Bradford to Vikings

[bosso_fataka]

For a 1st and a 4th. Just wow...

[bosso_fataka]

The move just feels like total panic from the Vikings management. I might have considered giving up a 2nd at most...

[BmoreBird22]

This is similar to when Kolb fetched a second and DRC for the Eagles.

If you can play moderately well and stay out of trouble, you will get paid or fetch high picks.

[balfan23]

Wow ... this just seems absolutely stupid. Bradford is a loaner at best and to give up a first is way too much. Then, let's throw a 4th rounder on top of that? Crazy.

I don't know, maybe Bradford will surprise me or at least do well enough to manage the game and use a solid defense and good running game to make the Vikes a contender ... personally I just can't see mortgaging your future to be pretty good for a year. 

[bosso_fataka]

The more I think about it, the more stupid it seems. I´m assuming the still see Bridgewater as their starter for years to come. Why on earth would you give up a 1st and a 4th for a one year rental that has proved nothing beyond average and being very injury prone? I just don´t get it.

[ludy51]

2 hours ago, balfan23 said:

Wow ... this just seems absolutely stupid. Bradford is a loaner at best and to give up a first is way too much. Then, let's throw a 4th rounder on top of that? Crazy.

I don't know, maybe Bradford will surprise me or at least do well enough to manage the game and use a solid defense and good running game to make the Vikes a contender ... personally I just can't see mortgaging your future to be pretty good for a year. 

On top of that there's this:

If Vikings go to NFC Championship game this season, conditional 4th-round pick in 2018 becomes a 3rd; if Vikings win SB, it becomes a 2nd.

[balfan23]

1 minute ago, ludy51 said:

On top of that there's this:

If Vikings go to NFC Championship game this season, conditional 4th-round pick in 2018 becomes a 3rd; if Vikings win SB, it becomes a 2nd.

Well, I'm sure the Vikes would be happy to part with another 1st in 2018, if the result of this trade gave them a SB this year. Looking at those parameters and then looking at their team, I'm willing to bet that they are only giving up a 4th rounder in 2018. 

[PolishRifle]

A 1st rounder and a 4th rounder for Bradford, who gets hurt routinely? Wow, that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen since the the Colts gave up a 1st rounder for Trent Richardson.

I'm really surprised no one gives Mccarron a shot. He was pretty good playing for the Bengals, when Dalton went down and I feel like he has grown ever since. You'd atleast get someone with a future in the league for your draft picks and not some, who is hurt all the time.

Walterfootball.com brings up a good point. The Browns own Phillys 1st round draft pick. Without Bradford on their team, they might actually get a really high pick in return.

Edited September 3, 2016 by PolishRifle

[balfan23]

We've looked at this almost completely from the Vikings perspective - Philly really going all in on Wentz with this move. If he pans out, the Eagles are going to come up roses on this, but it could be an interesting season for them riding a rookie QB for the entire season. 

[RaineV1]

5 hours ago, PolishRifle said:

A 1st rounder and a 4th rounder for Bradford, who gets hurt routinely? Wow, that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen since the the Colts gave up a 1st rounder for Trent Richardson.

 

Yeah, it really reminded me of that Richardson trade. I think this is the worst one since thing. A 1st for a one year loaner QB. This is really just incredibly bad on the Vikings' part.

[JO_75]

Thursday Night Vikings GM Rick Spielman had this much to say about a trade: “The one thing we will not do is put our organization in a situation where it’s going to inhibit us or hurt us going into the future,” Spielman said. “People are asking for some crazy things. People think we’re desperate. We’re not going to do something that in my estimation, in talking with Coach (Mike Zimmer) and our ownership, that puts us in a situation that jeopardizes the future of the franchise.”

Today: Gave up a 1st & 4th for and potentially higher for a one year rental in Sam Bradford. So what changed from Thursday Night that made this deal happen and do exactly what he said he wouldn't do and mortgage the future of the team.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

So people criticize Ozzie.. Hilarious. 

This is going to go down as one of the dumbest trades in the history of SPORTS. Not the NFL... SPORTS. Bradford is a one year rental. 

 

This just made the Cleveland Browns look semi-credible

[52520Andrew]

Got panic move written all over it

[ravensdan]

Eagles highway Robery of the apparently desperate Vikes. 

 

Eagles still have Daniel and wentz. 

[GrimCoconut]

A 1st and 4th round conditional pick? Why not just trade us Harrison Smith and we'd give them both Johnson and Mallett? I would've thrown in James Hurst, too, if they needed that sweetener. I mean, get real here. What a dumb move for them to trade for Sam "IR" Bradford. The guy gets hurt if you look at him wrong. I don't see how he keeps getting jobs. He's as fragile as cheap, wet toilet tissue. 

[JO_75]

After having time to think about this trade some more, I actually think this trade and acquiring Sam Bradford puts them right back into Super Bowl contention. Sure it's easy to sit here and say, it's only a one year rental, and why give up a first round pick for a player you only need for a year. Here's the thing about today's NFL, every coach and player are essentially on one year contracts every year in the new "Win Now" NFL that we see today. Gone are the days where coaches had time to get a roster built up over a 2-3 year period and ready for playoff contention. Now coaches seemingly are on the hot seat for just one losing season, and people were calling for Ron Rivera's head in his second season but now he's coming off a Super Bowl appearance. No more can players just develop, they have to contribute now or be considered a bust. 

The Vikings know that they had to do something to compete in the NFL for the 2016 season, they had to think about the upcoming season that starts next Sunday. Like I said it's easy to think ahead and go it's a one year rental and Bridgewater will be back next year but what are they going to do for this year if they just wait for Bridgewater to heal? Tank like the 2011 Colts, no of course not. Also I'l give you this... Sam Bradford vs Teddy Bridgewater 2015 Stat Comparison: 

Sam Bradford: 14 games 3,725 yards 19 TDs, 14 INTs Completion Percentage: 65%

Teddy Bridgewater: 16 Games: 3,231 Yards 14 TDs 9 INTs Completion Percentage: 65.3%

With very similar stats, and Sam Bradford having the same team that was around Bridgewater, there's no reason to think the Vikings could now go deep into the playoffs. If they are lucky and Bradford leads them into the playoffs, a potential Super Bowl appearance, they can turn around and flip Bradford to a QB needy team next year and regain a first round pick as he will be in hot demand. This is a win-win for the Vikings.

 

[BmoreBird22]

Here's the thing with this trade that I don't think people are taking into account.

Bridgewater's injury was so bad that the Vikings called 911. Never had Dr. Choi (who worked for three NFL teams in 15 years) seen an NFL team call 911. It was so severe that players were in tears, vomiting, and Zimmer cancelled practice. 

Bridgewater had a dislocated knee and a torn ACL, but there's a good chance (given the structural damage) that he tore one of the PCL, LCL, and MCL also, or all three. He didn't have nerve damage, which is what's setting Jaylon Smith back, but this is the same injury that put Marcus Lattimore out of football for life. 

Keep in mind, also, that the Vikings have an equally talented group of receivers and tight ends, but a far better running game, including the best running back of this generation, a top 5 defense, and a much better offensive line than he had with the Eagles. So, already, he's got an upgrade with the defense, offensive line, and running game. Try to keep in mind that with the defense, the Eagles were one of the worst in the NFL, meaning Bradford was likely going to be put into unfavorable passing situations. Here in Minnesota, that defense should keep him from having that happen and Peterson will ease the pressure.

Also, in the last five years, the Vikings have had 9 first round picks, including three in the same draft in 2013. The Vikings are extremely aggressive with when to trade up in the draft and when to stay put. Losing a first round pick for them probably isn't a huge deal because they're able to recoup picks in the draft. 

However, let me ask you all this- if you were told that you would win a Super Bowl IF you just gave up a first round pick (32) and a second round pick the year after, would you do it? Hell yes you would. 

I don't think Bradford is as bad as some are making him out to be. He's a fairly accurate passer who will work with short to intermediate passes that compliment the receivers in Minnesota well. This should be a good move for all parties involved.

[Cville-Raven]

The value just isn't there for me. Bradford isn't worth a 1st plain and simple. 

[bosso_fataka]

58 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Here's the thing with this trade that I don't think people are taking into account.

Bridgewater's injury was so bad that the Vikings called 911. Never had Dr. Choi (who worked for three NFL teams in 15 years) seen an NFL team call 911. It was so severe that players were in tears, vomiting, and Zimmer cancelled practice. 

Bridgewater had a dislocated knee and a torn ACL, but there's a good chance (given the structural damage) that he tore one of the PCL, LCL, and MCL also, or all three. He didn't have nerve damage, which is what's setting Jaylon Smith back, but this is the same injury that put Marcus Lattimore out of football for life. 

Keep in mind, also, that the Vikings have an equally talented group of receivers and tight ends, but a far better running game, including the best running back of this generation, a top 5 defense, and a much better offensive line than he had with the Eagles. So, already, he's got an upgrade with the defense, offensive line, and running game. Try to keep in mind that with the defense, the Eagles were one of the worst in the NFL, meaning Bradford was likely going to be put into unfavorable passing situations. Here in Minnesota, that defense should keep him from having that happen and Peterson will ease the pressure.

Also, in the last five years, the Vikings have had 9 first round picks, including three in the same draft in 2013. The Vikings are extremely aggressive with when to trade up in the draft and when to stay put. Losing a first round pick for them probably isn't a huge deal because they're able to recoup picks in the draft. 

However, let me ask you all this- if you were told that you would win a Super Bowl IF you just gave up a first round pick (32) and a second round pick the year after, would you do it? Hell yes you would. 

I don't think Bradford is as bad as some are making him out to be. He's a fairly accurate passer who will work with short to intermediate passes that compliment the receivers in Minnesota well. This should be a good move for all parties involved.

Fair points, I agree with most of it, and yes of course anyone would give up a 1st and a 2nd for a Super Bowl. If the Vikings do go on and win it with Bradford I stand corrected, but I still think that a 1st and a 4th is overpaying big time for Bradford at this point. And I don´t really see the Vikings as contenders, with either Bridgewater or Bradford. But I may be wrong, not many would have had us winning a few years ago or the Panthers in the SB last year either.

[JO_75]

6 hours ago, Cville-Raven said:

The value just isn't there for me. Bradford isn't worth a 1st plain and simple. 

Even Madden agrees...........

[RaineV1]

I just don't think they can carry Bradford to a Super Bowl, and anything less than that will be seen as a failure after this trade. The only way this makes any sense is if they don't know if Bridgewater can fully return from his injury.

[Purple Punishment]

I think this is an injury that Teddy will not come back from to play at the professional level. I think Minn needs a real insurance policy in case Teddys career is over. They did why they did, let's see how it pans out

[MTRavensFan]

20 minutes ago, Purple Punishment said:

I think this is an injury that Teddy will not come back from to play at the professional level. I think Minn needs a real insurance policy in case Teddys career is over. They did why they did, let's see how it pans out

I agree with your 100%. Teddy's career might not be over, but the Vikings have to prepare for that possibility. 

Absolutely heartbreaking,  by all accounts he is an exceptional young man, and very well-loved by his coaches and teammates. 

But, then again, people said the same about Pitta. We'll just have to wait and see.