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[News] Ravens Trim 2016 Roster To 53 Players

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  2 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

He will never make it through waivers. Watch and see.

why not?

Ahhhh.....because he is pretty good and for a reference , the Eagles just got a 1 and a 4th round pick for Sam Bradford. Decent Qb's are ALWAYS in high demand.
Hopefully, there was an attempt made to trade him, as they had plenty of time to explore the option.

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1 minute ago, ravensnj said:

Ahhhh.....because he is pretty good and for a reference , the Eagles just got a 1 and a 4th round pick for Sam Bradford. Decent Qb's are ALWAYS in high demand.
Hopefully, there was an attempt made to trade him, as they had plenty of time to explore the option.

sorry thought you were talking about ochi

johnson doesnt go through waivers coz hes a vet

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If I were the Vikings, I would've made a less costly trade offer for Mallett than paying such a high price for the injury-prone Bradford. Perhaps they wanted another QB who can't throw downfield so the WRs wouldn't get confused.

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2 hours ago, ravensprobowld said:

Kept camp over butler and elm over brooks what are they thinking. Another year of suckery due to injuries. Hate to say it but pitta wont make it halfway through the season.

Why do you say such things about Pitta? Are you a fan of this team - go wash your mouth out with soap!!

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It will be a crazy next few days as teams will go after proven vets who have been cut, and young potential players for their PS.......

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I would have cut Carter, put Price & Elam on IR and use those 3 spots have kept Brooks, Butler and Forsett. Think Reynolds should have added to IR somehow, would have had a better chance to make to roster next year.

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  2 hours ago, stixfix69 said:

The reason why i am miffed about Brooks is because he could play safety, and CB and has 4.40 speed. Also you just never know if Webb will miss games, and i much rather of had Brooks as the backup Safety than Kendrick Lewis....Plus Lewis has missed a lot of practices and pre-season games......JMO....

BINGO

Brooks has hands of stone, we need playmakers who can intercept passes.

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  2 hours ago, Raven6140 said:
  2 hours ago, stixfix69 said:

The reason why i am miffed about Brooks is because he could play safety, and CB and has 4.40 speed. Also you just never know if Webb will miss games, and i much rather of had Brooks as the backup Safety than Kendrick Lewis....Plus Lewis has missed a lot of practices and pre-season games......JMO....

BINGO

Brooks has hands of stone, we need playmakers who can intercept passes.

We need players who can tackle, and break up passes, and Brooks did it all through OTA'S, in camp, and in pre-season games....

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If Ozzie doesn't get it right this season, he can kiss it good bye. His last several drafts have been total overall busts. ESPN, may come knocking for a studio talking head!

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2 minutes ago, throwback2000 said:

If Ozzie doesn't get it right this season, he can kiss it good bye. His last several drafts have been total overall busts. ESPN, may come knocking for a studio talking head!

i wouldnt say the last several have been busts:

last 3 drafts:

2014: cj mosley, timmy jernigan, crockett gilmore (all starters already), john urschel (about to potentially start), brent urban (you can include campanaro as well if you want)... so that's 4 starters and 1 rotational piece and add zach orr as another starter as a udfa

2015: breshad perriman (still up in the air but looks promising), maxx, carl davis (rotational piece), zadarius smith (has started and has flashed), buck allen (good receiving back), nick boyle, darren waller (both suspended but have shown promise - boyle especially)... so that's 2/3 potential future starters and maybe 2 or 3 more rotational pieces

2016: 9 rookies made the 53 + michael pierce udfa - 4 of these rookies are expected to play big roles and some have the opportunity to play their way into playing time... so far this class has 1 starter already (maybe even 2 if alex lewis starts) and a whole lot of promising rotational pieces

 

you can level criticism that ozzie hasnt found multiple probowlers in recent times but he has consistently found quality pieces... and yes he's missed and it seems like he misses more because upshaw and KO have gone and elam and arthur brown look like busts but that's a 2 year streak that started the year after we got both jimmy and torrey smith

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Baffling to me, is that Brooks was cut, when they could have retained Brooks, and just parted ways with injured Elam. If they were going to put him on IR anyways, then just cut him and give him an injury settlement. They already have opted to not take his 5th year option, so the writing was on the wall already.

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If Ozzie doesn't get it right this season, he can kiss it good bye. His last several drafts have been total overall busts. ESPN, may come knocking for a studio talking head!

Not at all. Ozzie is not on the hot seat. He gives Harbaugh what he wants. Harbaugh makes the final decisions. He's the one who will be feeling the heat if this team tanks again this year. Bottom line, Biscotti knows who's responsible for the coaching staff and talent on the field.

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18 hours ago, throwback2000 said:

If Ozzie doesn't get it right this season, he can kiss it good bye. His last several drafts have been total overall busts. ESPN, may come knocking for a studio talking head!

Ozzie and Co. been making solid moves every since he came to Bmore

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  13 hours ago, sami said:

whats a guy like Butler gotta do to make this squad? With Perriman still pretty much untested, SSS questionable if he'll make it back as good as he was before, and all the injuries we had last year to our WR's, I don't understand cutting Butler.

Apparently get injured and be a bust like Elam lmao Ozzie has lost his touch ever sense we won the Super Bowl back in 2012....The Front Office Just Hasnt been the same Decision Making Wise....

I agree 100%

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I've always said that Oz is losing it- our past 5 drafts have been miserable. With that said, Oz overpaid for Forsett and he deserved to be cut based upon performance- good guy, but he didn't deserve to be paid $3M a year as he was a product of Kubiak's system. I also bet that the OC/ Trestman didn't want Forsett either- it's kind of funny to see how Forsett was considered one of our most popular/ better players on our team with all the national media coverage his cut got- that also has to show you how our roster stinks if he's getting all this attention because he's not that good- just saying.. Go Oz!!

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I would have cut Carter, put Price & Elam on IR and use those 3 spots have kept Brooks, Butler and Forsett. Think Reynolds should have added to IR somehow, would have had a better chance to make to roster next year.

West and dixion out ran forsett and as far as butler goes I think Devin Hester is taking that 6th and final spot ...hopefully if they're able to sign him. In my opinion though Elam looked a lot better then Brooks before the injury and he's a former first rounder Thats hard to just give up on. My guess is he'll go on IR designated to return list and give him one more shot to prove himself.

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  9 hours ago, throwback2000 said:

If Ozzie doesn't get it right this season, he can kiss it good bye. His last several drafts have been total overall busts. ESPN, may come knocking for a studio talking head!

Not at all. Ozzie is not on the hot seat. He gives Harbaugh what he wants. Harbaugh makes the final decisions. He's the one who will be feeling the heat if this team tanks again this year. Bottom line, Biscotti knows who's responsible for the coaching staff and talent on the field.

You are delusional pal. The only thing Harbags has final decision on is what he's gonna have for lunch that day.

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With only two RB's on the roster for the first game I'm thinking the pass/run ratio will be 80/20? Kind of scary/interesting only have two RB's.

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Fans should keep in mind the influence of other coaches on the staff when it comes to cutting players. Trestman is not a fan of the run so he probably looks at the position as if they are a dime a dozen. That made Foresett expendable. Rossburg is the assistant head coach and special teams coach. The yards given up during the preseason was not going to be tolerated. Butler can't return and there were comments by the media that Brooks not giving the effort on SP coverage. The comment about Brooks having hands of stone is exaggerated in my opinion. If DBs had were supposed to have good hands , they would have been Wrs. I can't see Webb or Weddle tackling a TE or RB in the open field. You need guys who can tackle. Brooks looked like he did that well. I think they will miss him or someone to take that role.

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With only two RB's on the roster for the first game I'm thinking the pass/run ratio will be 80/20? Kind of scary/interesting only have two RB's.

To start the season. Dixon will be back in a few weeks. Taliafero is on the PUP list and should be able to return at some point.

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15 hours ago, sami said:

whats a guy like Butler gotta do to make this squad? With Perriman still pretty much untested, SSS questionable if he'll make it back as good as he was before, and all the injuries we had last year to our WR's, I don't understand cutting Butler.

He has to be better than average. He is okay at a lot of things, but great at none of them. He is a poor mans Kamar Aiken and with Kamar on the team he becomes redundant.  He doesn't have any qualities that are unique.

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Steve Smith, Aiken, Wallace, Perriman, Chris Moore, Pitta, Gillmore, Maxx Williams, Kyle Juice, Buck Allen, West, Flacco, Mallett, Stanley, Alex Lewis, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Urshel, Jensen, Hurst. Ravens offense should be fine but expect Flacco to be throwing the ball around. Trestman's offense runs through their SB MVP QB.

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Last season when the Ravens were getting torch and some fans on this blog defended OZ, the front office and coaches stating its the players. The coaches and Front believe that the pass rush was the bigger issue and absence of Suggs proved devastating. Harbs also mentioned the desired to run the ball better. The first three picks were LT, ILB, and DE . Now that Ravens been through a draft with the 6th overall pick and made close to final cuts, how do you feel about the secondary, pass rush, and ability to run the ball? Keep in mind that the Chargers had a worst pass defense than Ravens so thinking Weddle alone will turn thing around may be foolish. I think the Front did what they always do. They kill it with mid round picks and adding key veterans, but are not able to add playmakers in the first few rounds. Only time will tell if empathizing the front seven and counting on older players, mid-late round picks and undrafted CBs to counter opponent's stud Wrs will be enough.

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I have faith in Buck Allen and West to still be able to run the ball in week one at home against the Bills. They have key personnel missing from their front seven to start the season. And the Ravens front seven will be giving Tyrod Taylor nightmares.

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  16 hours ago, sami said:

whats a guy like Butler gotta do to make this squad? With Perriman still pretty much untested, SSS questionable if he'll make it back as good as he was before, and all the injuries we had last year to our WR's, I don't understand cutting Butler.

He has to be better than average. He is okay at a lot of things, but great at none of them. He is a poor mans Kamar Aiken and with Kamar on the team he becomes redundant.  He doesn't have any qualities that are unique.

Good point. Not a difference maker, just another guy like Tanden Doss if you will.

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I would like us to pursue that LG Josh Sitton of the Green Bay Packers to bolster our left side of the O-line with Alex Lewis backing him up. I'm assuming however that the reason for his release was cap related and not performance related of course. We have the necessary cap space to bolster that area and help Stanley out. I'm hopeful that the Ravens are thinking along the same lines and are already sending out feelers to his camp...

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