah. Trevathan seems like he was a leader on that defense and the on field brains of it.

I actually think Todd Davis will fill in just fine. He played really well in his spot start duties last year and played really well last night.

I'd be more worried about replacing Malik Jackson with Jared Crick.

[RaineV1]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

 

I actually think Todd Davis will fill in just fine. He played really well in his spot start duties last year and played really well last night.

I'd be more worried about replacing Malik Jackson with Jared Crick.

That's definitely a clear cut downgrade to their line. They'll definitely have a harder time getting inside pressure and stopping the run now.

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, RaineV1 said:

That's definitely a clear cut downgrade to their line. They'll definitely have a harder time getting inside pressure and stopping the run now.

They went from a top 10 PFF player to a not even top 75 PFF player (thought that was really cool how they used those).

Pretty surprised they didn't go hard in on a defensive tackle at any point. I understood the moves to get a quarterback, but pressure might be equally important.

[RaineV1]

26 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

They went from a top 10 PFF player to a not even top 75 PFF player (thought that was really cool how they used those).

Pretty surprised they didn't go hard in on a defensive tackle at any point. I understood the moves to get a quarterback, but pressure might be equally important.

They did grab a solid DT in the second round, Adam Gotsis, who played decently when he got time to in the fourth quarter. I think he will eventually take playing time away from Crick, but it's a work in progress.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, RaineV1 said:

They did grab a solid DT in the second round, Adam Gotsis, who played decently when he got time to in the fourth quarter. I think he will eventually take playing time away from Crick, but it's a work in progress.

Not gonna lie. No idea who Gotsis is.

[OUravensfan]

General consensus in NFL Reddit is that Denver got away with 4 helmet to helmet hits on Cam, I'd say one was intentionally and the other 3 were incidental, I don't want to see situations where someone is wrapping up and their helmet grazes that other players helmet only for it not to be called.

[berad]

Ron Rivera coached a really, really poor game and it looked like his team was under-prepared.

From Newton burning three timeouts in the first 18 minutes, the Sanders TO/Challenge fiasco where is his defense was visibly incensed that they had to call and timeout on what should have been an obvious challenge call, and general sloppy play.

[OUravensfan]

On the flip side it seems the NFL applies double standards to the application of certain penalties, A Brown allowed to push off all the time, Seattle and Denver allowed to make violent hits, etc. I know we're flagged all day long for those 4 hits, not a doubt in my mind.

[RaineV1]

34 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Not gonna lie. No idea who Gotsis is.

Not surprised. He was a very under the radar player going into the draft. Here's his draft profile. He's one of those high potential linemen physically (country strong, quick burst, good overall athleticism) that needs time to be coached up on the fundamentals. Admittedly I only know him since I was looking for potential front seven picks the Ravens could make before the draft, and he seemed like the type Ozzie would get.

[redlobster]

Denver defense looks like it can be run on, pretty easily

[redlobster]

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Just curious, what makes him so bad that you would wish ill fate upon him?

He's a terrible human. The constant cheap hits, constant drug use ( at least in college), shooting himself, pistol whipping people , etc

Edited September 9, 2016 by redlobster

[BmoreBird22]

14 minutes ago, redlobster said:

He's a terrible human. The constant cheap hits, constant drug use ( at least in college), shooting himself, pistol whipping people , etc

Drug use and shooting himself in the leg doesn't make him a horrible person if he's not affecting anyone else. Plenty of good people use recreational drugs, especially in high stress environments. Fun fact- did you know renal nurses have the highest overdose rate from drug abuse in their own hospital? I'm sure all of them are horrible, horrible people.

 And while shooting himself in the leg is an act of sheer stupidity, you'd be really stretching it to say it makes him a horrible human being.

And as far as the pistol whipping goes, that was dropped due to insufficient evidence and character concerns of the accuser, so not really sure I can take him too seriously there. 

So what it boils down to is that on the football field, he poked a guy in the eye last season and now we should wish horrible things happen to him?

Edited September 9, 2016 by BmoreBird22

[redlobster]

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Drug use and shooting himself in the leg doesn't make him a horrible person if he's not affecting anyone else. Plenty of good people use recreational drugs, especially in high stress environments. Fun fact- did you know renal nurses have the highest overdose rate from drug abuse in their own hospital? I'm sure all of them are horrible, horrible people.

 And while shooting himself in the leg is an act of sheer stupidity, you'd be really stretching it to say it makes him a horrible human being.

And as far as the pistol whipping goes, that was dropped due to insufficient evidence and character concerns of the accuser, so not really sure I can take him too seriously there. 

So what it boils down to is that on the football field, he poked a guy in the eye last season and now we should wish horrible things happen to him?

You are actually defending him?

I have done and still do Human Resources in healthcare and would prefer some data to back up your Renal nurses claim but its common that people that have access to drugs will have a higher abuse rate, I do look at them as horrible people and terminate them whenever possible.

Shooting himself in the leg is negligent and dangerous but lets not worry about the un-involved people nearby, I guess people that drive drunk aren't horrible people either?

Charges dropped mean nothing because the accuser was being squeezed by high powered attorneys, talib fired a gun at him, how many times have you heard athletes or celebrities getting charges dropped?

[JO_75]

3 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

General consensus in NFL Reddit is that Denver got away with 4 helmet to helmet hits on Cam, I'd say one was intentionally and the other 3 were incidental, I don't want to see situations where someone is wrapping up and their helmet grazes that other players helmet only for it not to be called.

What made those calls non-calls much more interesting is the fact that Cam Newton had absolutely no Roughing The Passer Penalties called all last year, including the playoffs and Super Bowl. Also last year, Cam spoke out against Official Gene Steratore and how he isn't giving him "calls"(the same calls that even if a fly goes by Brady, Roughing the Passer will be called) on purpose. Last night, the official was none other than Gene Steratore.

[redlobster]

http://imgur.com/Mn1z9Ld?r

 

hits cam took last night to the head, how blatant the marshall hit was , text book launching hit, same hit that got james Harrison suspended?

Edited September 9, 2016 by redlobster

[berad]

53 minutes ago, redlobster said:

http://imgur.com/Mn1z9Ld?r

 

hits cam took last night to the head, how blatant the marshall hit was , text book launching hit, same hit that got james Harrison suspended?

Miller looked more like he was going for the ball but Marshall and Stewart will be getting fines for sure. Marshall's definitely was launching although you could make the case Cam was running towards the LOS and negating his QB protections.

[BmoreBird22]

1 hour ago, redlobster said:

You are actually defending him?

I have done and still do Human Resources in healthcare and would prefer some data to back up your Renal nurses claim but its common that people that have access to drugs will have a higher abuse rate, I do look at them as horrible people and terminate them whenever possible.

Shooting himself in the leg is negligent and dangerous but lets not worry about the un-involved people nearby, I guess people that drive drunk aren't horrible people either?

Charges dropped mean nothing because the accuser was being squeezed by high powered attorneys, talib fired a gun at him, how many times have you heard athletes or celebrities getting charges dropped?

My mother's boyfriend is a nurse and her bestfriend was a registered nurse in charge of oversight. I'll see if I can find a statistic, but I'd hardly think that makes them a horrible person to use a recreational drug. Trust me, you probably don't even realize how many of your employees do drugs because unless they're doing it on the job, you won't notice, and even then, there may not be a noticeable change.

Absolutely nothing suggests that he was flailing a gun around or pointing at people. It was also 3:30 AM, so I highly doubt people are out, anyway. It could have been that the safety was off. From the sounds of it, it was probably in his back pocket facing down, so not really posing a huge threat to other people right there. 

How many times is it due to a complete lack of evidence and character concerns? Hey, Zeke Elliot got accused of assaulting a girl with nothing to prove that he did it. Suppose he's a bad guy.

I don't really feel toward Talib one way or the other, but to have ill wishes toward another human being that has done absolutely nothing to you, hasn't hurt anyone you know, or committed acts of terrorism is just as bad in my book.

Edited September 9, 2016 by BmoreBird22

[JO_75]

The Vikings have named Shaun Hill the starter on Sunday against the Titans. Looks like Bradford will be held off until next week's home opener against the Packers.

[JO_75]

The start of the Madden curse? Rob Gronkowski has been ruled out(I say that because while they list him as questionable, he did not fly to Arizona with the rest of the team) of Sunday Night's game against the Cardinals.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000697735/article/rob-gronkowski-not-expected-to-play-vs-cardinals

[RaineV1]

5 hours ago, JO_75 said:

The Vikings have named Shaun Hill the starter on Sunday against the Titans. Looks like Bradford will be held off until next week's home opener against the Packers.

That's actually a smart move by them. It'll take a little while before Bradford knows the playbook and starting him right away could be a disaster.

4 hours ago, JO_75 said:

The start of the Madden curse? Rob Gronkowski has been ruled out(I say that because while they list him as questionable, he did not fly to Arizona with the rest of the team) of Sunday Night's game against the Cardinals.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000697735/article/rob-gronkowski-not-expected-to-play-vs-cardinals

...note to self, start Bennett at TE this week in Fantasy.

[JO_75]

1 hour ago, RaineV1 said:

That's actually a smart move by them. It'll take a little while before Bradford knows the playbook and starting him right away could be a disaster.

...note to self, start Bennett at TE this week in Fantasy.

Be careful, the Patriots have also ruled out 2 starting offensive lineman, Left Tackle Nate Solder and Right Guard Jonathon Cooper. So it seems Cooper will miss the game against his old team while Chandler Jones might make things a bit tough on Jimmy losing his usual blind side protector.

In other injury news, Matthew Stafford and any Lions WR may have just become a hot fantasy hand for Sunday. Colts will be without CB Vontae Davis and Darius Butler on Sunday. 

Note to Self... see if any starting WRs are free agents in Fantasy ASAP.

[RaineV1]

38 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

Be careful, the Patriots have also ruled out 2 starting offensive lineman, Left Tackle Nate Solder and Right Guard Jonathon Cooper. So it seems Cooper will miss the game against his old team while Chandler Jones might make things a bit tough on Jimmy losing his usual blind side protector.

In other injury news, Matthew Stafford and any Lions WR may have just become a hot fantasy hand for Sunday. Colts will be without CB Vontae Davis and Darius Butler on Sunday. 

Note to Self... see if any starting WRs are free agents in Fantasy ASAP.

Yeah, that's a good point. If Brady was still starting I'd have full confidence that he'd get it out to Bennett often. With Garoppolo behind a banged up line, that could be trouble. Think I'll go with Jared Cook instead as the safer TE.

[allblackraven]

5 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

That's actually a smart move by them. It'll take a little while before Bradford knows the playbook and starting him right away could be a disaster.

They could also go through 10 passing plays from the book with Bradford, then do what they do best - give the ball to Peterson. Problem solved.

[RaineV1]

9 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

They could also go through 10 passing plays from the book with Bradford, then do what they do best - give the ball to Peterson. Problem solved.

I don't think the Vikings' defense is good enough to win through running the way the Broncos and Seahawks have before.

[allblackraven]

2 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I don't think the Vikings' defense is good enough to win through running the way the Broncos and Seahawks have before.

I reckon they are pretty underrated on D. At least last season they were.

[RaineV1]

14 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I reckon they are pretty underrated on D. At least last season they were.

They are a very good defense, but to win big games that way you can't just be really good. You have to be great. Like, top 3 defense for that year.

[OUravensfan]

On September 9, 2016 at 0:21 PM, JO_75 said:

What made those calls non-calls much more interesting is the fact that Cam Newton had absolutely no Roughing The Passer Penalties called all last year, including the playoffs and Super Bowl. Also last year, Cam spoke out against Official Gene Steratore and how he isn't giving him "calls"(the same calls that even if a fly goes by Brady, Roughing the Passer will be called) on purpose. Last night, the official was none other than Gene Steratore.

That's interesting 

[JO_75]

It's officially Sunday which means it's finally GAMEDAY!